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5/13/2026 7:49:38 PM EDT
Anyone near Saginaw, MI willing and able to walk a noob through the correct form fOr making an 80% into an SBR?

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5/14/2026 8:54:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Retroguy2:
Anyone near Saginaw, MI willing and able to walk a noob through the correct form fOr making an 80% into an SBR?

We can discuss things via messages here.
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I don’t get into MI any more after breaking up with my Fiancée.  But a Form 1 should be all you need.
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5/14/2026 9:42:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By prebans:


I don’t get into MI any more after breaking up with my Fiancée.  But a Form 1 should be all you need.
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Sorry about your now former lady.

Ty kindly for the knowledge.
5/17/2026 10:36:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Retroguy2:


Sorry about your now former lady.

Ty kindly for the knowledge.
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Thank you.  It sucked at the time, but now I see that I dodged a bullet.  Used to be in Grand Rapids a lot.

You may want to ask in the MI HTF too.  Some of MI's weird handgun rules may come into effect if the overall length is below 26" when it's folded or collapsed in the shortest configuration that can fire.  (The Feds measure with the stock at its fullest open / uncollapsed length.  MI and CA are the two oddities who measure at the shortest.)
“Don't post anything here or send anything you aren't willing to defend in court.”

-Notcalifornialegal
5/19/2026 9:23:47 PM EDT
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Any specific questions? You should just fill out the form 1 as normal, your trust name and address goes in box 4B since you are the manufacturer

I filled out a bunch of form 1s for sbrs that I don't even have parts for, just trying to future proof myself.  Can't do that for factory guns but you can for 80%s/sten tubes/etc.
Yea, come unto Christ, and be perfected in him, and deny yourselves of all ungodliness.
5/21/2026 10:02:37 AM EDT
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Any specific questions? You should just fill out the form 1 as normal, your trust name and address goes in box 4B since you are the manufacturer

I filled out a bunch of form 1s for sbrs that I don't even have parts for, just trying to future proof myself.  Can't do that for factory guns but you can for 80%s/sten tubes/etc.
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No real, specific questions, maybe 1: is a trust required? Cost of trust?

Just nervous as shit about the overall process, as I am a boomer noob.

I do NOT want to mess up.

If you wish to help do something remotely via DM here, we can.
5/21/2026 1:33:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: walldj45][Edited] [#6]
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Originally Posted By Retroguy2:


No real, specific questions, maybe 1: is a trust required? Cost of trust?

Just nervous as shit about the overall process, as I am a boomer noob.

I do NOT want to mess up.

If you wish to help do something remotely via DM here, we can.
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Originally Posted By Retroguy2:

Any specific questions? You should just fill out the form 1 as normal, your trust name and address goes in box 4B since you are the manufacturer

I filled out a bunch of form 1s for sbrs that I don't even have parts for, just trying to future proof myself.  Can't do that for factory guns but you can for 80%s/sten tubes/etc.


No real, specific questions, maybe 1: is a trust required? Cost of trust?

Just nervous as shit about the overall process, as I am a boomer noob.

I do NOT want to mess up.

If you wish to help do something remotely via DM here, we can.



Don't be nervous, it's a weird process to get started but once you get into it it's not that bad.

Lots of discussion online about Trust vs Individual. Basically Trust creates a legal entity that owns the item, easier to have other authorized users, small upfront cost and a little more paperwork but much easier for passing on/etc.  

https://www.nationalguntrusts.com/cart

$50 here

Do that, get your fingerprints printed on a FD-258, ($5 on amazon, free from ATF if you want to wait for them to ship them, might get them from local police for free?)

Then mail your fingerprint card to Hansohn Brothers who will turn it into a special digital format for $35

https://hansohnbrothers.com/shop/hansohn-brothers/accessories/eft-conversion-service/

Once you have those digitally you're free to submit form 1s as fast as you can fill them out.

ETA: The worst that can happen with form 1s is that you get disapproved, AKA wasted time.  

With the stamps being free you can just start throwing stuff at the wall and see what sticks.  
Yea, come unto Christ, and be perfected in him, and deny yourselves of all ungodliness.

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