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6/30/2026 12:32:34 PM EDT
I recently acquired a Japanese type 89 knee mortar that has been demilled by cutting a hole in the barrel and a crosspin welded across the bore. I asked on the gunboard forums about how to disassemble it and possibly getting it registered as a DD. I'm being told that even with the hole and crosspin it is still a DD and that it can't be legally demilled or owned unless I am a SOT. I feel like that is bad information, otherwise what is the point of demilling it. I know there are others that have registered DD mortars so I figured I'd ask here and see if anyone know just what the requirements are.
6/30/2026 12:40:29 PM EDT
[#1]
is the cup and pin still present or what they would consider the same for knee mortar
6/30/2026 12:46:32 PM EDT
[#2]
You’re overthinking this. Just fill out a form one and reactivate it.

6/30/2026 1:34:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Oberschutze][Edited] [#3]
There is a firing pin, but it may be broken, I need to get it apart. It's not a fixed firing pin like a traditional mortar, it uses a striker. I'd like to form 1 it, but I want to get it completely apart first to see if there are any unobtainium parts missing or broken that might make it not worthwhile.
6/30/2026 2:38:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dominion21][Edited] [#4]
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Originally Posted By 18B30:
You’re overthinking this. Just fill out a form one and reactivate it.

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Yes - agree 100%.

@Oberschutze

- think of it this way:  once your Form-1 is approved (and it WILL be approved eventually), you have “brought it into compliance.”  That is all.  The past becomes meaningless upon approval.

Just file.

6/30/2026 3:08:00 PM EDT
[#5]
True, I just want to make sure it is worth the effort. I'd hate to form 1 it and then find  it is unrepairable.

Another thought, what if it were sleeved down with a permanently installed smooth bore 37mm tube? Would that put it in the flare launcher category rather than a DD?
6/30/2026 8:07:22 PM EDT
[#6]
Just remember, Form 1 s are $0.00 now. Go ahead and do it.
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6/30/2026 10:36:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer_Shootist:
Just remember, Form 1 s are $0.00 now. Go ahead and do it.
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DDs and MGs are still taxed.
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-Notcalifornialegal
6/30/2026 10:39:55 PM EDT
[#8]
The barrel is dead.  That’s the feature (bore diameter) that makes it a DD.

A live cup by itself is a firearm.  But it’s no longer NFA if the barrel is dead by drilling a hole the size of the bore in a high pressure area and welding a pin or other obstruction* across the muzzle.

*I’ve seen the metal from the bore diameter barrel hole welded in place as the obstruction.

OP, file your F1.  Just remember that DDs (and MGs) are still taxed.
“Don't post anything here or send anything you aren't willing to defend in court.”

-Notcalifornialegal
7/1/2026 7:28:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By prebans:


DDs and MGs are still taxed.
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Originally Posted By prebans:
Originally Posted By Mountaineer_Shootist:
Just remember, Form 1 s are $0.00 now. Go ahead and do it.


DDs and MGs are still taxed.

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Thanks prebans !
Sorry for the mistake...
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7/3/2026 10:04:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer_Shootist:

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Thanks prebans !
Sorry for the mistake...
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No apology necessary.  Believe me, I make plenty!  
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