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Posted: 9/16/2023 1:41:12 PM EDT
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Yesterday I tried out some 124gr RMR Nukes in 9mm. I noticed that the base of the bullet is covered in copper. It had a neat effect with the sun behind me, where the bullet looked kind of like a tracer or a spark flying at the target. I wonder about the construction of the bullet, considering that there's copper at the base like I've seen with plated bullets. Are these plated, and if so, does that mean that they are bonded? Does anyone know how they perform in ballistic tests, through barriers and the denim test? |
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Nukes are a hollow point bullet so they do not have an open base as seen in full metal jacket bullets. Apparently, FMJ is what you are used to seeing. They are a quality bullet. Expansion and terminal ballistics are favorable and have been reported in other threads. Of course, like all hollow point designs, optimal performance is achieved at the proper velocities. Be sure you reload them with due consideration of that. |
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During load development, I was able to tailor my load to provide the speeds given below by RMR. Using the 115 gr NUKE, I was getting 1,090 fps at the muzzle and 1,050 fps at 25 yards using W231. This is from the RMR web site regarding the 9mm 124 gr NUKE. I took out some of the marketing stuff. - "... We pre-cut the lead core so that it will easily open upon impact... At 1100 FPS we’re getting about 14″ of penetration with a diameter of about .630″ in total expansion. At 1000 fps we are getting 16-17″ of penetration with a diameter of about .590″ in total expansion. ... We’ve been testing it for a while now and we’re pretty confident that it is THE bullet for short or long barreled self defense loads. ..." I would call that "reliable expansion" in gelatin, so I just replicated their velocities. 
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Originally Posted By Trollslayer: I am hopeful they will come out with 230 gr NUKE bullets for 45 ACP. This is what I'm hoping for myself. I emailed them a while back but can't remember if I herd from them. You'd think I would remember something like that but nope 
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Originally Posted By gman556: This is what I'm hoping for myself. I emailed them a while back but can't remember if I herd from them. You'd think I would remember something like that but nope Originally Posted By gman556: Originally Posted By Trollslayer: I am hopeful they will come out with 230 gr NUKE bullets for 45 ACP. This is what I'm hoping for myself. I emailed them a while back but can't remember if I herd from them. You'd think I would remember something like that but nope As of 7 weeks ago, the owner replied to a Facebook post saying they were working on .40 and .45 nukes. |
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Originally Posted By spyderboy03: As of 7 weeks ago, the owner replied to a Facebook post saying they were working on .40 and .45 nukes. Originally Posted By spyderboy03: Originally Posted By gman556: Originally Posted By Trollslayer: I am hopeful they will come out with 230 gr NUKE bullets for 45 ACP. This is what I'm hoping for myself. I emailed them a while back but can't remember if I herd from them. You'd think I would remember something like that but nope As of 7 weeks ago, the owner replied to a Facebook post saying they were working on .40 and .45 nukes. I just emailed them right after I posted while I was still thinking about it this time I'll post here, if I hear from them before this thread dies out. |
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Cool. Hopefully this doesn't die out! I'm currently working on a load for these with HS-6. I loaded up 10 rounds over 6.5gr at 1.06 oal and tested them. Either the lighting that day was messing with my chrono or it needed a fresh battery. 10 shots registered, but 4 were WAY off. If I eliminate those, the other 6 averaged 1,176 FPS from my CZ P-10C at about 15 feet from the muzzle. I think I'm going to dial it back a little to try to get to about 1,100 FPS. These will also be shot from a P-10F and Glock 43X. Hoping to average 1,050-1,150 FPS across the barrel lengths. I've got Sport Pistol and N320 I can try as well. |
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Originally Posted By gman556: This is what I'm hoping for myself. I emailed them a while back but can't remember if I herd from them. You'd think I would remember something like that but nope |
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Originally Posted By spyderboy03: Cool. Hopefully this doesn't die out! I'm currently working on a load for these with HS-6. I loaded up 10 rounds over 6.5gr at 1.06 oal and tested them. Either the lighting that day was messing with my chrono or it needed a fresh battery. 10 shots registered, but 4 were WAY off. If I eliminate those, the other 6 averaged 1,176 FPS from my CZ P-10C at about 15 feet from the muzzle. I think I'm going to dial it back a little to try to get to about 1,100 FPS. These will also be shot from a P-10F and Glock 43X. Hoping to average 1,050-1,150 FPS across the barrel lengths. I've got Sport Pistol and N320 I can try as well. Your worries are over, I just set the archive "toggle" to keep this thread out of the archives. Set your bookmark, or look in the back pages if thread slip's off the first page. |
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Originally Posted By dryflash3: Check your Spam folder. Originally Posted By dryflash3: Originally Posted By gman556: This is what I'm hoping for myself. I emailed them a while back but can't remember if I herd from them. You'd think I would remember something like that but nope Been checking it every hour I'm also asking them if they will ever have a 147gr 9mm nuke. |
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I've loaded mine to 1.06 OAL. The starting load with sport pistol is giving my +p velocity, which I believe is due to the short OAL. The reason I'm loading them short is a CZ. The reason I'm loading to +p velocity is that gets me 1050fps at 15 ft from a shield. Is there a concern with feeding reliability when going this short? |
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Originally Posted By snackle: I've loaded mine to 1.06 OAL. The starting load with sport pistol is giving my +p velocity, which I believe is due to the short OAL. The reason I'm loading them short is a CZ. The reason I'm loading to +p velocity is that gets me 1050fps at 15 ft from a shield. Is there a concern with feeding reliability when going this short? Cycle dummy rounds, to find out what works for you. Myself, I'm at 1.10, to allow trouble free chambering in my CZ 85. This length works fine in 2 other 9mm pistols, and several AR9's. |
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Originally Posted By snackle: I've loaded mine to 1.06 OAL. The starting load with sport pistol is giving my +p velocity, which I believe is due to the short OAL. The reason I'm loading them short is a CZ. The reason I'm loading to +p velocity is that gets me 1050fps at 15 ft from a shield. Is there a concern with feeding reliability when going this short? Details on this load? I mentioned I was using HS-6, but that was originally intended for pulled HST's. Now that I'm focused on nukes, I mostly have Sport Pistol and N320. I shot a lot of Sport Pistol at 3.9gr under a Berry's 124 round nose. Nice and light recoil but not sure what the velocity is. I was thinking about trying 4.2-4.3gr of SP under the Nuke. |
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Originally Posted By snackle: I've loaded mine to 1.06 OAL. Is there a concern with feeding reliability when going this short? Mine are loaded to a nominal 1.050". They worked first time and every time. There really and truly is only one way to know if your loads are reliable. You have to use them in your firearm, a LOT of them. Only then will you know whether they are reliable. The up side of that seemingly bad news is that you get to do a LOT of shooting! 
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Originally Posted By spyderboy03: Details on this load? I mentioned I was using HS-6, but that was originally intended for pulled HST's. Now that I'm focused on nukes, I mostly have Sport Pistol and N320. I shot a lot of Sport Pistol at 3.9gr under a Berry's 124 round nose. Nice and light recoil but not sure what the velocity is. I was thinking about trying 4.2-4.3gr of SP under the Nuke. That seems like a good starting point, depending on your OAL. Here's the data from Alliant that I referenced, which only gave me some idea since I am loading to a much shorter OAL:
So I loaded 4.4gr SP at 1.06, and here's what I got: Beretta 92x Performance: 1131fps @15ft, 100 degrees f Shield+: 1047fps @15ft, 100 degrees f So, in the Beretta, I'm over the 1100 fps that RMR has tested in gel, but the 92x performance has a 4.9 inch barrel, and I'm not going to carry it. The shield+ looks like it's about right. As an aside, I do like sport pistol, it seems to meter well on a 650, and is a lot cleaner than what I'm used to (titegroup). |
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Originally Posted By dryflash3: You need to make a couple of dummy rounds...Seated/crimped bullet in a sized case. No primer or powder. Cycle dummy rounds, to find out what works for you. Myself, I'm at 1.10, to allow trouble free chambering in my CZ 85. This length works fine in 2 other 9mm pistols, and several AR9's. I did, and 1.06 works in all my pistols. It barely passes a plunk and spin test in my CZ P10F. I'm thinking about just loading specific ammo for the CZ in the future. There's an enormous difference between the CZ and other pistols. The only other gun I have that is close is the PSA. Also the CZ and PSA have the least smooth feeding of my guns, but are still surprisingly reliable. Glock, Smith, and Beretta all have very smooth feeding and will accept much longer cartridges, and I consider them to be VERY reliable. |
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I finally got around to loading up some of my 124gr nukes. Speer nickel brass Win SPP 5.6gr BE86 1.075" OAL Tried them in my brand new P365 today. They shoot good. I transposed the load from my Gold Dot 124gr load, which is 1.125" OAL, that's the only difference. My pistol shooting is super rusty, as I haven't shot handguns in a couple/few years. I don't have chrono data yet. Will soon. This load with gold dots chronos out of my G17 around 1185fps. Target at 7 yards. Bottom group supported on my bag. 
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Originally Posted By snackle: I did, and 1.06 works in all my pistols. It barely passes a plunk and spin test in my CZ P10F. I'm thinking about just loading specific ammo for the CZ in the future. There's an enormous difference between the CZ and other pistols. The only other gun I have that is close is the PSA. Also the CZ and PSA have the least smooth feeding of my guns, but are still surprisingly reliable. Glock, Smith, and Beretta all have very smooth feeding and will accept much longer cartridges, and I consider them to be VERY reliable. My CZ Shadow 2 had an incredibly short leade. I sent the barrel to Patriot Defense and had the chamber lengthened so that I could load the same length for all my 9mm pistols. Quick turnaround and definitely worth the $60. Patriot Defense |
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Shot about 500 doing work ups and I settled on 5.7gr Winchester Autocomp under the 124gr Nuke loaded to 1.075” and averages about 1230fps from my G17s, Speer and Win cases show no difference. Work this data up of course if you choose to pursue it. |
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Will be chrono'ing these today. 124gr over 4.3/4.4gr Alliant Sport Pistol out of a CZ P-10C and P-10F SR (5.1" barrel) with comp. Aimed for 1.06" OAL, which was a touch long for a true free spinning plunk test, but I could make them spin and had zero issues getting them out. 1.058" was where they started freely spinning. These loaded at a range of 1.055" to 1.065". My beam scale balanced for a few in a row at 4.3gr. My electronic scale showed those as either 4.3 or 4.4. I randomly checked loads throughout on both and the electronic scale showed 4.4 every time, but the beam scale either balanced at 4.3 or was a pointer line high or so (not to the next dash on the left side).  |
Well, it was raining and snowing at the range. My Chrono worked for 2 x 5 shot rifle strings and went funky on shot 7 from the P-10F. Got it under cover and wiped things off, but couldn't get it to read another shot so I didn't get any data for my P-10C. My buddy gets his Garmin Monday, so we'll try again soon. Either way, I think this is a decent load and I'll be loading this until I run out of Sport Pistol. |
| Since they were designed to open up at a lower velocity, it would be interesting to shoot them through leather or denim material before catching the projectile in a water jug or ballistic gel... just to see how much depth of penetration is affected. |
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