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Posted: 2/6/2025 10:02:22 AM EDT
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My scar is a nrch, in my quest for mk16 authenticity and reliability I am thinking of trading my nrch for an rch. What are the cons of the rch ? Personally the way I hold the gun my hands would never be in the way of the handle and outside of that I don’t see much of an issue going to an rch |
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At some point you will have your hand in the wrong place. Hurts like a mf. I just converted my old Scars to NRCH. Keep the old parts. If you change - you need the old end plate, old bolt and old charging handle, suitable torque wrench, torx bits, Locktite 601 green, heat gun or soldering iron. I like the freedoms of hand placement for any scenario. |
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It's not a disaster or anything...but I find it to be a persistent annoyance. If I leave it on the left at some point my arm/wrist/hand inevitably hits or blocks it. I've had the carry loop of my glove catch the handle multiple times when shooting from strange/compromised positions. I've since moved it to the right, which has more or less resolved things. It's still not great as I'm now dealing with closer to AK-style weapon manipulations to manually rack the action. I'm not saying any of this is unacceptable. But I don't like it. |
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Originally Posted By JohnGA: At some point you will have your hand in the wrong place. Hurts like a mf. I just converted my old Scars to NRCH. Keep the old parts. If you change - you need the old end plate, old bolt and old charging handle, suitable torque wrench, torx bits, Locktite 601 green, heat gun or soldering iron. I like the freedoms of hand placement for any scenario. @johnGA what did you need to convert the reciprocating charging handle? |
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You need the FN kit. It comes with the new receiver plate with new bolts (includes the pin), sled and carrier assembly, the 2 charging handles (old ones do not fit - nor do some aftermarket ones - I miss my Impact Weapons charging handle) and an instruction booklet. If you have a side mount sling QD on the front plate - you need to remove that. I used a soldering iron in the bolt head hole instead of a torch - did not want to rise damage an have to remove all the rail covers. 5 Minutes usually was enough to allow you to remove the bolts. FN uses 601 green on the front plate bolts. It is really tough. You take the rifle apart to only the receiver and barrel. Then use TORX to remove the 6 barrel bolts - follow the directions! My 16S had 25mm and 27mm TORX bolts - not all 25mm or 25mm and 30mm as per the booklet. When you reassemble - remember the 601 green starts to setup quick. You do 1 side, use the FN torque wrench to tighten. Then do the other side. The bolts are not reusable so use the new ones. Not hard if you have the tools and can read. Just heat those bolts as directed! |
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Cons of the RCH would be finger whacking if you're holding your hand in the wrong spot. You said you don't grip it anywhere near the CH, so probably a non-issue. On my RCH 17S I just put a VFG up front as a gripping point so I knew where to keep my hand away from the RCH. Other than that malfunctions can be induced if your gun is against a barrier, laying sideways, or whatever and the CH cycle gets blocked by something. |
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I’ve had a few RCH Scar 17s, and while I agree and have placed a VFG or handstop to minimize the catching your thumb on the handle, it’s still in a bad spot. Mounting it at the front of the carrier near the receiver rail limits hand placement to forward of the receiver, but then once you start mounting any lights or PEQs, you inevitably have to shift your grip rearward, and there’s a very limited amount of rail estate on these weapons. If the CH was mounted farther back, I don’t think we would be having the polarization of the RCH, just the issue of optics and their mounts. |
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An I the only one who mounts my CH on the other side? I started with AKs years ago when I was poor(still am) and am used to using my right hand to charge the rifle. So much so I load ARs with my right hand. I should probably practice fundamentals but old habits are hard to shake. |
| I tried it, I remember not being a big fan of it when running it at a 2Gun. Again, it was just a clearance thing with mounts. Really nit-picky, but it was alleviated somewhat with the GG&G CH. I just changed it back to the left side because I preferred manipulating it there, and just ran a vfg as a hand stop. |
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Originally Posted By JohnGA: At some point you will have your hand in the wrong place. Hurts like a mf. I just converted my old Scars to NRCH. Keep the old parts. If you change - you need the old end plate, old bolt and old charging handle, suitable torque wrench, torx bits, Locktite 601 green, heat gun or soldering iron. I like the freedoms of hand placement for any scenario. I had a MK17 charging handle hit my thumb once and as much as I thought it would hurt, it didn’t at all. The only thing it did was cause a jam since the shell wasn’t ejected. I don’t know which is better though since I’ve never shot a NRCH SCAR, but I’ve read here that those can have their own set of issues. Unfortunately I can’t remember what people were complaining about. |
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Originally Posted By JamesJones: An I the only one who mounts my CH on the other side? I started with AKs years ago when I was poor(still am) and am used to using my right hand to charge the rifle. So much so I load ARs with my right hand. I should probably practice fundamentals but old habits are hard to shake. I run my RCH 17 with right side charging handle |
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