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Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
So having that little bit under a hand guard is probably a bad idea? Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
How warm does the section of the can behind the muzzle get relative to the rest of the suppressor body? Have an idea for a build but am curious how much heat that area puts out. Too hot to handle So having that little bit under a hand guard is probably a bad idea? Define 'bad idea'. I have an AEM3 recessed under a URX4 for about 1.5" and after two mag dumps it makes the rail all the way up to the chamber VERY hot. So hot that you need gloves. I think it would be manageable in a carbine class so long as you're wearing gloves, and normal range shooting once every second without gloves. |
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Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Define 'bad idea'. I have an AEM3 recessed under a URX4 for about 1.5" and after two mag dumps it makes the rail all the way up to the chamber VERY hot. So hot that you need gloves. I think it would be manageable in a carbine class so long as you're wearing gloves, and normal range shooting once every second without gloves. Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
How warm does the section of the can behind the muzzle get relative to the rest of the suppressor body? Have an idea for a build but am curious how much heat that area puts out. Too hot to handle So having that little bit under a hand guard is probably a bad idea? Define 'bad idea'. I have an AEM3 recessed under a URX4 for about 1.5" and after two mag dumps it makes the rail all the way up to the chamber VERY hot. So hot that you need gloves. I think it would be manageable in a carbine class so long as you're wearing gloves, and normal range shooting once every second without gloves. Still trying to figure out how well the PRI carbon Fiber handguard will handle the heat. |
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Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
Still trying to figure out how well the PRI carbon Fiber handguard will handle the heat. Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
How warm does the section of the can behind the muzzle get relative to the rest of the suppressor body? Have an idea for a build but am curious how much heat that area puts out. Too hot to handle So having that little bit under a hand guard is probably a bad idea? Define 'bad idea'. I have an AEM3 recessed under a URX4 for about 1.5" and after two mag dumps it makes the rail all the way up to the chamber VERY hot. So hot that you need gloves. I think it would be manageable in a carbine class so long as you're wearing gloves, and normal range shooting once every second without gloves. Still trying to figure out how well the PRI carbon Fiber handguard will handle the heat. interesting you mention this. i want to build an 8" 300bo shooting only subs, with a 12" pri rail, and an omega or form 1 can (6-8") and wondered the same thing. |
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interesting you mention this. i want to build an 8" 300bo shooting only subs, with a 12" pri rail, and an omega or form 1 can (6-8") and wondered the same thing. So having that little bit under a hand guard is probably a bad idea? Define 'bad idea'. I have an AEM3 recessed under a URX4 for about 1.5" and after two mag dumps it makes the rail all the way up to the chamber VERY hot. So hot that you need gloves. I think it would be manageable in a carbine class so long as you're wearing gloves, and normal range shooting once every second without gloves. Still trying to figure out how well the PRI carbon Fiber handguard will handle the heat. interesting you mention this. i want to build an 8" 300bo shooting only subs, with a 12" pri rail, and an omega or form 1 can (6-8") and wondered the same thing. |
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Originally Posted By Edit: thats awesome. one more request. i want like 10 pictures of this setup before i blow my cash all over it. Originally Posted By Edit: [ It'll handle it just fine. I have an 8" barrel with the rifle length PRI tube (12") and use it with a 762SD. thats awesome. one more request. i want like 10 pictures of this setup before i blow my cash all over it. 14.5" on top. 8.2" barrel with 762SD on the bottom.   Assembled 8.2" w/can under tube.  |
| awesome. i see you took off the side rail panels too. was going to do that if i put together one as well. likely replace the top long rail with one of the small side rails just either a peq15 or irons. im feeling, slick tube + peq 15 c + either an rmr or other rds ONLY no irons. |
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Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r: So, would a m4 aem5 collar on a 14.5 barrel under a long KAC ras ff fit? ADCO's fitment guide says the shoulder of the collar is right at 12" but I'm not sure what collar that measurement is for No. The suppressor would have to be partially under the handguard for a 14.5" barrel and a rifle handguard. And the KAC RAS is too small to fit a can underneath. You would need a 16" barrel. Refer to the pics I posted of my 16" upper with Geissele handguard. It's a close fit. |
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Originally Posted By dangerdan:
http://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pages/US4907488-1.png http://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pages/US4907488-2.png That's really cool. Does anyone have a picture of a cut open Ops or AE can? |
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Originally Posted By m1garand30064:
That's really cool. Does anyone have a picture of a cut open Ops or AE can? Originally Posted By m1garand30064:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
http://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pages/US4907488-1.png http://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pages/US4907488-2.png That's really cool. Does anyone have a picture of a cut open Ops or AE can? Cool! A lot more inside that sleeve than meets the eye.. |
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Question for Ron Allen: I want a suppressor that I can use on multiple guns in .22 and .30cal, I've heard you can get the .22 cans drilled out for .30cal.... is this correct?
Option 1 would be an AEM4 drilled out for .30 which would be good because I could employ the 1 piece brake/mounts available from Spikes tactical on some of my harder to fit rifles and avoid barrel machining for collars. Option 2 would be an AEM5 drilled out for .30 which would be nice because I already have a MK12 and because its a little larger suppressor for taming the blast.... but it would be a pain in the ass to adapt a couple of my rifles for collars, is it possible to get a 1 piece brake and collar made for the AEM5? |
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Originally Posted By locobob68: Question for Ron Allen: I want a suppressor that I can use on multiple guns in .22 and .30cal, I've heard you can get the .22 cans drilled out for .30cal.... is this correct? Option 1 would be an AEM4 drilled out for .30 which would be good because I could employ the 1 piece brake/mounts available from Spikes tactical on some of my harder to fit rifles and avoid barrel machining for collars. Option 2 would be an AEM5 drilled out for .30 which would be nice because I already have a MK12 and because its a little larger suppressor for taming the blast.... but it would be a pain in the ass to adapt a couple of my rifles for collars, is it possible to get a 1 piece brake and collar made for the AEM5? You'd get a faster response by emailing him or calling him. He can make custom collars. |
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Originally Posted By locobob68:
Question for Ron Allen: I want a suppressor that I can use on multiple guns in .22 and .30cal, I've heard you can get the .22 cans drilled out for .30cal.... is this correct? Option 1 would be an AEM4 drilled out for .30 which would be good because I could employ the 1 piece brake/mounts available from Spikes tactical on some of my harder to fit rifles and avoid barrel machining for collars. Option 2 would be an AEM5 drilled out for .30 which would be nice because I already have a MK12 and because its a little larger suppressor for taming the blast.... but it would be a pain in the ass to adapt a couple of my rifles for collars, is it possible to get a 1 piece brake and collar made for the AEM5? Option 3 would be the .30 AEM5 that ADCO already sells 
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Originally Posted By locobob68:
Question for Ron Allen: I want a suppressor that I can use on multiple guns in .22 and .30cal, I've heard you can get the .22 cans drilled out for .30cal.... is this correct? Option 1 would be an AEM4 drilled out for .30 which would be good because I could employ the 1 piece brake/mounts available from Spikes tactical on some of my harder to fit rifles and avoid barrel machining for collars. Option 2 would be an AEM5 drilled out for .30 which would be nice because I already have a MK12 and because its a little larger suppressor for taming the blast.... but it would be a pain in the ass to adapt a couple of my rifles for collars, is it possible to get a 1 piece brake and collar made for the AEM5? https://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=2763 |
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Originally Posted By m1garand30064: https://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=2763 Originally Posted By m1garand30064: Originally Posted By locobob68: Question for Ron Allen: I want a suppressor that I can use on multiple guns in .22 and .30cal, I've heard you can get the .22 cans drilled out for .30cal.... is this correct? Option 1 would be an AEM4 drilled out for .30 which would be good because I could employ the 1 piece brake/mounts available from Spikes tactical on some of my harder to fit rifles and avoid barrel machining for collars. Option 2 would be an AEM5 drilled out for .30 which would be nice because I already have a MK12 and because its a little larger suppressor for taming the blast.... but it would be a pain in the ass to adapt a couple of my rifles for collars, is it possible to get a 1 piece brake and collar made for the AEM5? https://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=2763 FWIW - the AEM5 .30 is longer than the AEM5 .22. Sounds like he isn't wanting anything longer than 8-8.5" |
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Originally Posted By dangerdan:
FWIW - the AEM5 .30 is longer than the AEM5 .22. Sounds like he isn't wanting anything longer than 8-8.5" Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By m1garand30064:
Originally Posted By locobob68:
Question for Ron Allen: I want a suppressor that I can use on multiple guns in .22 and .30cal, I've heard you can get the .22 cans drilled out for .30cal.... is this correct? Option 1 would be an AEM4 drilled out for .30 which would be good because I could employ the 1 piece brake/mounts available from Spikes tactical on some of my harder to fit rifles and avoid barrel machining for collars. Option 2 would be an AEM5 drilled out for .30 which would be nice because I already have a MK12 and because its a little larger suppressor for taming the blast.... but it would be a pain in the ass to adapt a couple of my rifles for collars, is it possible to get a 1 piece brake and collar made for the AEM5? https://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=2763 FWIW - the AEM5 .30 is longer than the AEM5 .22. Sounds like he isn't wanting anything longer than 8-8.5" Yeah the .30cal can is really longer than what I want and this suppressor will spend most of its time on .223's. |
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Originally Posted By locobob68: Yeah the .30cal can is really longer than what I want and this suppressor will spend most of its time on .223's. Originally Posted By locobob68: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By m1garand30064: Originally Posted By locobob68: Question for Ron Allen: I want a suppressor that I can use on multiple guns in .22 and .30cal, I've heard you can get the .22 cans drilled out for .30cal.... is this correct? Option 1 would be an AEM4 drilled out for .30 which would be good because I could employ the 1 piece brake/mounts available from Spikes tactical on some of my harder to fit rifles and avoid barrel machining for collars. Option 2 would be an AEM5 drilled out for .30 which would be nice because I already have a MK12 and because its a little larger suppressor for taming the blast.... but it would be a pain in the ass to adapt a couple of my rifles for collars, is it possible to get a 1 piece brake and collar made for the AEM5? https://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=2763 FWIW - the AEM5 .30 is longer than the AEM5 .22. Sounds like he isn't wanting anything longer than 8-8.5" Yeah the .30cal can is really longer than what I want and this suppressor will spend most of its time on .223's. |
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Originally Posted By AZMAN42:
Good question, I would be interested to see the answer as well. Originally Posted By AZMAN42:
Originally Posted By locobob68:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By m1garand30064:
Originally Posted By locobob68:
Question for Ron Allen: I want a suppressor that I can use on multiple guns in .22 and .30cal, I've heard you can get the .22 cans drilled out for .30cal.... is this correct? Option 1 would be an AEM4 drilled out for .30 which would be good because I could employ the 1 piece brake/mounts available from Spikes tactical on some of my harder to fit rifles and avoid barrel machining for collars. Option 2 would be an AEM5 drilled out for .30 which would be nice because I already have a MK12 and because its a little larger suppressor for taming the blast.... but it would be a pain in the ass to adapt a couple of my rifles for collars, is it possible to get a 1 piece brake and collar made for the AEM5? https://www.adcofirearms.com/itemdetails.cfm?inventorynumber=2763 FWIW - the AEM5 .30 is longer than the AEM5 .22. Sounds like he isn't wanting anything longer than 8-8.5" Yeah the .30cal can is really longer than what I want and this suppressor will spend most of its time on .223's. Well I managed to get Ron on the phone and he can do a lot of custom stuff including a collar that mounts against the shoulder of the barrel so that the brake effectively locks it in place when its screwed on. He can also do different opening sizes for various suppressors but of course there are trade offs involved. I may just look at buying more than one suppressor, while a single do it all unit sounds great in theory the reality is you end up with a compromise that won't be ideal for all situations. |
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Originally Posted By KavonTN: Guess what I just picked up... http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x109/KavonT/Mobile%20Uploads/20151217_215043.jpg will take better pics tomorrow. |
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Originally Posted By LongTrang:
Does anyone have the dimensions for the AEM5 30 PSS contour? I want to lathe down the 20 degree step..etc just like the AE30. So that way I don't need a collar, just the muzzle device. It's the same as the AEM5 .22. Your barrel will need to be over .920 to contour the step into the barrel directly, which a PSS is not. http://www.aesuppressors.com/images/sprdrawing.jpg |
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Originally Posted By bigbore:
It's the same as the AEM5 .22. Your barrel will need to be over .920 to contour the step into the barrel directly, which a PSS is not. http://www.aesuppressors.com/images/sprdrawing.jpg Originally Posted By bigbore:
Originally Posted By LongTrang:
Does anyone have the dimensions for the AEM5 30 PSS contour? I want to lathe down the 20 degree step..etc just like the AE30. So that way I don't need a collar, just the muzzle device. It's the same as the AEM5 .22. Your barrel will need to be over .920 to contour the step into the barrel directly, which a PSS is not. http://www.aesuppressors.com/images/sprdrawing.jpg Understood. A PSS barrel is .830 in diameter. I was drawing a conclusion based on the picture on page 1 under the .30 caliber section. There is a picture in the PSS/Medium contour section that shows what I'm assuming is a medium barrel with the 20 degree step and muzzle device. |
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Originally Posted By bad_company2:
How do you keep the ops inc collar locked in place? Ive had two SPR profile barrels so far, and neither came with a dimple to lock the set screw into place. The collar always works itself loose after a range session. Drill the dimple yourself, and loctite |
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Originally Posted By Edit:
bought an aem5 and an aem5-30 last week. come here and tell me all kinds of cool shit about them while i play the waiting game. 
It's a really fun suppressor. Shot about 10-15 rounds this weekend out of it to test. Really quiet with the MK12. |
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Originally Posted By Edit:
bought an aem5 and an aem5-30 last week. come here and tell me all kinds of cool shit about them while i play the waiting game. 
Amazing suppressor. |
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Originally Posted By CowboyWubWub:
So if I were wanting to build a Mk 12 Mod 1 in, say, 6.5 Grendel, would I want an AEM5-30, or just an AEM5 that's got a larger bore? Either one would be a custom job from Ron, right? I'm not super up on the specifics of 6.5, but as long as it's a .30 cal AEM5, Adco has them in stock usually. |
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Originally Posted By MullSavage:
Does anyone sell AEM5s in the state of georgia? Mk12 mod1 is built and i dont want to wait around on a form 3  Or any dealers at all besides ADCO? |
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Or any dealers at all besides ADCO? Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By MullSavage:
Does anyone sell AEM5s in the state of georgia? Mk12 mod1 is built and i dont want to wait around on a form 3 Or any dealers at all besides ADCO? I got mine though Kevin at HCS |
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Originally Posted By chenault:
I got mine though Kevin at HCS Originally Posted By chenault:
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By MullSavage:
Does anyone sell AEM5s in the state of georgia? Mk12 mod1 is built and i dont want to wait around on a form 3 Or any dealers at all besides ADCO? I got mine though Kevin at HCS Ditto. Kevin os super quick on getting things done ASAP. |
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049: Ditto. Kevin os super quick on getting things done ASAP. Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049: Originally Posted By chenault: Originally Posted By bradpierson26: Originally Posted By MullSavage: Does anyone sell AEM5s in the state of georgia? Mk12 mod1 is built and i dont want to wait around on a form 3 Or any dealers at all besides ADCO? I got mine though Kevin at HCS Ditto. Kevin os super quick on getting things done ASAP. Same here. |
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Same here. Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By chenault:
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By MullSavage:
Does anyone sell AEM5s in the state of georgia? Mk12 mod1 is built and i dont want to wait around on a form 3 Or any dealers at all besides ADCO? I got mine though Kevin at HCS Ditto. Kevin os super quick on getting things done ASAP. Same here. Me too. Hip-hip-hooray for Kevin at HCS. |
| Is there any price difference or sales or flexibility between ADCO/High Caliber/DSG? |
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