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9/4/2024 12:10:05 PM EDT
So I have a SCAR 17S, and I want a scope that can handle the notorious recoil without falling apart.

Let's call it a strict budget of $1600 with shipping and tax. Need at least 4x magnification, but up to 8x might be nice. Prefer 1x on the low-end if possible.

Trijicon Credo 1-8 x34 FFP - $1350 at Optics Planet

Leupold Mark 4HD 1-4.5x24 (30mm)  $999

Vortex Razor HD Gen II-E 1-6x24mm 30mm Tube $1425 at OP

Nightforce NX8 1-8x24mm F1 - ZeroStop   $1750 (out of price range)

Something that can take a beating and maybe has a good warranty in case the SCAR eats it up.
Proud millennial.
9/4/2024 1:07:18 PM EDT
[#1]
i have a nightforce nx8 on mine and while people online may complain about the eye box I actually like mine.  it suits me well.  To be fair they are going well with in your budget over on the EE.  I've had a gen 3 razor as well and i loved that, but it wasn't on any of my scars but wouldn't hesitate to put a gen 2 on them either.  seriously consider the ee especially as they have no bs warranties from the manufactures
9/4/2024 3:34:55 PM EDT
[#2]
Mount it as far back as you can - less shock I was told to the scope.
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9/4/2024 4:03:56 PM EDT
[#3]
If you want the most durable, and best warranty you are getting the vortex.
9/4/2024 4:50:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JohnGA:
Mount it as far back as you can - less shock I was told to the scope.
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I hear too that putting the optic in a good 1 piece mount solves a ton of issues. Rumor i heard is that most of the optic issues were from mil units using standard (2) scope rings further forward on the rail as you said. The monolithic rail would flex forward of the chamber where the front ring was located, and basically bend the scope.

I have a vortex pst gen2 on mine in an ADM 1 piece mount, so far so good. But vortex just in case.
9/4/2024 5:23:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JohnGA][Edited] [#5]
I run a 34mm Midwest Indistries 1-piece on mine. Locks from the right side so your fingers clear it when charging.
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Your life is an occasion, rise to it
In time we will be dancing in the streets all night.
9/4/2024 6:59:13 PM EDT
[#6]
From what I've gathered, the real important factor is a good mount.
ADM makes a good SCAR specific mount.
9/4/2024 11:20:21 PM EDT
[#7]
TA11 (not really within your specs) or NX8 1-8X (used market puts it into your budget). You could also make an offer to Europtic and see if they bite.

As others have mentioned, you’re going to want a robust mount torqued to spec.
You see that head come apart?
9/5/2024 12:31:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Zeebz][Edited] [#8]
I had a Credo 1-8 on mine for a bit, then ran a TA11 on it also like Ruin mentioned.  Both were good options, especially the TA11 if you want to keep weight down.

I prefer LPVOs myself, as well as tree reticles (personal preference) so I'd go with the NX8, Credo 1-10, or EOTECH Vudu 1-10.

I haven't owned an NX8 but my Uncle has one on an AR-10 that is really nice.  Credo 1-10 adds a bit more range and a tree reticle, and I had the EOTECH Vudu 1-10 on my Tavor 7 and that was probably my favorite of the sub-$1,600 LPVOs.
9/5/2024 9:03:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: djkest][Edited] [#9]
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Originally Posted By Zeebz:
I had a Credo 1-8 on mine for a bit, then ran a TA11 on it also like Ruin mentioned.  Both were good options, especially the TA11 if you want to keep weight down.

I prefer LPVOs myself, as well as tree reticles (personal preference) so I'd go with the NX8, Credo 1-10, or EOTECH Vudu 1-10.

I haven't owned an NX8 but my Uncle has one on an AR-10 that is really nice.  Credo 1-10 adds a bit more range and a tree reticle, and I had the EOTECH Vudu 1-10 on my Tavor 7 and that was probably my favorite of the sub-$1,600 LPVOs.
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Creedo 1-10 looks really nice. I didn't realize at first how saturated the market is with LPVO options now.

ETA: I can get it for $1300 with the veteran / military discount! It looks like a strong contender.
Proud millennial.
9/5/2024 9:09:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By djkest:


Creedo 1-10 looks really nice. I didn't realize at first how saturated the market is with LPVO options now.

ETA: I can get it for $1300 with the veteran / military discount! It looks like a strong contender.
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Where is this retailer at?
9/5/2024 9:24:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: djkest][Edited] [#11]
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Originally Posted By balthezor:


Where is this retailer at?
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Trijicon.com

You have to also register on Expert Voice which is one of those veteran-confirming things. It was pretty painless.

https://www.trijicon.com/support/military-law-enforcement-government-programs

https://www.expertvoice.com/brand/trijicon?utm_source=trijicon.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=landing_page
Proud millennial.
9/6/2024 12:48:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Mblades][Edited] [#12]
No reason to over think this, any of those would be fine, just buy a decent mount or rings, torque to spec and there’s a 99.99% chance everything will be fine.
9/10/2024 12:29:25 PM EDT
[#13]
On my 17S I have a Reptilia AUS 34mm mount with Razor 1-10x and Steiner MPS top mounted.
9/11/2024 8:32:46 AM EDT
[#14]
Another vote for the NX8, I really like it…plenty of optic for 5-600 yards and in.

You can find them on the used market for considerably less than new….i think I’ve seen some black models for $12-1300.

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9/11/2024 10:31:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: djkest][Edited] [#15]
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Originally Posted By Airborne11B:
Another vote for the NX8, I really like it…plenty of optic for 5-600 yards and in.

You can find them on the used market for considerably less than new….i think I’ve seen some black models for $12-1300.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102803/IMG_5709_jpeg-3319164.JPG
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I'll admit that does look very sexy. I have seen some NX8s in the EE for around $1300 ish.
What is the height on the Nightforce mount?
Proud millennial.
9/11/2024 10:47:04 AM EDT
[#16]
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9/11/2024 11:45:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By djkest:

I'll admit that does look very sexy. I have seen some NX8s in the EE for around $1300 ish.
What is the height on the Nightforce mount?
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Originally Posted By djkest:
Originally Posted By Airborne11B:
Another vote for the NX8, I really like it…plenty of optic for 5-600 yards and in.

You can find them on the used market for considerably less than new….i think I’ve seen some black models for $12-1300.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102803/IMG_5709_jpeg-3319164.JPG

I'll admit that does look very sexy. I have seen some NX8s in the EE for around $1300 ish.
What is the height on the Nightforce mount?


Just make sure it has the FC-DMx reticle, it’s far superior to the original FC-Mil. I had one of the capped turret models with the old reticle and it was a poor match.

Euro optic has a “demo” for $1550 HERE the better reticle and cool guy FDE finish would be worth an extra $250 to me.
9/11/2024 12:17:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By djkest:

I'll admit that does look very sexy. I have seen some NX8s in the EE for around $1300 ish.
What is the height on the Nightforce mount?
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It’s a 1.54 height mount.

Also agree on getting the Fc-DMX reticle and not the FC-Mil….its a much better reticle.
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9/11/2024 4:32:49 PM EDT
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Dinner looks good, potato quality camera/lighting, unknown optic.
Proud millennial.
9/11/2024 5:24:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Airborne11B][Edited] [#20]
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Dinner looks good, potato quality camera/lighting, unknown optic.
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Looks like a newer gen Elcan SpecterDR 1-6.
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9/12/2024 1:50:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: djkest][Edited] [#21]
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Originally Posted By Airborne11B:

It’s a 1.54 height mount.

Also agree on getting the Fc-DMX reticle and not the FC-Mil….its a much better reticle.
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Okay, so I was looking on Expert Voice and I can also get a discount from Nightforce as well.

NX8 - 1-8x24mm F1 - Capped E/W - .2 Mil-Radian - PTL - FC-DMx

Is that what I want?

$1225 with the discount for the black one, or $1295 for FDE

They also have Nightforce Ultramounts at a decent price ($228)

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(sorry I'm kind of a noob when it comes to scope stuff)
I appreciate all the awesome help I get on the tech forums.
Proud millennial.
9/12/2024 2:26:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By djkest:


Okay, so I was looking on Expert Voice and I can also get a discount from Nightforce as well.

NX8 - 1-8x24mm F1 - Capped E/W - .2 Mil-Radian - PTL - FC-DMx

Is that what I want?

$1225 with the discount for the black one, or $1295 for FDE

They also have Nightforce Ultramounts at a decent price ($228)

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144375/Nightforce_1_png-3320332.JPG

(sorry I'm kind of a noob when it comes to scope stuff)
I appreciate all the awesome help I get on the tech forums.
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Yessir, that’s what you want - that’s exactly what’s on mine in FDE. The only thing that sucks is the good scope caps cost extra…it comes garbage bikini covers standard.

Most LPVOs are generally capped turrets since you’re not really gonna be dialing elevation on a 1-8 optic, you’d just use hold overs.

Awesome optic and I think you’ll really like it. Makes the 17 a really handy rifle out to decent distances.
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9/13/2024 12:21:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By djkest:


Okay, so I was looking on Expert Voice and I can also get a discount from Nightforce as well.

NX8 - 1-8x24mm F1 - Capped E/W - .2 Mil-Radian - PTL - FC-DMx

Is that what I want?

$1225 with the discount for the black one, or $1295 for FDE

They also have Nightforce Ultramounts at a decent price ($228)

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144375/Nightforce_1_png-3320332.JPG

(sorry I'm kind of a noob when it comes to scope stuff)
I appreciate all the awesome help I get on the tech forums.
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Originally Posted By djkest:
Originally Posted By Airborne11B:

It’s a 1.54 height mount.

Also agree on getting the Fc-DMX reticle and not the FC-Mil….its a much better reticle.


Okay, so I was looking on Expert Voice and I can also get a discount from Nightforce as well.

NX8 - 1-8x24mm F1 - Capped E/W - .2 Mil-Radian - PTL - FC-DMx

Is that what I want?

$1225 with the discount for the black one, or $1295 for FDE

They also have Nightforce Ultramounts at a decent price ($228)

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144375/Nightforce_1_png-3320332.JPG

(sorry I'm kind of a noob when it comes to scope stuff)
I appreciate all the awesome help I get on the tech forums.


That’s a great price for a great scope, I’d get that if I were you.
9/14/2024 12:07:58 AM EDT
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That’s a great price for a great scope, I’d get that if I were you.
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I did! I ordered the Nightforce NX8 and the Nightforce mount. I've always wanted something Nightforce, now I just have to figure out how to hide it from my wife when it arrives!
Proud millennial.
9/14/2024 2:08:18 AM EDT
[#26]
Eventually I think I’ll move to the Nightforce but my SCAR has had a TA11 for years and it’s worked pretty well for me.  Not as many really long ranges around here.
9/26/2024 1:04:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Airborne11B:
Another vote for the NX8, I really like it…plenty of optic for 5-600 yards and in.

You can find them on the used market for considerably less than new….i think I’ve seen some black models for $12-1300.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102803/IMG_5709_jpeg-3319164.JPG
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I used your picture as a guide for mounting the scope mount/scope to the SCAR and the eye relief is about perfect. Thanks for posting. I'll post some pics soon.

Funny how a 16" barrel feels a bit too long now.
Proud millennial.
9/26/2024 2:30:28 AM EDT
[#28]
I vote NF.

My 17 ate a vortex.  But to their credit, they did fix it better than new.

Eurooptics often has new “demo” models at a deep discount.

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