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Posted: 12/30/2024 9:14:49 PM EDT
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MKE/Century AP5-SD Pistol s have landed in the states and offer roller lock shooters another unique offering to consider. QUICK LOOK: The AP5-SD from MKE      |
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| Depends on what’s under those SD handguards…. Actual SD shroud…not bad. Some jury rigged shit? No cheaper than taking a standard full size and having the front end converted. No actual SD barrel was a solid fail. They should have done a fake SD can over the standard SD ported barrel. Opportunity missed. |
If I have to describe my disappointment seeing those pics it would be something like seeing a smoking hot Turkish German mixed chick at the bar and as I’m getting closer about to make moves to take her home I see exposing nuts sack (aka the trilug barrel).. 
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Originally Posted By T-Minus: So . . . . Not an SD at all. It's technically a reverse stretch but with the SD shroud and cocking tube. Kind of a mishmash of parts, but it makes financial sense to get this over anything else as a base for a true SD conversion. |
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Originally Posted By mak0: It's technically a reverse stretch but with the SD shroud and cocking tube. Kind of a mishmash of parts, but it makes financial sense to get this over anything else as a base for a true SD conversion. I don't disagree, but I think it's misleading AF for them to call it an "SD" when it is so clearly not. Allow me to introduce you to my Gen 5 Glock 26 MOS: 
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Originally Posted By snaggletooth1925: Can the faux can be permanently pinned? Does this bring the barrel and OAL into non-nfa territory? I'm sure it's possible, however it would be a challenge drilling and welding it because the shroud is in the way Looking at the photo it looks like it might be a little short of 16" anyway |
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Originally Posted By CaptShiess: Any chance there is a pic floating around of one with a dead air wolfman? It’s fatter than some cans and might look the “SD” part. Just wondering if it’ll fit inside the cage. Actual SD cans are 1.57" so anything that diameter or smaller should be fine. The Wolfman is a little thicker than that. I don't know the exact ID of the shroud off the top of my head but there is some extra clearance with a standard SD can so the Wolfman may fit. If I had to guess the ID of the shroud is probably something like 1.7 or 1.8", so it'll *probably* be ok. |
| The diameter of the cage is not the only issue, the cocking tube support hangs lower into the cage, not by a lot but 40mm or 1.5748" is the max size I would want to attempt to put in there. The Wolfman is 1.625" in diameter. You can try it but you might be in for a nasty gouge in the side of the can. |
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Originally Posted By mak0: I'm sure it's possible, however it would be a challenge drilling and welding it because the shroud is in the way Looking at the photo it looks like it might be a little short of 16" anyway Looks like you could just go through one of the cutout underneath the removable hand guard? Just need the right length faux can? Could be difficult but pricey but that never stopped me from expanding my collection. To bad I cant get one with a real can instead |
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Originally Posted By mak0: Hi-tec Arms is offering a conversion service for $500 or a package deal for $1200 including the suppressor Originally Posted By mak0: Originally Posted By FrankW134: How expensive will it be to swap the barrel for an SD barrel? Hi-tec Arms is offering a conversion service for $500 or a package deal for $1200 including the suppressor I sold an APC9SD and kept the can, just want a cheaper host than the >$6k offering from arms unlimited. I'll check them out. |
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Originally Posted By N4KVE: I’m bummed that in the video Matt did not use subsonic ammo when he tested the gun with real a suppressor. Seemed as loud as the first test with the faux suppressor. GARY Not sure why that's a disappointment . . . there are dozens of other videos (from Atlantic and others) that have suppressed AP5s with Subs. THAT'S ALL THAT THIS IS. It will sound identical to any other AP5 suppressed. |
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Originally Posted By sparky923: Needs to be less than 40mm IIRC. Originally Posted By sparky923: Originally Posted By CaptShiess: Any chance there is a pic floating around of one with a dead air wolfman? It’s fatter than some cans and might look the “SD” part. Just wondering if it’ll fit inside the cage. Needs to be less than 40mm IIRC. Wolf and my SD- wolf is 41mm  ETA- this isn’t a ap5sd |
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Originally Posted By Gibbles: Out of stock at Atlantic, can't wait for mine to arrive.  They were more popular than we expected and have another shipment on the way to us now. MKE is only making small runs of these each time as most of their production is geared towards the AP5 5 & AP 5P core pistols. |
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Originally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS: They were more popular than we expected and have another shipment on the way to us now. MKE is only making small runs of these each time as most of their production is geared towards the AP5 5 & AP 5P core pistols. Hope I can hit the next batch! |
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Originally Posted By Shadyman: Atlantic Please bother MKE to build some HK33k pistols and HK33 rifles. The GunBroker prices are stupid for those. In recent years, import officials have frequently denied requests for pistols with barrels exceeding 10 12 inches, especially in rifle calibers. There is hope that the new administration may lead to improved cooperation and more favorable outcomes for these requests. HG7886MB-N |
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Originally Posted By kells81: My SD came in and I can confirm that the Wolfman will fit this weapon. It has an even larger opening than my home built SD. https://www.hkpro.com/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=1920,fit=scale-down/https://www.hkpro.com/attachments/img_8580-jpeg.454114/ Why did you have to confirm this!!! Now I’ll have to get one :( |
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Originally Posted By CaptShiess: Why did you have to confirm this!!! Now I’ll have to get one :( Originally Posted By CaptShiess: Originally Posted By kells81: My SD came in and I can confirm that the Wolfman will fit this weapon. It has an even larger opening than my home built SD. https://www.hkpro.com/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=1920,fit=scale-down/https://www.hkpro.com/attachments/img_8580-jpeg.454114/ Why did you have to confirm this!!! Now I’ll have to get one :( In case you were wondering the Primal fits also.  
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Originally Posted By kells81: In case you were wondering the Primal fits also. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/43495/IMG_8584-3427600.jpg Something about this doesn't sit right with me. If I remember correctly, there were some major problems at the beginning of the MP5SD program, and they had to go back to the drawing board. Hold on . . . (goes to Youtube Ian). Yeah, look at the cross section of the actual SD can. Look at the metal reinforcement around the vented section of the barrel. That section is taking *a lot* of heat, and I'm assuming that's why it's so overbuilt there. But it also acts to absorb heat from the rest of the can. Contrast that with the very narrow-fit of the DA cans above. Maybe it's much ado about nothing, but I wonder if a lot of buyers will be experiencing the reality of what it's like to have your hand (or polymer) right above the junction of an unvented barrel and a silencer. I wonder at what temp that plastic will deform. 
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Originally Posted By T-Minus: Something about this doesn't sit right with me. If I remember correctly, there were some major problems at the beginning of the MP5SD program, and they had to go back to the drawing board. Hold on . . . (goes to Youtube Ian). Yeah, look at the cross section of the actual SD can. Look at the metal reinforcement around the vented section of the barrel. That section is taking *a lot* of heat, and I'm assuming that's why it's so overbuilt there. But it also acts to absorb heat from the rest of the can. Contrast that with the very narrow-fit of the DA cans above. Maybe it's much ado about nothing, but I wonder if a lot of buyers will be experiencing the reality of what it's like to have your hand (or polymer) right above the junction of an unvented barrel and a silencer. I wonder at what temp that plastic will deform. https://i.postimg.cc/cLTfW1HV/temp-Imagegx1k3c.avif Originally Posted By T-Minus: Originally Posted By kells81: In case you were wondering the Primal fits also. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/43495/IMG_8584-3427600.jpg Something about this doesn't sit right with me. If I remember correctly, there were some major problems at the beginning of the MP5SD program, and they had to go back to the drawing board. Hold on . . . (goes to Youtube Ian). Yeah, look at the cross section of the actual SD can. Look at the metal reinforcement around the vented section of the barrel. That section is taking *a lot* of heat, and I'm assuming that's why it's so overbuilt there. But it also acts to absorb heat from the rest of the can. Contrast that with the very narrow-fit of the DA cans above. Maybe it's much ado about nothing, but I wonder if a lot of buyers will be experiencing the reality of what it's like to have your hand (or polymer) right above the junction of an unvented barrel and a silencer. I wonder at what temp that plastic will deform. https://i.postimg.cc/cLTfW1HV/temp-Imagegx1k3c.avif Many a shooter has done the “sd” style handguard with hotter calibers than just 9mm. I’ve never had a handguard (colt 9mm style sd upper) get too hot. This version has the length of a k barrel so there really isn’t much under the handguard anyway. A true sd supressor goes all the way back to the ports so I could see heat (in full auto) being an issue possibly. As far as these, I doubt (outside of full auto stings maybe) that anyone will experience any excessive heat no matter what can they’ll use. |
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Originally Posted By T-Minus: Something about this doesn't sit right with me. If I remember correctly, there were some major problems at the beginning of the MP5SD program, and they had to go back to the drawing board. Hold on . . . (goes to Youtube Ian). Yeah, look at the cross section of the actual SD can. Look at the metal reinforcement around the vented section of the barrel. That section is taking *a lot* of heat, and I'm assuming that's why it's so overbuilt there. But it also acts to absorb heat from the rest of the can. Contrast that with the very narrow-fit of the DA cans above. Maybe it's much ado about nothing, but I wonder if a lot of buyers will be experiencing the reality of what it's like to have your hand (or polymer) right above the junction of an unvented barrel and a silencer. I wonder at what temp that plastic will deform. https://i.postimg.cc/cLTfW1HV/temp-Imagegx1k3c.avif Originally Posted By T-Minus: Originally Posted By kells81: In case you were wondering the Primal fits also. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/43495/IMG_8584-3427600.jpg Something about this doesn't sit right with me. If I remember correctly, there were some major problems at the beginning of the MP5SD program, and they had to go back to the drawing board. Hold on . . . (goes to Youtube Ian). Yeah, look at the cross section of the actual SD can. Look at the metal reinforcement around the vented section of the barrel. That section is taking *a lot* of heat, and I'm assuming that's why it's so overbuilt there. But it also acts to absorb heat from the rest of the can. Contrast that with the very narrow-fit of the DA cans above. Maybe it's much ado about nothing, but I wonder if a lot of buyers will be experiencing the reality of what it's like to have your hand (or polymer) right above the junction of an unvented barrel and a silencer. I wonder at what temp that plastic will deform. https://i.postimg.cc/cLTfW1HV/temp-Imagegx1k3c.avif Those are also machineguns, that’s probably a factor. |
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Originally Posted By fivepointoh: Anybody have an R9 to throw on one? Just curious how short it would look. Or if it would even fit. R9 is thinner than the Wolfman so it should fit no problem if the Wolfman fits. It's actually slightly thinner than a standard MP5SD suppressor too. |
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Originally Posted By Falfreak: @ATLANTIC-FIREARMS Any ballpark idea when the next batch of AP5-SDs is due to arrive? The AP5 SD are in transit to our facility but the snow strom in the NE will probably slow things down a bit. Hopefully they will arrive before the end of the week. HG7886-N |
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Having a few minutes today to look over it a bit more today. My mag catch has the typical slop, but it's rock solid with the bolt closed. I can push up a little with the bolt open and it's so tight there it can hang up on the carrier. From other postings a while back, I'm calling that a win. It's even tighter than my other two that run 100% flawlessly. The ejector also has also been updated, they now have the angle like you see on the hk replacements. And the finish is much better on that ejector, almost shiny black vs dull black. With the ambi safety, i had some issues getting it back in after removal, doing some research i found the right side had a small burr. A little light sanding to smooth it out and its fixed. My ffl also noted that it had the 4 position trigger housing, and he made the special note "the selector won't move to those positions".  Nice old guy, but he sat on this thing for like 4-5hrs. Usually he calls me within an hour of delivery. I figure he just wanted to check it out, usually he likes to play with the cooler guns that come his way. Chatting with him it sounds like most people do .22s and boring stuff. With me, it's mostly surplus with the occasional cool shit. The last cooler gun that passed through was a ps90. He let me know he has an ar57 and thought the fn was cool. He also had that one for a few extra hours. Or he needed to contact someone to verify it was legal, idnk.  |
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Originally Posted By aksahsalahs: Picked mine up earlier this week, Any recommendations on the barrel swap? I've got a RCM SD barrel incoming and want to get this set up proper. Check out hkralphjr/Anubis Armory. He did a full SD conversion for me a few years ago and was fast, good pricing, and nicely done. |
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I had a chance to run my ap5-sd over the weekend as delivered. It ran great, i skipped my usual hk ejector as it appeared the ambi pack it came with was already updated with the angle. It ran perfectly on both hk mags and mke, i put a solid 13 mags through it with no issues. I also watched the ejection path and confirmed it's not doing anything weird like hitting the ejection port. I'm happy, and it saves me some $$ since the hk parts are no longer $40. The best part, the front sight is straight. I didn't need to do any adjustments out of the box. 
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