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Posted: 7/26/2023 12:56:42 PM EDT
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Is anyone knowledgeable on these actions and rifles? Are there different size actions? Are there pressure limits based on cartridge head size? Like with an tc encore? Are there good or bad years to look for or avoid? Thanks for your time guys. |
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Super cool Ruger No. 1 They come in various sizes. I've had several and still own two. Both really good shooters and very good looking rifles. I would not load past normal pressure. The falling block design is solid, however, I would be nervous going over book loads. |
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| I wasnt referring to loading over book. The reference or question refers to "bolt thrust" on the locking block based on cartridge head size. an example being a large case head like a .450 bushmaster is limited to 38k psi in the AR vs a 5.56 can run at 62k psi. If I rebarrel a No. 1 to a larger case head size cartridge am I limited on operating pressure? |
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Originally Posted By SSTPAC: I wasnt referring to loading over book. The reference or question refers to "bolt thrust" on the locking block based on cartridge head size. an example being a large case head like a .450 bushmaster is limited to 38k psi in the AR vs a 5.56 can run at 62k psi. If I rebarrel a No. 1 to a larger case head size cartridge am I limited on operating pressure? No. The No.1 is one of the strongest actions out there. There are 3 levels for loading the No. 1 in 45-70. Trapdoor level loads, Marlin 1895 level loads and then there are the No.1 level loads. With good components and careful loading you can get the 45-70 up near 458 Winchester loads in the No. 1. I've been selling some off but I've had at one point most if not all of the No. 1H versions. Plus the No.1S in 45-70. 404 Jeffery, 375 H&H, 405 Win, 450-400 NE, 416 Ruger, 416 Rem Mag, 416 Rigby, 458 Win Mag, 458 Lott. I think the Jeffery was the rarest one. |
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Originally Posted By SSTPAC: Is anyone knowledgeable on these actions and rifles? Are there different size actions? Are there pressure limits based on cartridge head size? Like with an tc encore? Are there good or bad years to look for or avoid? Thanks for your time guys. All of the Ruger No. 1 and also No. 3 actions are the same size. Some have even taken the No. 3s and put the nicer No. 1 furniture on them to make them a "No. 2" type. I think it would have been neat if Ruger had made a smaller mini-action for some of the pistol cartridges. A No. 1 will hold any reasonable load. As already posted the No. 1 action is very strong, and "Ruger only 45-70 loads" are approaching 458 WinMag territory. It has been chambered in some of Weatherby's cartridges. It is a strong action. I am only aware of the older "red pad" (older Rugers had red recoil pads) guns being better due to having nicer figured wood on them. I don't know of any bad No. 1 years. But like all things manufactured, some are better than others. Some of the post-Ruger family owned guns (after Bill Sr. and Jr. passed away) *might* not be as good, but I don't know that to be fact. |
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Agree with the others. The No. 1 is one of the strongest modern firearm actions there is. As others have said you can get 45-70 loads that are No. 1 only that I don't think are even safe in a bolt action rifle, but are safe in the No. 1. The No. 1 will handle everything all the way up to the uber powerful shoulder fired howitzer rounds like 460 Weatherby and 700 Nitro Express. A while back I read something, and can't remember for sure what the claim was - but it was either the Ruger engineers were trying like hell and couldn't get one to kaboom, or they did kaboom one but it took an absolutely insane overpressure charge. |
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Lipseys has a 275 Rigby (7x57) in their custom list. Problem is msrp is 3 guns in that #1 ruger.  Having never owned a Ruger #1, and hearing the ol 2 out of 5 are junk, I am hesitant to purchase one for that sort of cash. |
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Originally Posted By Mobjack: All of the Ruger No. 1 and also No. 3 actions are the same size. Some have even taken the No. 3s and put the nicer No. 1 furniture on them to make them a "No. 2" type. I think it would have been neat if Ruger had made a smaller mini-action... You don't say...   |
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Originally Posted By GunCat: You don't say... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/31644/ruger3a-3031304.jpg That does have a Winchester 85 vibe to it. I like it.
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