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4/26/2025 9:33:25 PM EDT
Howdy guys. My eyes are too old for iron sights anymore and I have an old surplus German ZF4 that would work well on my 551. So, I just picked up a Manurhin produced pushbutton mount but it's missing the little riser blocks. You can still mount the scope so long as you set the diopter sight drum to "1" but you can't properly attach and detach the mount by using the pushbutton because you can't pivot the mount on and off the rifle. Instead, you have to screw the adjustment rod into the mount, place the mount on the rifle, and then unscrew the adjustment rod until it's properly tensioned. It works, but it really should have the riser blocks. There is a guy on GB selling riser blocks for the Jenny mount for $350 and they would work but that price is ridiculous. Besides, I only need the two of the simple rear risers, not the notched front one for the swing lever. If anybody knows where I can find a couple of the risers at a reasonable price, I'd appreciate it.





4/27/2025 8:20:53 AM EDT
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He also has these, which are less costly and look to be exactly what you need:

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1089101817

Zombiesniper is great, I’ve had a number of dealings with him. He is your only option that I know of to find these stateside.
4/27/2025 11:13:12 PM EDT
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He also has these, which are less costly and look to be exactly what you need:

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1089101817

Zombiesniper is great, I’ve had a number of dealings with him. He is your only option that I know of to find these stateside.
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I got 'em.  Thank you a bunch!
4/28/2025 7:26:14 AM EDT
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That is where I got mine. You will likely need longer screws though to attach your scope to the mount. I had no problem finding these at Lowes. The Manurhin mount is great.
4/28/2025 4:48:08 PM EDT
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Thanks for the help guys.  The seller actually hand delivered the blocks to me today.  Zombiesniper is a FANTASTIC guy to deal with!
4/28/2025 7:21:55 PM EDT
[#5]
Nice!  He's a good dude...I've met up with him in person as well but he was buying stuff from me
4/29/2025 12:36:43 AM EDT
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Honestly if eyesight is an issue and you want better performance, you'd be better off just getting a B&T picatinny adapter and using a modern optic. Those STANAG scopes suck, and I say that as someone who owns a few and uses them on retro HK/FAL setups.

I toyed with the idea of using some of my spare Hensoldts on a 551, but seeing what was involved in this thread, I decided that was a no-go.
4/29/2025 1:03:02 AM EDT
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Honestly if eyesight is an issue and you want better performance, you'd be better off just getting a B&T picatinny adapter and using a modern optic. Those STANAG scopes suck, and I say that as someone who owns a few and uses them on retro HK/FAL setups.

I toyed with the idea of using some of my spare Hensoldts on a 551, but seeing what was involved in this thread, I decided that was a no-go.
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Oh, I love the old 4x STANAG scopes.  I like all that old, obsolete stuff.  I have a Hensoldt Model 1 and a Z24.  I also have old night vision scopes I play around with. I'm just a plinker having fun.  Just a few weeks ago, I had my CETME LVS out and I was getting consistent hits on an 8" steel plate at 400 yards and a fair amount of hits at 500 yards using plain ol' 55GR PPU.  


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I also have a bunch of other obsolete stuff like early postwar ZF4's held to the mounts with bands and old Soviet and Warsaw pact scopes both regular and NV.  If it's obsolete and cold war, I just LOVE it!


This one mashes me in the nose a lot though, so it doesn't go out much in this configuration anymore.  

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4/29/2025 3:26:49 AM EDT
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I have one with extra risers and STANAG 30mm A.R.M.S. rings if anyone is interested.
4/29/2025 1:48:32 PM EDT
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Oh, I love the old 4x STANAG scopes.  I like all that old, obsolete stuff.  I have a Hensoldt Model 1 and a Z24.  I also have old night vision scopes I play around with. I'm just a plinker having fun.  Just a few weeks ago, I had my CETME LVS out and I was getting consistent hits on an 8" steel plate at 400 yards and a fair amount of hits at 500 yards using plain ol' 55GR PPU.  


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I also have a bunch of other obsolete stuff like early postwar ZF4's held to the mounts with bands and old Soviet and Warsaw pact scopes both regular and NV.  If it's obsolete and cold war, I just LOVE it!


This one mashes me in the nose a lot though, so it doesn't go out much in this configuration anymore.  

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Honestly if eyesight is an issue and you want better performance, you'd be better off just getting a B&T picatinny adapter and using a modern optic. Those STANAG scopes suck, and I say that as someone who owns a few and uses them on retro HK/FAL setups.

I toyed with the idea of using some of my spare Hensoldts on a 551, but seeing what was involved in this thread, I decided that was a no-go.



Oh, I love the old 4x STANAG scopes.  I like all that old, obsolete stuff.  I have a Hensoldt Model 1 and a Z24.  I also have old night vision scopes I play around with. I'm just a plinker having fun.  Just a few weeks ago, I had my CETME LVS out and I was getting consistent hits on an 8" steel plate at 400 yards and a fair amount of hits at 500 yards using plain ol' 55GR PPU.  


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I also have a bunch of other obsolete stuff like early postwar ZF4's held to the mounts with bands and old Soviet and Warsaw pact scopes both regular and NV.  If it's obsolete and cold war, I just LOVE it!


This one mashes me in the nose a lot though, so it doesn't go out much in this configuration anymore.  

https://hosting.photobucket.com/87d40331-3ae3-48f6-9f75-9eb76043cf56/a120f083-f56c-41ac-8183-2d6723d0ac68.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/87d40331-3ae3-48f6-9f75-9eb76043cf56/a120f083-f56c-41ac-8183-2d6723d0ac68.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds

My main issue is these scopes are fragile (have owned a number that got busted up pretty bad), and zeroing/adjustments are not as convenient vs modern optics, especially since gen 1-2 lack tactile clicks. Also the reticle does not lend itself well for precision. Mounts for anything other than a HK/FAL don’t let you see irons through the mount.

That said I’ll use them if I can get them cheap enough and mounting options aren’t inconvenient.

4/29/2025 5:56:59 PM EDT
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My main issue is these scopes are fragile (have owned a number that got busted up pretty bad), and zeroing/adjustments are not as convenient vs modern optics, especially since gen 1-2 lack tactile clicks. Also the reticle does not lend itself well for precision. Mounts for anything other than a HK/FAL don’t let you see irons through the mount.

That said I’ll use them if I can get them cheap enough and mounting options aren’t inconvenient.

https://i.imgur.com/cbCVVrO.jpeg
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Lots and lots of goodness in that picture buddy!

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