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Posted: 5/21/2015 11:11:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: the-answer-is-42]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
bigbore: I'd buy an AE can in a heartbeat if there was some kind of promo on the mount/collar and getting the mount and collar installed on a barrel. IIRC, you're talking like $300 additional to simply mount the $600 can on your barrel. I would agree that if you're not into cloning, MK12 or retro, you probably won't be buying an AE can. Did you know that nowadays you can use OPS/AE cans WITHOUT doing any barrel work at all? Specific barrel lengths allow you to use collars and have no barrel profiling done... For instance: 10.5"/7.5" barrels with the spike's tactical low pro gas block/collar combo will mount a suppressor without profiling The AE m4 adaptor collar AND the spike's LRS collar will allow any government or m4 profiled barrel to use the suppressors without profiling the barrel, too. If you want to use a FSP rifle, then that's a different story- see my posts two posts before this one. |
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Posted: 5/21/2015 11:41:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
bigbore: I'd buy an AE can in a heartbeat if there was some kind of promo on the mount/collar and getting the mount and collar installed on a barrel. IIRC, you're talking like $300 additional to simply mount the $600 can on your barrel. I would agree that if you're not into cloning, MK12 or retro, you probably won't be buying an AE can. Buy a barrel with the proper mil spec contours, and there is no need for any modifications at all. Beyond that, properly modifying a barrel properly is costly. |
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Posted: 5/21/2015 11:45:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore:
Beyond that, properly modifying a barrel properly is costly. Especially when it's done double-properly. 
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Posted: 5/21/2015 12:06:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BurtSaun1049]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore:
Buy a barrel with the proper mil spec contours, and there is no need for any modifications at all. Beyond that, properly modifying a barrel properly is costly. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore:
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
bigbore: I'd buy an AE can in a heartbeat if there was some kind of promo on the mount/collar and getting the mount and collar installed on a barrel. IIRC, you're talking like $300 additional to simply mount the $600 can on your barrel. I would agree that if you're not into cloning, MK12 or retro, you probably won't be buying an AE can. Buy a barrel with the proper mil spec contours, and there is no need for any modifications at all. Beyond that, properly modifying a barrel properly is costly. I paid for Adco to modify my RRA HBAR to accept a 12th model back in the day before all of the new offerings of already contoured barrels. I paid $120, which included the contour and custom collar. The upper in question: 
Mk 12 in progress (mocked up). Barrel will be going to Adco in the next few months for KG coating: 
*ETA: both eagerly awaiting an AEM5 
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Posted: 5/21/2015 12:08:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/21/2015 12:17:40 PM EDT
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Quote Historybigbore, do you mind if I post your information (with a link and credit) in the OP? |
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Posted: 5/21/2015 12:19:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
bigbore, do you mind if I post your information (with a link and credit) in the OP? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
bigbore, do you mind if I post your information (with a link and credit) in the OP? go for it. |
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Posted: 5/21/2015 1:12:10 PM EDT
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Well, somehow I broke the OP.
I changed 1 thing and suddenly none of the underlining/bolding/coloring is working anymore. 
Is there a limit to what you can put in a single post? |
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Posted: 5/21/2015 4:05:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Well, somehow I broke the OP. I changed 1 thing and suddenly none of the underlining/bolding/coloring is working anymore.
Is there a limit to what you can put in a single post? The op is pretty lengthy, there are code limits in posts iirc. That's why when people make threads like this they reserve the first 5-10 postings. |
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Posted: 5/21/2015 8:27:07 PM EDT
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Where is the guy from Tennessee with all the Ops cans? He has some nice stuff but I can't remember his name.
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Posted: 5/21/2015 8:43:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmtsc:
Where is the guy from Tennessee with all the Ops cans? He has some nice stuff but I can't remember his name. The_Accuser |
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Posted: 5/31/2015 2:49:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dangerdan]
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In the OP, the Arfmy SF "M40A3" with the OPS Inc can is an M24E2, Can should be a 12th Model .30, not a 3rd model .30
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Posted: 5/31/2015 2:54:23 AM EDT
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Also, this pic:
 I'm pretty sure it's an SR25 with the early Knights Armament suppressor for the SR25 |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 5/31/2015 3:13:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
Also, this pic:<a href="http://s25.photobucket.com/user/BurtSaun/media/RGR0422_zpsz1tvqf45.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/BurtSaun/RGR0422_zpsz1tvqf45.jpg</a> I'm pretty sure it's an SR25 with the early Knights Armament suppressor for the SR25 I think he's talking about the one slung on the back of the guy on the left. |
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Posted: 5/31/2015 3:17:08 AM EDT
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I sent an email to Allen Engineering last week about making a AEM5 in 6.5mm but haven't received a response. Is there a better way to contact them than via the email address on the website?
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Posted: 5/31/2015 8:28:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BurtSaun1049]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
In the OP, the M40A3 with the OPS Inc can, should be a 12th Model .30, not a 3rd model .30 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
In the OP, the M40A3 with the OPS Inc can, should be a 12th Model .30, not a 3rd model .30 Thanks. How could you tell? Originally Posted By Mblades:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Also, this pic:<a href="http://s25.photobucket.com/user/BurtSaun/media/RGR0422_zpsz1tvqf45.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/BurtSaun/RGR0422_zpsz1tvqf45.jpg</a> I'm pretty sure it's an SR25 with the early Knights Armament suppressor for the SR25 I think he's talking about the one slung on the back of the guy on the left. He may have been talking about an earlier discussion where someone asked about what was the can on the SR-25. Originally Posted By Mblades:
I sent an email to Allen Engineering last week about making a AEM5 in 6.5mm but haven't received a response. Is there a better way to contact them than via the email address on the website? You can try two things: message their Facebook page (when I've done that, I got a response that day, or email him at: [email protected]. He gave that out in the Blackhawk down thread. *ETA: 'him' = Ron Allen, the head honcho at AE. |
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Posted: 5/31/2015 11:15:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
He may have been talking about an earlier discussion where someone asked about what was the can on the SR-25. You can try two things: message their Facebook page (when I've done that, I got a response that day, or email him at: [email protected]. He gave that out in the Blackhawk down thread. *ETA: 'him' = Ron Allen, the head honcho at AE. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By Mblades:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Also, this pic:<a href="http://s25.photobucket.com/user/BurtSaun/media/RGR0422_zpsz1tvqf45.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/BurtSaun/RGR0422_zpsz1tvqf45.jpg</a> I'm pretty sure it's an SR25 with the early Knights Armament suppressor for the SR25 I think he's talking about the one slung on the back of the guy on the left. He may have been talking about an earlier discussion where someone asked about what was the can on the SR-25. Originally Posted By Mblades:
I sent an email to Allen Engineering last week about making a AEM5 in 6.5mm but haven't received a response. Is there a better way to contact them than via the email address on the website? You can try two things: message their Facebook page (when I've done that, I got a response that day, or email him at: [email protected]. He gave that out in the Blackhawk down thread. *ETA: 'him' = Ron Allen, the head honcho at AE. I should have known better than to question Dan. That is the email address I used and I don't have Facebook. I guess I'll contact Steve at ADCO and see if he can modify one of his existing cans or reach out to AE himself. |
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Posted: 5/31/2015 11:20:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RenegadeX]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
From their website: "Note: dB will be close or less than 40 dB" I haven't seen any other external data but anecdotally, lots of folks seem to say that they think they're on the quieter end of the suppressor spectrum. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By chase45:
40 db is pretty high. Ive heard OPS cans are quiet, but 40 decibel reductions? From their website: "Note: dB will be close or less than 40 dB" I haven't seen any other external data but anecdotally, lots of folks seem to say that they think they're on the quieter end of the suppressor spectrum. I think that is a non MILSPEC test. IIR, they meter 96 feet down range. eta http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_20/383352_Ops_Inc_cans__which_one_is_the_best.html |
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Posted: 5/31/2015 11:55:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RenegadeX:
I think that is a non MILSPEC test. IIR, they meter 96 feet down range. eta http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_20/383352_Ops_Inc_cans__which_one_is_the_best.html Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RenegadeX:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By chase45:
40 db is pretty high. Ive heard OPS cans are quiet, but 40 decibel reductions? From their website: "Note: dB will be close or less than 40 dB" I haven't seen any other external data but anecdotally, lots of folks seem to say that they think they're on the quieter end of the suppressor spectrum. I think that is a non MILSPEC test. IIR, they meter 96 feet down range. eta http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_20/383352_Ops_Inc_cans__which_one_is_the_best.html http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_20/383352_Ops_Inc_cans__which_one_is_the_best.html |
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Posted: 5/31/2015 12:59:48 PM EDT
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Everyone, stop posting in this thread. I don't have the cash at the moment.
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Posted: 5/31/2015 1:20:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mblades:
I should have known better than to question Dan. That is the email address I used and I don't have Facebook. I guess I'll contact Steve at ADCO and see if he can modify one of his existing cans or reach out to AE himself. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mblades:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By Mblades:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Also, this pic:<a href="http://s25.photobucket.com/user/BurtSaun/media/RGR0422_zpsz1tvqf45.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/BurtSaun/RGR0422_zpsz1tvqf45.jpg</a> I'm pretty sure it's an SR25 with the early Knights Armament suppressor for the SR25 I think he's talking about the one slung on the back of the guy on the left. He may have been talking about an earlier discussion where someone asked about what was the can on the SR-25. Originally Posted By Mblades:
I sent an email to Allen Engineering last week about making a AEM5 in 6.5mm but haven't received a response. Is there a better way to contact them than via the email address on the website? You can try two things: message their Facebook page (when I've done that, I got a response that day, or email him at: [email protected]. He gave that out in the Blackhawk down thread. *ETA: 'him' = Ron Allen, the head honcho at AE. I should have known better than to question Dan. That is the email address I used and I don't have Facebook. I guess I'll contact Steve at ADCO and see if he can modify one of his existing cans or reach out to AE himself. Lol. I think you can custom order through Adco, so give Steve a call! Let me know what he says. |
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Posted: 5/31/2015 7:09:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dangerdan]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049: Thanks. How could you tell? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049: Originally Posted By dangerdan: In the OP, the Army SF "M40A3" with the OPS Inc can is an M24E2, Can should be a 12th Model .30, not a 3rd model .30 Thanks. How could you tell? I had to revise my post. I didn't pay attention. Fairly certain that the gun is an M24E2 barreled action (note the long action). The only M24's with OPS Inc cans, is the M24E2, which utilizes the 12th Model .30 |
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Posted: 5/31/2015 9:33:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
I had to revise my post. I didn't pay attention. Fairly certain that the gun is an M24E2 barreled action (note the long action). The only M24's with OPS Inc cans, is the M24E2, which utilizes the 12th Model .30 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
In the OP, the Army SF "M40A3" with the OPS Inc can is an M24E2, Can should be a 12th Model .30, not a 3rd model .30 Thanks. How could you tell? I had to revise my post. I didn't pay attention. Fairly certain that the gun is an M24E2 barreled action (note the long action). The only M24's with OPS Inc cans, is the M24E2, which utilizes the 12th Model .30 Interredasting. Thanks for the info. Unrelated: but I've noticed that the knurling on the 3rd model has some near the front of the can and others has it nearer to the FSB. Just thought it was interesting. May allow for dating of when they were issued. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 5/31/2015 10:59:30 PM EDT
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Thanks to all providing details to this thread. Got a few answers to some things I was wondering.
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Posted: 6/1/2015 8:22:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Interredasting. Thanks for the info. Unrelated: but I've noticed that the knurling on the 3rd model has some near the front of the can and others has it nearer to the FSB. Just thought it was interesting. May allow for dating of when they were issued. I recently inquired about getting an AEM5 with the knurling, and was told Ron had a couple on hand. Maybe one less now..... 
Has anyone else ordered an AEM5 recently, with knurling? Pics? |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 8:35:41 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnStoner:
For anyone on the fence about these cans and mounts.... DOOO EEEEEET! I have 5 different 5.56 suppressors and the Ops 12th/AEM 5 sound by far the best with the least amount of POI shift unsuppressed to suppressed. This has proven true on 3 separate hosts with the same can. 2 Ballistic Advantage and 1 Douglas. Great suppressor, many awesome, huge silence, much wow. 
Ops photo dump: <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/20150321_185952_zps1txt0yu6.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/20150321_185952_zps1txt0yu6.jpg</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod1and3LightClean_zpsb19c6646.png.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod1and3LightClean_zpsb19c6646.png</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod3_zpsedcf0356.png.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod3_zpsedcf0356.png</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/Mobile%20Uploads/MK12MOD1URXIII_zps840cbc5d.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/Mobile%20Uploads/MK12MOD1URXIII_zps840cbc5d.jpg</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/MK12%20Mod%20H/Mk12ModHFDER_zpsdc6ed017.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/MK12%20Mod%20H/Mk12ModHFDER_zpsdc6ed017.jpg</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod1wMK25andsuppressors_zpsf70ca408.png.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod1wMK25andsuppressors_zpsf70ca408.png</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150305_122620_zpshqgolo9l.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/Mobile%20Uploads/20150305_122620_zpshqgolo9l.jpg</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/20150119_095109_zpstis6iuok.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/20150119_095109_zpstis6iuok.jpg</a> Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnStoner:
For anyone on the fence about these cans and mounts.... DOOO EEEEEET! I have 5 different 5.56 suppressors and the Ops 12th/AEM 5 sound by far the best with the least amount of POI shift unsuppressed to suppressed. This has proven true on 3 separate hosts with the same can. 2 Ballistic Advantage and 1 Douglas. Great suppressor, many awesome, huge silence, much wow.
Ops photo dump: <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/20150321_185952_zps1txt0yu6.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/20150321_185952_zps1txt0yu6.jpg</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod1and3LightClean_zpsb19c6646.png.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod1and3LightClean_zpsb19c6646.png</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod3_zpsedcf0356.png.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod3_zpsedcf0356.png</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/Mobile%20Uploads/MK12MOD1URXIII_zps840cbc5d.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/Mobile%20Uploads/MK12MOD1URXIII_zps840cbc5d.jpg</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/MK12%20Mod%20H/Mk12ModHFDER_zpsdc6ed017.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/MK12%20Mod%20H/Mk12ModHFDER_zpsdc6ed017.jpg</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod1wMK25andsuppressors_zpsf70ca408.png.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/MK12%20Mod%201/MK12Mod1wMK25andsuppressors_zpsf70ca408.png</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150305_122620_zpshqgolo9l.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/Mobile%20Uploads/20150305_122620_zpshqgolo9l.jpg</a> <a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/johndsphoto/media/20150119_095109_zpstis6iuok.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/johndsphoto/20150119_095109_zpstis6iuok.jpg</a> Whoa, great collection there boss. And nice brain shot on that 'yote too
Originally Posted By LowplainsWindage:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Interredasting. Thanks for the info. Unrelated: but I've noticed that the knurling on the 3rd model has some near the front of the can and others has it nearer to the FSB. Just thought it was interesting. May allow for dating of when they were issued. I recently inquired about getting an AEM5 with the knurling, and was told Ron had a couple on hand. Maybe one less now.....
Has anyone else ordered an AEM5 recently, with knurling? Pics? I ordered one on the 18th from High Caliber Sales, but I have not laid eyes on it. Form 3 probably won't clear until mid-July. I'll post pics when I go to fill out the Form 4. I hope it has knurling, but I doubt it. 
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Posted: 6/1/2015 8:39:58 AM EDT
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I went through Kevin too. I had to ask about the knurling specifically, and he made it sound like they're without any knurling unless requested.
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Posted: 6/1/2015 9:19:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LowplainsWindage:
I went through Kevin too. I had to ask about the knurling specifically, and he made it sound like they're without any knurling unless requested. Shoot, I didn't even think to ask. I just shot him an email to see, but I doubt it will.
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Posted: 6/1/2015 9:53:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Shoot, I didn't even think to ask. I just shot him an email to see, but I doubt it will. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By LowplainsWindage:
I went through Kevin too. I had to ask about the knurling specifically, and he made it sound like they're without any knurling unless requested. Shoot, I didn't even think to ask. I just shot him an email to see, but I doubt it will. I almost forgot to ask too! Honestly didn't think they'd have any. I've read (maybe in this thread?) that Ron will make them if requested. Didnt have mine made special- he must've made a knurled batch already and only had a couple left. |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 10:01:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LowplainsWindage:
I almost forgot to ask too! Honestly didn't think they'd have any. I've read (maybe in this thread?) that Ron will make them if requested. Didnt have mine made special- he must've made a knurled batch already and only had a couple left. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LowplainsWindage:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By LowplainsWindage:
I went through Kevin too. I had to ask about the knurling specifically, and he made it sound like they're without any knurling unless requested. Shoot, I didn't even think to ask. I just shot him an email to see, but I doubt it will. I almost forgot to ask too! Honestly didn't think they'd have any. I've read (maybe in this thread?) that Ron will make them if requested. Didnt have mine made special- he must've made a knurled batch already and only had a couple left. Yeah, one of the greatest things about AE is that they seem extremely adaptable to whatever you want. Pretty much if you want it done and are willing to wait a bit, Ron will take care of you. |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 4:09:14 PM EDT
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My 3 OPs cans
3rd 762 
3rd 556 
m4s on a 11.5" barrel 
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Posted: 6/1/2015 5:24:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BadSVT:
My 3 OPs cans 3rd 762 http://aggunner.com/pictures/range/9-21-14/gap.jpg 3rd 556 http://aggunner.com/pictures/range/9-21-14/tikka2.jpg m4s on a 11.5" barrel http://aggunner.com/pictures/firearms/kac/kacm4s.jpg How long is that 3rd 762?? Looks longer than 10.5"! |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 6:02:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAR-SPR:
How long is that 3rd 762?? Looks longer than 10.5"! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAR-SPR:
Originally Posted By BadSVT:
My 3 OPs cans 3rd 762 http://aggunner.com/pictures/range/9-21-14/gap.jpg 3rd 556 http://aggunner.com/pictures/range/9-21-14/tikka2.jpg m4s on a 11.5" barrel http://aggunner.com/pictures/firearms/kac/kacm4s.jpg How long is that 3rd 762?? Looks longer than 10.5"! Haha it does look pretty long. Bet that thing is super quiet. Great collection BadSVT! |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 7:48:41 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BadSVT:
My 3 OPs cans 3rd 762 http://aggunner.com/pictures/range/9-21-14/gap.jpg 3rd 556 http://aggunner.com/pictures/range/9-21-14/tikka2.jpg m4s on a 11.5" barrel That's a fantastic setup! I hope I can emulate something like that with an AEM2. What gas block is that? I was worried about clearance issues with the collar. |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 8:04:19 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BadSVT: My 3 OPs cans 3rd 762 http://aggunner.com/pictures/range/9-21-14/gap.jpg 3rd 556 http://aggunner.com/pictures/range/9-21-14/tikka2.jpg m4s on a 11.5" barrel http://aggunner.com/pictures/firearms/kac/kacm4s.jpg |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 9:10:50 PM EDT
[#37]
so for those in the know, what's the chance of the collars working with a standard a2 government profile barrel?
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Posted: 6/1/2015 9:29:54 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
so for those in the know, what's the chance of the collars working with a standard a2 government profile barrel? Which collar and who makes the barrel? The 16th model/AEM4's and lower should work with the standard M4/gov't profile barrel made to the mil standard (such as Colt). Others are hit or miss. |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 9:30:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JohnStoner]
[#39]
With the standard profile you just need the proper collar and you're good to go.
If in doubt Adco is a great source of information. If you email Ron Allen over at Allen Engineering he should be able to furnish proper OD and length measurements for different barrel profiles and supressors. I know one or both of them in the past have made custom profile collars if requested. |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 9:34:03 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Which collar and who makes the barrel? The 16th model/AEM4's and lower should work with the standard M4/gov't profile barrel made to the mil standard (such as Colt). Others are hit or miss. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
so for those in the know, what's the chance of the collars working with a standard a2 government profile barrel? Which collar and who makes the barrel? The 16th model/AEM4's and lower should work with the standard M4/gov't profile barrel made to the mil standard (such as Colt). Others are hit or miss. For either AEM4 or 5, it's a FNH barrel |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 9:59:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BurtSaun1049]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
For either AEM4 or 5, it's a FNH barrel Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
so for those in the know, what's the chance of the collars working with a standard a2 government profile barrel? Which collar and who makes the barrel? The 16th model/AEM4's and lower should work with the standard M4/gov't profile barrel made to the mil standard (such as Colt). Others are hit or miss. For either AEM4 or 5, it's a FNH barrel They have different mounts. I'm not sure about the geometry of the FN barrel, but I would think it would be good to go? *ETA: good to go on an AEM4 mount, not the AEM5. AEM5 requires a 'step' (0.750) in the barrel to mount the collar. The AEM4 collar should be able to mount to the step located ~1 inch from the muzzle threads that's already machined into mil-spec M4 barrels. |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 10:12:17 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
They have different mounts. I'm not sure about the geometry of the FN barrel, but I would think it would be good to go? *ETA: good to go on an AEM4 mount, not the AEM5. AEM5 requires a 'step' (0.750) in the barrel to mount the collar. The AEM4 collar should be able to mount to the step located ~1 inch from the muzzle threads that's already machined into mil-spec M4 barrels. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
so for those in the know, what's the chance of the collars working with a standard a2 government profile barrel? Which collar and who makes the barrel? The 16th model/AEM4's and lower should work with the standard M4/gov't profile barrel made to the mil standard (such as Colt). Others are hit or miss. For either AEM4 or 5, it's a FNH barrel They have different mounts. I'm not sure about the geometry of the FN barrel, but I would think it would be good to go? *ETA: good to go on an AEM4 mount, not the AEM5. AEM5 requires a 'step' (0.750) in the barrel to mount the collar. The AEM4 collar should be able to mount to the step located ~1 inch from the muzzle threads that's already machined into mil-spec M4 barrels. There's a mount that also uses the USGI step but allows for the M5 to be mounted. |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 10:24:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dangerdan]
[#43]
The 16th Model has the same baffle stack as the 12th model.
The only difference is that the 16th can be used on M4 14.5" barrels and still be capable of mounting an M203. Assuming all the OPS data transfers over since AE took over 100%, I would assume the same can be said for the AEM4 and AEM5 |
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Posted: 6/2/2015 4:19:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: the-answer-is-42]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mblades:
That's a fantastic setup! I hope I can emulate something like that with an AEM2. What gas block is that? I was worried about clearance issues with the collar. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mblades:
Originally Posted By BadSVT:
My 3 OPs cans 3rd 762 http://aggunner.com/pictures/range/9-21-14/gap.jpg 3rd 556 http://aggunner.com/pictures/range/9-21-14/tikka2.jpg m4s on a 11.5" barrel http://aggunner.com/pictures/firearms/kac/kacm4s.jpg That's a fantastic setup! I hope I can emulate something like that with an AEM2. What gas block is that? I was worried about clearance issues with the collar. Spike's tapered micro gas block .750: http://www.spikestactical.com/upper-parts-tapered-micro-gas-block-750-for-suppressor-p-919.html made for spike's LRS/MRS suppressors as well as OPS INC/AE suppressors to butt up against the gas block. |
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Posted: 6/2/2015 8:52:15 PM EDT
[#45]
Really like my AEM5. Got it from ADCO along with the old longer collar.
Don't hate on my non-perfect MK12 clone... Pic was taken when the form came back and I was expecting to have to wait another 2-3 months. 
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Posted: 6/2/2015 9:16:52 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DocBrooks:
Really like my AEM5. Got it from ADCO along with the old longer collar. Don't hate on my non-perfect MK12 clone... Pic was taken when the form came back and I was expecting to have to wait another 2-3 months. http://i.imgur.com/hz94hZd.jpg No hate here! Clone looks great. Just needs a Leupy and you'll be good to go! |
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Posted: 6/2/2015 9:36:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SaturationTech]
[#47]
Perhaps someone can help me with a question. I've done a MK12 build, complete with an OpsInc 12th model. A current project is to build a duplicate of the MK12, but on the AR-10 platform, chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor. Ops offered the 12th model in 30 caliber, with the same mounting system as the 223 caliber. The new AE 30 cal suppressor does away with the muzzlebreak. While not a total deal breaker, I'd like the build to have the 12th model style break and collar. Other than trying to find an OpsInc 12th in stock somewhere, anyone have any insight in to the best way to proceed?
ETA. Picture of my MK12 in it's current state. Please excuse the Leupold MK6 on top... 
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Posted: 6/2/2015 9:46:17 PM EDT
[#48]
Excellent photos!
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Posted: 6/2/2015 9:55:33 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SaturationTech:
While not a total deal breaker, I'd like the build to have the 12th model style break and collar. No problem, the AEM5 can be ordered in .30 flavor 
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Posted: 6/2/2015 10:02:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Izhevsk54r]
[#50]
I know I asked about a gov profile barrel, but all I need is that spikes tapered gas block and I can run an AEM4 on a 7.5"? Will it also work for the aem5?
edit: and a compatible muzzle device obviously |
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