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3/6/2025 10:26:20 PM EDT
[#1]
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Originally Posted By Trunkmonkey4:
What cans is everyone using for their true SD conversions?

Looks like all B&T has is a flow through, and that seems counterintuitive to me on this.

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I ordered a HiTech 12"
I'll let you know how it works out when I get my gun and can.
"My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori." -Wilfred Owen
3/6/2025 10:55:33 PM EDT
[#2]
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Originally Posted By Trunkmonkey4:
What cans is everyone using for their true SD conversions?
Looks like all B&T has is a flow through, and that seems counterintuitive to me on this.
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I ordered B&T's new Print-X SD-M Ti which includes both a vented and non-vented endcap. I plan on running the non-vented. It hasn't shipped yet.

https://bt-usa.com/products/print-x-mp5-sd-m-ti/
3/7/2025 10:19:58 AM EDT
[#3]
Good call - I just ordered one.




Now to go buy the rest....
3/7/2025 11:16:04 AM EDT
[#4]
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Originally Posted By KitBuilder:
I ordered B&T's new Print-X SD-M Ti which includes both a vented and non-vented endcap. I plan on running the non-vented. It hasn't shipped yet.

https://bt-usa.com/products/print-x-mp5-sd-m-ti/
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I'd like to see a non modular version. I'd expect some 3D printed cans to really excel on the SD.
3/7/2025 11:22:09 AM EDT
[#5]
I wanted a B&T can but everywhere I looked they were out of stock with no solid eta.
"My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori." -Wilfred Owen
3/7/2025 12:03:31 PM EDT
[#6]
Broad River Tactical makes an SD thread adapter to add an extended blast chamber onto a conventional can.

Might be worth checking out to use a can you already own on an SD conversion.
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3/7/2025 4:53:56 PM EDT
[#7]
Mine is back from the smith (Bahnof Machine) and test fired it last night at the local indoor range.  Very quiet with full-size and compact B&T cans compared to my unconverted AP5SD with an Omega 9K.  I plan to try it at my property in WV this weekend to get feel for suppression without ear pro.  

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3/8/2025 10:09:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: muzzleloader][Edited] [#8]
Does the Ap5sd have the proper SD cocking tube support?

I have an early Hitec SD can that has a larger diameter than 1.5”. Not sure what the diameter is, but it fits the broad river tactical sd handguards.

ETA: can diameter is 1.625”. Will it fit the ap5SD?
3/8/2025 11:10:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Eight][Edited] [#9]
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Originally Posted By muzzleloader:
Does the Ap5sd have the proper SD cocking tube support?

I have an early Hitec SD can that has a larger diameter than 1.5”. Not sure what the diameter is, but it fits the broad river tactical sd handguards.

ETA: can diameter is 1.625”. Will it fit the ap5SD?
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I have a Wolfman on mine, listed as 1.618 diameter. There is room for a bigger can.
3/9/2025 9:12:38 PM EDT
[#10]
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Originally Posted By Eight:

I have a Wolfman on mine, listed as 1.618 diameter. There is room for a bigger can.
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Thanks!
3/13/2025 4:28:12 PM EDT
[#11]
Some I'm guessing the barrel on these is just the -P barrel? Is it threaded?
3/13/2025 5:21:52 PM EDT
[#12]
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Originally Posted By kc3:
Some I'm guessing the barrel on these is just the -P barrel? Is it threaded?
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The barrel has 3-lug and 1/2x28 threads
3/13/2025 6:13:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Trunkmonkey4][Edited] [#13]
Just picked mine up today. First time handling an MKE. I am seriously impressed.
3/13/2025 7:13:35 PM EDT
[#14]
Took my AP5-SD to shoot outdoors over the weekend.  Running both a fullsize and compact B&T cans, it was relatively hearing safe.  The bullet hitting steel was louder than anything else.  I could not hear a big difference between the two cans.  It is very smooth shooting - currently my favorite long gun.
3/13/2025 7:57:49 PM EDT
[#15]
Did my Form4 for my suppressor yesterday, and got the shipment notice that my gun was on the back HiTech who did the conversion.
"My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori." -Wilfred Owen
3/14/2025 9:50:18 AM EDT
[#16]
FYI - 115deg locking pieces back in stock at RCM.
3/14/2025 8:04:22 PM EDT
[#17]
Fastest turn around time I've ever had on a Form4, 27 hours...

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"My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori." -Wilfred Owen
3/15/2025 12:38:11 AM EDT
[#18]
Mine just shipped from Atlantic.  I did see a video that shows the ap5sd handguard is much more “plastic” than the hk variant.  Whats your thought on this to those that have one?  I’ve got a broad river tactical handguard on a colt 9mm and I’m thinking I’ll just swap it to the ap5. Is the ap5sd handguard really that bad??
3/15/2025 7:48:12 AM EDT
[#19]
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Originally Posted By CaptShiess:
Mine just shipped from Atlantic.  I did see a video that shows the ap5sd handguard is much more “plastic” than the hk variant.  Whats your thought on this to those that have one?  I’ve got a broad river tactical handguard on a colt 9mm and I’m thinking I’ll just swap it to the ap5. Is the ap5sd handguard really that bad??
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Yeah the MKE handguard is squeaky and hard as in I'd slide my hand on it and it would squeak. I put a Broad River Tactical on and it feels much better. The MKE was extremely stiff to remove as well. I had mine converted by Hitec and put the B&T 12 inch can on. It's a little gassy but not terrible.
3/15/2025 5:04:52 PM EDT
[#20]
Thanks for the info!  I’ll swap it with my broad river tactical one.
3/17/2025 2:56:41 PM EDT
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Picked up my SD+brace package today!  Looks pretty awesome with my Octane 45.  The Magpul brace isn’t as awful as I thought it would be.  I'll probably have Ralph Jr do the full SD conversion eventually but I'll sit on it as a future project after doing my AP53 SBR and a few other irons I have cooking in the fire.  Need to get the SD barrel and suppressor anyway.
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3/17/2025 4:07:15 PM EDT
[#22]
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Got my conversion back from HiTech, using their 12" suppressor.

Now just need to file the Form1.
"My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori." -Wilfred Owen
3/17/2025 9:14:24 PM EDT
[#23]
Shot my converted AP5SD alongside my CZ Scorpion this weekend.  Fixed stock on the SD with 12" B&T can, folding stock on the CZ with no can.  The difference was drastic.  The SD was so smooth it felt like a 22.  No muzzle rise, stayed on target, and no bolt slam.  CZ felt so unrefined in comparison.
3/24/2025 4:09:00 PM EDT
[#24]
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Originally Posted By triode:
Shot my converted AP5SD alongside my CZ Scorpion this weekend.  Fixed stock on the SD with 12" B&T can, folding stock on the CZ with no can.  The difference was drastic.  The SD was so smooth it felt like a 22.  No muzzle rise, stayed on target, and no bolt slam.  CZ felt so unrefined in comparison.
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@triode

All you needed was a barrel swap for the B&t suppressor to fit? Nothing with the charging handle/support needed modified?
3/24/2025 6:37:29 PM EDT
[#25]
@tigerhawk

The smith said there was minor rubbing with the cocking tube support, and he trimmed and reparkerized it as part of the conversion.
3/26/2025 3:36:15 PM EDT
[#26]
I received the shipping notice on my Broad River Tactical adapter - it was originally due to arrive today but UPS was too lazy to put it on the truck.  Should have it in hand tomorrow.  Anyone else get theirs?
3/26/2025 6:14:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hecklerjones][Edited] [#27]
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Originally Posted By triode:
I received the shipping notice on my Broad River Tactical adapter - it was originally due to arrive today but UPS was too lazy to put it on the truck.  Should have it in hand tomorrow.  Anyone else get theirs?
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I got mine for the Wolfman today, unfortunately the cocking tube support won't go all the way forward and gouged the adapter and the Wolfman rubbed the cocking  tube going on.  This is with an RCM SD cocking tube support. This gun was welded with the tube at a down angle or the cage funky. It is a pretty ugly fit.

The Wolfman fit in there with the tri lug barrel  but the tri lug was ridiculously loose and would've caused a baffle strike.

It sucks because I think the Wolfman would be quieter than the 500 versions of 1992 star baffle by B&T. I have an MP7 compact can and a TP380 can and of course the 12" SD can, all star baffles.

I would've been ahead to just skip the Turkish  crap and send in my POF for conversion.
I think the depressed economy in Turkey is taking it's toll on the quality.
3/27/2025 10:31:38 PM EDT
[#28]
I test fit my adapter tonight. It is a close fit, and as long as I install it with the charging handle forward it does not rub.  

The smith that did my barrel reprofiled the cocking mechanism which probably helped.

I did an alignment check and it all looked good.  I applied some high temp blue locktite and will test it this weekend.  I have some pictures that I will post in the morning.
3/27/2025 10:39:33 PM EDT
[#29]
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After a whopping 1 day approval time, I slapped an Obsidian 45 on the SD and Obsidian 9 on the P. Life is good.
If you travel faster than the speed of light, you'll always live in the dark.
3/28/2025 12:12:54 AM EDT
[#30]

4 day form 1. It’ll be a true sd someday, but I’m happy with it for now.
3/28/2025 9:02:55 AM EDT
[#31]
Here are some pictures of the Broad River Tactical suppressor adapter.  As noted above, it just fit and the alignment is spot on.  Overall looks very well made.

Installed in gun for test fit with Omega 9K:

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Adapter and suppressor (and Loctite I used - this is the stuff DA recommends.  Medium strength / high temp; I got it on Amazon):

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Diameter comparison with B&T Suppressor:

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3/28/2025 2:22:12 PM EDT
[#32]
I got my BRT adapters yesterday but havent gotten my AP5SD back from conversion.
3/28/2025 10:35:24 PM EDT
[#33]
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Originally Posted By CaptShiess:
https://i.imgur.com/j8HmPF2.jpeg
4 day form 1. It’ll be a true sd someday, but I’m happy with it for now.
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Awesome! What can is that? It looks just about perfect match for a k style sd can while not needing to be an actual SD
3/29/2025 7:52:39 PM EDT
[#34]
Dang. You guys are costing me money!

Purchased the ap5-sd with Magpul brace.  

My plan is to order the BRT wolfman hub and try that out. If I like it just go with that over a sd can.

Now for the sd barrel swap. I see these are the 3 guys most have used.. Any other recommendations? I would rather just send the ap5-sd off and not have to worry about buying the parts and sending with.

- Bahnhoff
- Ralph Jr
- Hitecarms



3/29/2025 7:54:09 PM EDT
[#35]
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Originally Posted By G3k:


Awesome! What can is that? It looks just about perfect match for a k style sd can while not needing to be an actual SD
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Originally Posted By G3k:
Originally Posted By CaptShiess:
https://i.imgur.com/j8HmPF2.jpeg
4 day form 1. It’ll be a true sd someday, but I’m happy with it for now.


Awesome! What can is that? It looks just about perfect match for a k style sd can while not needing to be an actual SD


That looks like the dead air wolfman.
3/29/2025 8:46:06 PM EDT
[#36]
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Originally Posted By hawkin:
Dang. You guys are costing me money!

Purchased the ap5-sd with Magpul brace.  

My plan is to order the BRT wolfman hub and try that out. If I like it just go with that over a sd can.

Now for the sd barrel swap. I see these are the 3 guys most have used.. Any other recommendations? I would rather just send the ap5-sd off and not have to worry about buying the parts and sending with.

- Bahnhoff
- Ralph Jr
- Hitecarms



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HiTech had my gun back to me in 2 weeks.
"My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori." -Wilfred Owen
3/29/2025 9:51:11 PM EDT
[#37]
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Originally Posted By Bye_Felicia:


HiTech had my gun back to me in 2 weeks.
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Originally Posted By Bye_Felicia:
Originally Posted By hawkin:
Dang. You guys are costing me money!

Purchased the ap5-sd with Magpul brace.  

My plan is to order the BRT wolfman hub and try that out. If I like it just go with that over a sd can.

Now for the sd barrel swap. I see these are the 3 guys most have used.. Any other recommendations? I would rather just send the ap5-sd off and not have to worry about buying the parts and sending with.

- Bahnhoff
- Ralph Jr
- Hitecarms





HiTech had my gun back to me in 2 weeks.

About the same for Bahnhoff.  I bought and sent the barrel, locking peice, and gasket; he might be able to provide (I did not ask).  Barrel direct from RCM was best price.

Just got the second gun back; all good.
3/29/2025 9:54:22 PM EDT
[#38]
Tested my BRT adapter today with my Omega 9k.  Hard to say for sure (indoor range with hearing pro) but it sounded comparable to my short B&T can.  A little more gassy.  Functioned 100%.
3/30/2025 4:17:05 PM EDT
[#39]
Anyone run one with a registered sear yet?
3/30/2025 4:21:52 PM EDT
[#40]
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Originally Posted By hawkin:
Anyone run one with a registered sear yet?
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It's a bit of a PITA due to the carrier block welded into all the Turkish guns. You need a carrier modified with a removable trip.
3/30/2025 6:36:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: hawkin][Edited] [#41]
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Originally Posted By mak0:


It's a bit of a PITA due to the carrier block welded into all the Turkish guns. You need a carrier modified with a removable trip.
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Disregard.
4/7/2025 3:36:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: hawkin][Edited] [#42]
Mine showed up today! Ordered the sd with Magpul brace. So far everything looks good. Rear of receiver is straight and brace comes off with a little tap, carrier comes out easily. Dead Air Wolfman fits nicely with even space all around. Going to clean the barrel and run out for a quick test fire.

RCM SD barrel should be showing up today that I purchased off the EE. 115 degree locking piece and o-ring should be on the way from RCM.

Armament USA modified RCM carrier and the BRT wolfman hub adapter are on back order. When those arrive, it’s off too Bahnhof Machine to work his magic.
4/8/2025 5:22:49 PM EDT
[#43]
I picked up my Hitech arms 12" suppressor on Sunday and just got the message that my SD is heading back from barrel swop.

SD locking piece and seal are sitting on my work bench ready to go.

Im excited
4/8/2025 10:22:02 PM EDT
[#44]
Picked up my HTA suppressors last night; bought the 9 and 12 inch.  They offer a nice package - good pouch, spanner wrench, and o-rings.  Plus their cans are user serviceable.  B&T suppressors just had a cardboard box.  
4/8/2025 10:28:41 PM EDT
[#45]
Picture is worth a 1000 words...

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4/11/2025 4:00:57 PM EDT
[#46]
Been a long time since I watched Navy Seals. Watched it last night. I need one of these now.
5/30/2025 2:22:45 PM EDT
[#47]
Just got my SD from Atlantic and preparing to send to HiTec for the conversion and 12"can ..... hoping for a quick turnaround on everything.
5/30/2025 2:38:40 PM EDT
[#48]
If the HPA passes, being able to buy a factory correct SD will be pretty cool.
6/1/2025 4:36:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FantasticPlastic:
If the HPA passes, being able to buy a factory correct SD will be pretty cool.
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Imagine that - Just like buying a car "with" a muffler.  It is about time.  

So this law if it goes through would permit imported suppressors as well correct?  or as firearms do they need 922R compliance
6/3/2025 9:41:50 AM EDT
[#50]
For anyone interested, a fully converted AP5-SD (to have the SD barrel, locking piece and suppressor) will run with a Super Safety.
"My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori." -Wilfred Owen

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