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12/15/2025 8:41:55 PM EDT
Shotgun transfer from a Kentucky dealer to a 55 year old Tennessee resident today. After the usual rundown of 4473 questions (including providing buyer's SSI #) the examiner circles back and asked for the buyer's full address, does the buyer resides inside the city limits? (Yes) and is this sale at Gun Show? (No). After providing the NTN the transfer is “Delayed”. We got a call back within the hour with a “Proceed”


This is the first time I can recall the examiner asking for the additional data. Is this something new?
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12/15/2025 8:57:08 PM EDT
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Wasn't the city limits question added to the 4473 a few years ago? I've not been an FFL in a couple years but I seem to remember that.
12/15/2025 9:05:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By -Obsessed-:
Wasn't the city limits question added to the 4473 a few years ago? I've not been an FFL in a couple years but I seem to remember that.
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The "city limits" question was added to the 4473 in August 2023. Today is the first time an examiner has asked for the answer to that question.
Steve Rose - RAS

"Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks"
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12/15/2025 9:06:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By -Obsessed-:
Wasn't the city limits question added to the 4473 a few years ago? I've not been an FFL in a couple years but I seem to remember that.
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Yes
12/16/2025 2:48:05 AM EDT
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And asking for the address just means they are going to delay it.  They always get cutesy and ask that first, then you know what's coming.   But they won't tell you it's delayed first, then get the additional info.   Routine delay status.
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12/16/2025 3:49:00 AM EDT
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What's the point of the city limits question?
12/16/2025 4:22:32 AM EDT
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I haven't sold guns in a long time but as mentioned if the examiner starts asking for more information than normal a delay is probably in your future. They are just seeing some flags they need to check out.
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12/16/2025 4:41:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Daggertt:
What's the point of the city limits question?
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It's more stupid shit the Bidenistas added.    It's so they know whether to send local police or county sheriff to your house if you're a wanted person.    Fortunately, they also provided a "unknown" response, so I always check that, as I have no idea what it even means in the context of NH towns.
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12/16/2025 10:12:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jodan1776:
And asking for the address just means they are going to delay it.  They always get cutesy and ask that first, then you know what's coming.   But they won't tell you it's delayed first, then get the additional info.   Routine delay status.
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It also applies to "deny" status.
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12/16/2025 10:36:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Daggertt:
What's the point of the city limits question?
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When there are additional regulations/restrictions that only affect those within the city limits. Think Chicago gun laws vs. State of Illinois or Cook Co. laws
12/16/2025 10:57:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GunCat:
Shotgun transfer from a Kentucky dealer to a 55 year old Tennessee resident today. After the usual rundown of 4473 questions (including providing buyer's SSI #) the examiner circles back and asked for the buyer's full address, does the buyer resides inside the city limits? (Yes) and is this sale at Gun Show? (No). After providing the NTN the transfer is "Delayed". We got a call back within the hour with a "Proceed"


This is the first time I can recall the examiner asking for the additional data. Is this something new?
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I've seen that before, in Missouri.

I used to live in a little place in the hood called The Village of Riverview, that was inside of St. Louis County, which borders St. Louis, the City...
My Zip Code was 63137, but that zip covered Bellefontaine Neighbors, Glasgow Village, Riverview, and Moline Acres

I filled it out as
xxx Adrian Dr
St. Louis, Mo 63137

Same as every other form I've filled out and every piece of mail I had gotten in 40 years.

At least twice, they came back and needed clarification.

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12/16/2025 11:07:11 AM EDT
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I like how there is an unsure option because I'm right on the border and not 100% sure. Only recently learned I am technically within but without looking at a city deed map I wouldn't know.
12/16/2025 11:32:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bladeswitcher][Edited] [#12]
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Originally Posted By Daggertt:
What's the point of the city limits question?
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Tells them which law enforcement agency to call. IIRC, the question was added when they created "enhanced background checks" for buyers younger than age 21.


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12/16/2025 11:42:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By green_bullet:
I like how there is an unsure option because I'm right on the border and not 100% sure. Only recently learned I am technically within but without looking at a city deed map I wouldn't know.
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Generally the occupant if they owned the property would know due to who is getting their property tax money.  At least here, I pay town and county land taxes.  Others would pay village or city taxes instead of town.

Mailing address can be very misleading.  My post office that delivers my mail is from the adjoining town so that is the one on my mailing address but it’s not the town that gets my taxes.  I am very far/miles from the town line too.
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12/16/2025 12:21:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SteelonSteel:
Mailing address can be very misleading.  My post office that delivers my mail is from the adjoining town so that is the one on my mailing address but it’s not the town that gets my taxes.  I am very far/miles from the town line too.
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Same here. My DL, LTC, etc is not my residence address, and they will not allow me to put my residence address on it. It is my mailing address.

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