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Posted: 4/7/2025 6:16:52 PM EDT
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Yes I read the instructions. However my question is, what is the BEST way to apply the Rapco. What I mean is I have an AR I rattle canned lightly with Rustoleum. Is it better to strip that paint off and start fresh? Or will the Rapco be good to go right over what’s there? Any insight is welcome. Attached File Attached File |
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I used a case of Rapco rattle cans to paint my '51 Willys. I would roughen up the finish that is on there but if it well adhered I think it will be fine. My biggest piece of advice is to shake the stink out of those cans. When the ball moves freely, shake it some more. The cans I used would clump badly if I didn't. |
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I'd scuff it up for sure or do the brake cleaner. I wish I'd done more coats on mine. I probably used 2 coats and I don't think it was enough as its wearing through in several areas. |
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Originally Posted By ChevChelios: @TGWLDR What’s your thoughts? You’re the reason I bought all these paints. LOL  ME? How'd that happen? I do not recall being any part of such matters.  Personally, I'd strip the Rustoleum first off. Then, wipe/spray it all down with acetone/Brake Kleen. Respray with the Rapco. |
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: ME? How'd that happen? I do not recall being any part of such matters. Personally, I'd strip the Rustoleum first off. Then, wipe/spray it all down with acetone/Brake Kleen. Respray with the Rapco. Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By ChevChelios: @TGWLDR What’s your thoughts? You’re the reason I bought all these paints. LOL ME? How'd that happen? I do not recall being any part of such matters. Personally, I'd strip the Rustoleum first off. Then, wipe/spray it all down with acetone/Brake Kleen. Respray with the Rapco. You gave another poster info on how to get his AR back to black. Which caused me to look up the paint. Once I found the paint, I got weak and spent $. Haha. Fun times. Now I have a couple of paint projects to work on. I’ll need some more stripper and break cleaner. Thank you sir. I’ll post pics Edited for spelling/grammar |
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Originally Posted By ChevChelios: You gave another poster info on how to get his AR back to black. Which caused me to look up the paint. Once I found the paint, I got weak and spent $. Haha. Fun times. Now I have a couple of paint projects to work on. I’ll need some more stripper and break cleaner. Thank you sir. I’ll post pics Edited for spelling/grammar Originally Posted By ChevChelios: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By ChevChelios: @TGWLDR What’s your thoughts? You’re the reason I bought all these paints. LOL ME? How'd that happen? I do not recall being any part of such matters. Personally, I'd strip the Rustoleum first off. Then, wipe/spray it all down with acetone/Brake Kleen. Respray with the Rapco. You gave another poster info on how to get his AR back to black. Which caused me to look up the paint. Once I found the paint, I got weak and spent $. Haha. Fun times. Now I have a couple of paint projects to work on. I’ll need some more stripper and break cleaner. Thank you sir. I’ll post pics Edited for spelling/grammar Tracking now.  Post pics once done. Show off your artwork. 
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Tracking now. Post pics once done. Show off your artwork. Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By ChevChelios: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By ChevChelios: @TGWLDR What’s your thoughts? You’re the reason I bought all these paints. LOL ME? How'd that happen? I do not recall being any part of such matters. Personally, I'd strip the Rustoleum first off. Then, wipe/spray it all down with acetone/Brake Kleen. Respray with the Rapco. You gave another poster info on how to get his AR back to black. Which caused me to look up the paint. Once I found the paint, I got weak and spent $. Haha. Fun times. Now I have a couple of paint projects to work on. I’ll need some more stripper and break cleaner. Thank you sir. I’ll post pics Edited for spelling/grammar Tracking now. Post pics once done. Show off your artwork. Plus one and I was the guy asking about the paint to bring my M4 back to black. I ended up using just a satin black, but that gun is now going to go into a bit of a change to a semi clone Gordon build with the M4 suppressor. In which case I will probably order some of Rapco for that. So I guess thanks to the both of you! |
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Originally Posted By JimmyAR: Plus one and I was the guy asking about the paint to bring my M4 back to black. I ended up using just a satin black, but that gun is now going to go into a bit of a change to a semi clone Gordon build with the M4 suppressor. In which case I will probably order some of Rapco for that. So I guess thanks to the both of you! Originally Posted By JimmyAR: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By ChevChelios: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By ChevChelios: @TGWLDR What’s your thoughts? You’re the reason I bought all these paints. LOL ME? How'd that happen? I do not recall being any part of such matters. Personally, I'd strip the Rustoleum first off. Then, wipe/spray it all down with acetone/Brake Kleen. Respray with the Rapco. You gave another poster info on how to get his AR back to black. Which caused me to look up the paint. Once I found the paint, I got weak and spent $. Haha. Fun times. Now I have a couple of paint projects to work on. I’ll need some more stripper and break cleaner. Thank you sir. I’ll post pics Edited for spelling/grammar Tracking now. Post pics once done. Show off your artwork. Plus one and I was the guy asking about the paint to bring my M4 back to black. I ended up using just a satin black, but that gun is now going to go into a bit of a change to a semi clone Gordon build with the M4 suppressor. In which case I will probably order some of Rapco for that. So I guess thanks to the both of you! Please tag me if you decide to post pics. I want to see. I like the Gordon builds. |
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Originally Posted By ChevChelios: Please tag me if you decide to post pics. I want to see. I like the Gordon builds. Originally Posted By ChevChelios: Originally Posted By JimmyAR: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By ChevChelios: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By ChevChelios: @TGWLDR What’s your thoughts? You’re the reason I bought all these paints. LOL ME? How'd that happen? I do not recall being any part of such matters. Personally, I'd strip the Rustoleum first off. Then, wipe/spray it all down with acetone/Brake Kleen. Respray with the Rapco. You gave another poster info on how to get his AR back to black. Which caused me to look up the paint. Once I found the paint, I got weak and spent $. Haha. Fun times. Now I have a couple of paint projects to work on. I’ll need some more stripper and break cleaner. Thank you sir. I’ll post pics Edited for spelling/grammar Tracking now. Post pics once done. Show off your artwork. Plus one and I was the guy asking about the paint to bring my M4 back to black. I ended up using just a satin black, but that gun is now going to go into a bit of a change to a semi clone Gordon build with the M4 suppressor. In which case I will probably order some of Rapco for that. So I guess thanks to the both of you! Please tag me if you decide to post pics. I want to see. I like the Gordon builds. Will do, waiting on stocking for the M4 suppressor, I found a FDE one from Baur precision might just pull the trigger on that one. Plan on painting everything anyway. |
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Originally Posted By JimmyAR: Plus one and I was the guy asking about the paint to bring my M4 back to black. I ended up using just a satin black, but that gun is now going to go into a bit of a change to a semi clone Gordon build with the M4 suppressor. In which case I will probably order some of Rapco for that. So I guess thanks to the both of you! Pic? Does it damn near glow? Shiny? What paint? |
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| Strip it. Rustoleum isn’t stable even with most lubricants. Rapco is made to be stable with a large number of solvents that turn other spray paints into cancer paste. Doesn’t have to be perfect but no sense in leaving an inferior base coat. |
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There's a thread running on Reddit currently, "Rapco spray paint megathread" (or something shit)....it's got decent pics of real world color comparisons for those interested. Now that Aerovoe has dumped their military camo spray line, Radco is really gaining popularity. |
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Strip it. Rustoleum isn’t stable even with most lubricants. Rapco is made to be stable with a large number of solvents that turn other spray paints into cancer paste. Doesn’t have to be perfect but no sense in leaving an inferior base coat. How crazy we talking in stripping? I’ll see if I can post some pics of where I’m at now. This cancer plaster you speak of, is that just where the two paints mixed and it just stays like wet glue? |
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: There's a thread running on Reddit currently, "Rapco spray paint megathread" (or something shit)....it's got decent pics of real world color comparisons for those interested. Now that Aerovoe has dumped their military camo spray line, Radco is really gaining popularity. With it gaining popularity, it’s the reason I started stocking up on colors. I am that dude in the “rattle can” meme with like 87 shades of green, grey, and FDE. |
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I got about 90-95% of the rustoleum off the rifle. Might try and get more paint off tonight Attached File |
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Originally Posted By ChevChelios: I got about 90-95% of the rustoleum off the rifle. Might try and get more paint off tonight https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/304835/IMG_0177_jpeg-3512080.JPG Depends on how particular you are. Mine have a good amount of texture from multiple coats.
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Originally Posted By ChevChelios: @TGWLDR I’m not too concerned about it being perfect. It’ll get used. I just don’t want a handful of cancer plaste while I’m shooting. Almost any paint is hazardous, mix it with solvents and the degree of hazard climbs. None of this hobby is hazard free. Burning powder/gases/solvents/etc. Personally, I don't coat grips/stocks. Both because the feel weirds me out and the repeated skin exposure is bad ju ju. |
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Pic? Does it damn near glow? Shiny? What paint? Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By JimmyAR: Plus one and I was the guy asking about the paint to bring my M4 back to black. I ended up using just a satin black, but that gun is now going to go into a bit of a change to a semi clone Gordon build with the M4 suppressor. In which case I will probably order some of Rapco for that. So I guess thanks to the both of you! Pic? Does it damn near glow? Shiny? What paint? I used what I had on the shelf, Krylon fusion satin black. Came out ok, not overly shiny, knocked it down with a little steel wool. Flash hider was pinned by whoever I bought the upper from took about 20 seconds to get it off.  " /> |
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Originally Posted By JimmyAR: I used what I had on the shelf, Krylon fusion satin black. Came out ok, not overly shiny, knocked it down with a little steel wool. Flash hider was pinned by whoever I bought the upper from took about 20 seconds to get it off. http://i.imgur.com/WAMHu22.jpg" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/WAMHu22.jpg A friend of mine used satin black Krylon on his carbine. 3 heavy coats in pretty rapid succession. The thing is glossy as hell. |
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Originally Posted By JimmyAR: I used what I had on the shelf, Krylon fusion satin black. Came out ok, not overly shiny, knocked it down with a little steel wool. Flash hider was pinned by whoever I bought the upper from took about 20 seconds to get it off. http://i.imgur.com/WAMHu22.jpg" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/WAMHu22.jpg Originally Posted By JimmyAR: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By JimmyAR: Plus one and I was the guy asking about the paint to bring my M4 back to black. I ended up using just a satin black, but that gun is now going to go into a bit of a change to a semi clone Gordon build with the M4 suppressor. In which case I will probably order some of Rapco for that. So I guess thanks to the both of you! Pic? Does it damn near glow? Shiny? What paint? I used what I had on the shelf, Krylon fusion satin black. Came out ok, not overly shiny, knocked it down with a little steel wool. Flash hider was pinned by whoever I bought the upper from took about 20 seconds to get it off. http://i.imgur.com/WAMHu22.jpg" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/WAMHu22.jpg You could also buy Flat clear coat. That seems to tone the sheen down some as well. Krylon and Rustoleum both with add shine the more coats you add. |
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Originally Posted By JimmyAR: I used what I had on the shelf, Krylon fusion satin black. Came out ok, not overly shiny, knocked it down with a little steel wool. Flash hider was pinned by whoever I bought the upper from took about 20 seconds to get it off. http://i.imgur.com/WAMHu22.jpg" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/WAMHu22.jpg Originally Posted By JimmyAR: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By JimmyAR: Plus one and I was the guy asking about the paint to bring my M4 back to black. I ended up using just a satin black, but that gun is now going to go into a bit of a change to a semi clone Gordon build with the M4 suppressor. In which case I will probably order some of Rapco for that. So I guess thanks to the both of you! Pic? Does it damn near glow? Shiny? What paint? I used what I had on the shelf, Krylon fusion satin black. Came out ok, not overly shiny, knocked it down with a little steel wool. Flash hider was pinned by whoever I bought the upper from took about 20 seconds to get it off. http://i.imgur.com/WAMHu22.jpg" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/WAMHu22.jpg You could also buy Flat clear coat. That seems to tone the sheen down some as well. Krylon and Rustoleum both with add shine the more coats you add. |
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Originally Posted By ChevChelios: You could also buy Flat clear coat. That seems to tone the sheen down some as well. Krylon and Rustoleum both with add shine the more coats you add. Once I get the M4 suppressor, I will most likely change it either way. Just not sure which way yet, thinking the olive drab with some black and tan. |
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Originally Posted By JimmyAR: Once I get the M4 suppressor, I will most likely change it either way. Just not sure which way yet, thinking the olive drab with some black and tan. Originally Posted By JimmyAR: Originally Posted By ChevChelios: You could also buy Flat clear coat. That seems to tone the sheen down some as well. Krylon and Rustoleum both with add shine the more coats you add. Once I get the M4 suppressor, I will most likely change it either way. Just not sure which way yet, thinking the olive drab with some black and tan. OD, Tan and Black. A man of culture and class. I look forward to the finished product :) |
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Final stages of prep. I did one more paint strip and a heavy dose of brake clean. Followed with a heat gun. Will let dry over night. Tape up a few things, then paint. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By ChevChelios: Final stages of prep. I did one more paint strip and a heavy dose of brake clean. Followed with a heat gun. Will let dry over night. Tape up a few things, then paint. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/304835/IMG_0189_jpeg-3512512.JPG You're ready. Spray away. |
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Originally Posted By ChevChelios: Hoping to spray this weekend. The rains came today and maybe tomorrow. I got to see how the weather plays out. In the meantime- monochromatic or two colors? Can’t decide. Ive really wanted to do a monochromatic scheme. Any suggestions? I would (if you haven't already) look through the rattle can thread above, see what you like. |
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Originally Posted By ChevChelios: How crazy we talking in stripping? I’ll see if I can post some pics of where I’m at now. This cancer plaster you speak of, is that just where the two paints mixed and it just stays like wet glue? Some paints don’t mix well, finish wise. Especially if they’re lower quality paints that can soak up oil and solvent. Chemically no worries, but a few blasts of citristrip and a toothbrush is pretty quick. Doesn’t have to be perfect. The paste comment was in regards to oil and solvent unstable paints. I had a Rustoleum painted pistol grip years ago that left my hand brown after I got CLP on it. Even after Acetone my hand was dyed for a little bit. Probably not good for the skin but having brown streaks on my hand was definitely bad for my pride. |
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Originally Posted By ChevChelios: Hoping to spray this weekend. The rains came today and maybe tomorrow. I got to see how the weather plays out. In the meantime- monochromatic or two colors? Can’t decide. Ive really wanted to do a monochromatic scheme. Any suggestions? Your first post shows my 3 favorite colors of paint. I would say use all 3. Monochromatic I would say the field drab or the khaki od green. I would be tempted to be bold and do solid earth yellow. I recently discovered panther city tactical and they sell Rapco paint. Shipping is almost half the price of Rapco parts. I’ll be ordering some paint soon. I’ll probably repaint my new 12.5 build with an earth yellow base to start with and go from there. |
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Right now I did a base coat of Rapco 30118 Camouflage Field Drab Brown. I painted the mag Rapco 34087 Lusterless “Khaki” Olive Drab. Of course I like this color better, and it seems to match my area a bit better than the 30118. I’m going to let the rifle and mag dry over night and probably add shades of 34087 over the base coat. As for my third color….im doing my Troy build in that yellow. I’ll post pics of that as well. Cheers. I’ll update as I go. |
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Originally Posted By ChevChelios: Right now I did a base coat of Rapco 30118 Camouflage Field Drab Brown. I painted the mag Rapco 34087 Lusterless “Khaki” Olive Drab. Of course I like this color better, and it seems to match my area a bit better than the 30118. I’m going to let the rifle and mag dry over night and probably add shades of 34087 over the base coat. As for my third color….im doing my Troy build in that yellow. I’ll post pics of that as well. Cheers. I’ll update as I go. Very nice. Field drab is probably my favorite color. |
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Originally Posted By ChevChelios: Yes I read the instructions. However my question is, what is the BEST way to apply the Rapco. What I mean is I have an AR I rattle canned lightly with Rustoleum. Is it better to strip that paint off and start fresh? Or will the Rapco be good to go right over what’s there? Any insight is welcome. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/304835/IMG_0168_jpeg-3511022.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/304835/IMG_0252_jpeg-3520631.JPG That earth yellow is the ticket. That stock though… |
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