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9/5/2018 11:10:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By eMc9001:
Yep its the FH762SV
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Originally Posted By lonewolfgun:
What model of Surefire muzzle brake/flash hider is used on the Mk20? is it the FH762SV
Yep its the FH762SV
What color of FA762SV was issued with the Mk20. Black or Tan. Or what color is preferred?
9/6/2018 8:38:22 AM EDT
[#2]
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Originally Posted By lonewolfgun:
What color of FA762SV was issued with the Mk20. Black or Tan. Or what color is preferred?
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Originally Posted By lonewolfgun:
Originally Posted By eMc9001:
Originally Posted By lonewolfgun:
What model of Surefire muzzle brake/flash hider is used on the Mk20? is it the FH762SV
Yep its the FH762SV
What color of FA762SV was issued with the Mk20. Black or Tan. Or what color is preferred?
FA762SV was issued in Black with the Mk20's.

Stephen
9/9/2018 10:06:55 AM EDT
[#3]
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Originally Posted By eMc9001:
https://i.imgur.com/YSrZMLI.jpg
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There seems to be a decent amount of KDG stocks in the wild.  I like it.  *screw cant RReeeeEEEEeeeEEE*
9/9/2018 10:20:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By byou79:

There seems to be a decent amount of KDG stocks in the wild.  I like it.  *screw cant RReeeeEEEEeeeEEE*
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Lol.  The screw cant thing doesn’t bother me, I just don’t like the difference in cheek weld height, wish it was higher like factory boot.
9/9/2018 1:36:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SSD13][Edited] [#5]
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Originally Posted By byou79:

There seems to be a decent amount of KDG stocks in the wild.  I like it.  *screw cant RReeeeEEEEeeeEEE*
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I've seen just one.  The same gun is pictured three times in this thread, if I'm not mistaken.

Edited to add:  The "A1" gun.
9/9/2018 2:40:14 PM EDT
[#6]
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Originally Posted By SSD13:

I've seen just one.  The same gun is pictured three times in this thread, if I'm not mistaken.

Edited to add:  The "A1" gun.
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Yeah I have posted a few diff views of that gun.
9/13/2018 3:11:16 PM EDT
[#7]
What reticle is being used in the Razor hd 1-6?  Are these unit purchases or individual purchases?
9/13/2018 5:02:41 PM EDT
[#8]
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Originally Posted By SSD13:
I've seen just one.  The same gun is pictured three times in this thread, if I'm not mistaken.
Edited to add:  The "A1" gun.
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Originally Posted By SSD13:
Originally Posted By byou79:
There seems to be a decent amount of KDG stocks in the wild.  I like it.  *screw cant RReeeeEEEEeeeEEE*
I've seen just one.  The same gun is pictured three times in this thread, if I'm not mistaken.
Edited to add:  The "A1" gun.
Here's a few more on different rifles. There are most likely others we just don't have pictures of.













Originally Posted By LsuJon:
What reticle is being used in the Razor hd 1-6?  Are these unit purchases or individual purchases?
Hard to say for sure. I would assume most of the Razors you see were individually procured. However, there have certainly been unit purchases of LPVO's like this Leupold Mk6 for instance.

9/13/2018 10:55:22 PM EDT
[#9]
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Originally Posted By Kalmar:

Here's a few more on different rifles. There are most likely others we just don't have pictures of.

https://i.imgur.com/XEis9kY.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/iWGtAkw.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/sFKUjEj.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/fcqyzla.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/d63Rp5M.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zQygXh1.jpg

Hard to say for sure. I would assume most of the Razors you see were individually procured. However, there have certainly been unit purchases of LPVO's like this Leupold Mk6 for instance.

https://i.imgur.com/xcDr0RM.jpg
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Awesome.  Thanks for the pics.
9/29/2018 9:30:27 AM EDT
[#10]
FN SCAR MK 17 MOD 0 CQC: Elcan SpecterDR SU-230C w/ Insight MRDS, ATPIAL-C & WMX200, Geissele SST (1st Gen), Magpul SSG Safety Selectors, FN ECP Flash Hider
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9/29/2018 9:48:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brodband8][Edited] [#11]
nice
10/1/2018 11:02:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Great_Balls_of_Fire][Edited] [#12]
It's a work in progress, but I managed to piece together this build over the last few weeks (I'm still looking for a NF pattern Wilcox Docter/MRDS mount):
- 16" SCAR17
- Geissele 2-Stage SCAR Trigger
- PWS Rail Extension
- FH762SV-SCAR Flash Hider
- Surefire FA762SV Suppressor
- Nightforce 2.5-10x24 Scope (1.5" NF Rings)
- L3 MRDS in Larue MRDS Mount
- ATLAS B10 Bipod & ARMS 17S Mount
- PEQ15

SCAR17 by Black Rifle, on Flickr
IG @MTxTwelve
10/1/2018 12:41:50 PM EDT
[#13]
Wow. Nice.
10/1/2018 3:23:06 PM EDT
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I’ll be waiting for the regular 20S but this is good news for folks who want the MK20.
10/1/2018 3:50:14 PM EDT
[#15]
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Originally Posted By MCDXXV:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/209294/67B1198E-7C08-430A-998B-6EFFD08918BD-689398.JPG

I’ll be waiting for the regular 20S but this is good news for folks who want the MK20.
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I wonder what streetp price/availability on the normal one is going to be?  Also not knowing how long I will need to wait to get one if I don't get this one has me wanting to order this kit lol
10/1/2018 9:48:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By brodband8:

I wonder what streetp price/availability on the normal one is going to be?  Also not knowing how long I will need to wait to get one if I don't get this one has me wanting to order this kit lol
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From my source (who’s intel was right about the LE kit ) says 6000 total units coming. 200 LE and 5800 standards. $3999 for the standard and shipping sometime in November.
10/1/2018 9:52:44 PM EDT
[#17]
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Originally Posted By MCDXXV:

From my source (who’s intel was right about the LE kit ) says 6000 total units coming. 200 LE and 5800 standards. $3999 for the standard and shipping sometime in November.
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10/1/2018 11:50:27 PM EDT
[#18]
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Originally Posted By MCDXXV:

From my source (who’s intel was right about the LE kit ) says 6000 total units coming. 200 LE and 5800 standards. $3999 for the standard and shipping sometime in November.
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Who's your source?  Mo yunis who is an FN sales rep said they haven't even released an MSRP yet for the standard.
10/2/2018 12:09:55 PM EDT
[#19]
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Originally Posted By brodband8:

Who's your source?  Mo yunis who is an FN sales rep said they haven't even released an MSRP yet for the standard.
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I can’t divulge. I’d imagine Mo Yunis knows he just doesn’t comment on it.
10/3/2018 3:50:38 PM EDT
[#20]
the question is......are they gonna release more after the limited edition?  im not too concerned abpout price.
10/4/2018 8:16:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2107][Edited] [#21]
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Originally Posted By MCDXXV:

From my source (who's intel was right about the LE kit ) says 6000 total units coming. 200 LE and 5800 standards. $3999 for the standard and shipping sometime in November.
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I wonder which dealers will be getting the largest allotment of standard model 20S...
@MCDXXV
“Don’t act like you’re not impressed.”
10/5/2018 4:59:53 AM EDT
[#22]
Well used and fully functional...….
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CD
De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16'
Afganistan: 09,10,11',14',17' & 18'
10/5/2018 6:34:54 PM EDT
[#23]
@Combat_Diver

What suppressors are you seeing most often on these 17s/20s? I've been told the 762SVs were issued, but I've also been told everything is being phased out for 762 SOCOM RCs. And add a little of FN's proprietary suppressor, too.

Wondering what would be most correct for a mk20, in particular when us grubby civilians get em.
WTB:
- Wilcox Micro Reflex Sight mount for NF Rings
- EOTech FDE XPS 3-0
10/5/2018 11:37:01 PM EDT
[#24]
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Originally Posted By vanquishings:
@Combat_Diver

What suppressors are you seeing most often on these 17s/20s? I've been told the 762SVs were issued, but I've also been told everything is being phased out for 762 SOCOM RCs. And add a little of FN's proprietary suppressor, too.

Wondering what would be most correct for a mk20, in particular when us grubby civilians get em.
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I'll have to get back to you on that.

CD
De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16'
Afganistan: 09,10,11',14',17' & 18'
10/9/2018 7:20:38 PM EDT
[#25]
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
I'll have to get back to you on that.

CD
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Originally Posted By vanquishings:
@Combat_Diver

What suppressors are you seeing most often on these 17s/20s? I've been told the 762SVs were issued, but I've also been told everything is being phased out for 762 SOCOM RCs. And add a little of FN's proprietary suppressor, too.

Wondering what would be most correct for a mk20, in particular when us grubby civilians get em.
I'll have to get back to you on that.

CD
762 SOCOMs would make getting a correct can much easier. Unless the 4P is used.
10/9/2018 8:06:45 PM EDT
[#26]
CSR with brake and SOCOM can.

10/9/2018 9:09:14 PM EDT
[#27]
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Originally Posted By usnguns:
CSR with brake and SOCOM can.

http://i.imgur.com/Jb6I0AA.jpg
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Thanks for sharing that. Have any experience with the FN can? Curious how it stacks up to the 2 SF cans.
WTB:
- Wilcox Micro Reflex Sight mount for NF Rings
- EOTech FDE XPS 3-0
10/9/2018 10:41:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MCDXXV][Edited] [#28]
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Originally Posted By usnguns:
CSR with brake and SOCOM can.

http://i.imgur.com/Jb6I0AA.jpg
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Neat. Thanks.

ETA: I assume one of those is a T1 mount on there?
10/10/2018 2:52:39 AM EDT
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10/11/2018 8:37:13 AM EDT
[#30]
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Originally Posted By vanquishings:
@Combat_Diver

What suppressors are you seeing most often on these 17s/20s? I've been told the 762SVs were issued, but I've also been told everything is being phased out for 762 SOCOM RCs. And add a little of FN's proprietary suppressor, too.

Wondering what would be most correct for a mk20, in particular when us grubby civilians get em.
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MK17 from todays inspection.
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Seems to be the FN suppressor.  Haven't seen any Mk20s this rotation.

CD
De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16'
Afganistan: 09,10,11',14',17' & 18'
10/11/2018 3:27:41 PM EDT
[#31]
Couple ex team dudes talking about the 17 and why they don't like it. Basic summary is that it's accurate, but unreliable in dirty environments. Can was heavy and sucked (assume they're talking about the FN can, not the AAC)

Why Navy SEALs Hate the FN SCAR 17 - Vigilance Elite
10/11/2018 7:00:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MCDXXV][Edited] [#32]
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:

MK17 from todays inspection.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_5667-701459.JPG
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_5668-701461.JPG
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_5669-701463.JPG

Seems to be the FN suppressor.  Haven't seen any Mk20s this rotation.

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Thank cd. I like that guys setup.

Now I just need the can.

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10/11/2018 7:05:37 PM EDT
[#33]
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Originally Posted By MCDXXV:

Thank cd. I like that guys setup.

Now I just need the can.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/209294/EF41C95B-CDA1-43DA-984C-A61C2314CF48_jpeg-701898.JPG
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I like this setup better than your previous setup
PSALMS 144-1
10/11/2018 8:37:25 PM EDT
[#34]
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:

MK17 from todays inspection.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_5667-701459.JPG
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_5668-701461.JPG
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_5669-701463.JPG

Seems to be the FN suppressor.  Haven't seen any Mk20s this rotation.

CD
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Thanks for snapping a few shots for us! Still curious about the FN cans performance.

Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Couple ex team dudes talking about the 17 and why they don't like it. Basic summary is that it's accurate, but unreliable in dirty environments. Can was heavy and sucked (assume they're talking about the FN can, not the AAC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CCp5g4Zki8
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Could be the Surefire cans, too. Both the FA762SV and SOCOMs have been in use.
WTB:
- Wilcox Micro Reflex Sight mount for NF Rings
- EOTech FDE XPS 3-0
10/11/2018 11:22:56 PM EDT
[#35]
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Originally Posted By vanquishings:
Could be the Surefire cans, too. Both the FA762SV and SOCOMs have been in use.
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Despite hearing the notion repeated I have yet to see any evidence supporting that claim.
10/11/2018 11:37:34 PM EDT
[#36]
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Originally Posted By Kalmar:

Despite hearing the notion repeated I have yet to see any evidence supporting that claim.
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@Kalmar



From @usnguns unless someone already got a Mk20, ditched the unobtainium stock, rattle canned it, and is posting it online.

I’ve also heard it from dudes who know what they’re talking about and wouldn’t lie about it. Not to be 100% super secret squirrel about it.

I’m just unsure what’s issued and what’s unit purchases at this point. I’d have to think the whole “any suppressed use instantly voids the warranty” thing FN has going on is why were seeing FN suppressors out with these. Not that anyone’s worried about the warranty, but I can’t help but doubt FN suppressors perform any better than other suppressors that have NSNs.
WTB:
- Wilcox Micro Reflex Sight mount for NF Rings
- EOTech FDE XPS 3-0
10/12/2018 12:08:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: tanodized][Edited] [#37]
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Originally Posted By vanquishings:
https://i.imgur.com/Jb6I0AA_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
From @usnguns unless someone already got a Mk20, ditched the unobtainium stock, rattle canned it, and is posting it online.
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That rifle is a CSR-20, FN's submission to the CSASS program. It's not a Mk20, neither is it an issued weapon. As far as I'm concerned the video linked above showcased two "dudes who know what they’re talking about," except they clearly didn't. I'll accept the facts when distinct evidence is presented because hearsay is rather unconvincing.
10/12/2018 3:06:30 AM EDT
[#38]
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Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Couple ex team dudes talking about the 17 and why they don't like it. Basic summary is that it's accurate, but unreliable in dirty environments. Can was heavy and sucked (assume they're talking about the FN can, not the AAC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CCp5g4Zki8
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Wonder why SEALs are having issues with them while the SF isn't?  Everything is a trade off.  At the beginning they praise the lightweight but then add stuff to it to make it heavy then bitch about the weight.  For room clearing there's shorter barrels but those short barrels won't reach to 1000.  Everything is a trade off, plan accordingly.

CD
De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16'
Afganistan: 09,10,11',14',17' & 18'
10/12/2018 4:59:13 AM EDT
[#39]
I am going to guess that they were just worn out guns, not much different  than what happened with mk11/M110's back in the day.  While I think the Scar has a number of short comings, reliability isnt one of them as long as they are maintained.  It wouldn't surprise me if one of the teams had a more difficult time keep their Scars up vs a SF group.
10/17/2018 12:39:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 180A-MICP][Edited] [#40]
I'd say the reason ODA's have more success with the Mk.17 as apposed to NSW is the confidence I have in 18B's. Also with the UW mission set I find 18 series guys take better care of kit, a good team daddy is going to reinforce that team kit is what you go to war with, in this day and age an ODA WILL be isolated from friendly forces.  Cause they're gonna "use" it some day and it'll be all they have probably ever. Regiment and NSW seem to fucking wreck shit, then hit up the MFP 11 funds for new shit.
10/17/2018 8:17:19 AM EDT
[#41]
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Originally Posted By 180A-MICP:
I'd say the reason ODA's have more success with the Mk.17 as apposed to NSW is the confidence I have in 18B's. Also with the UW mission set I find 18 series guys take better care of kit, a good team daddy is going to reinforce that team kit is what you go to war with, in this day and age an ODA WILL be isolated from friendly forces.  Cause they're gonna "use" it some day and it'll be all they have probably ever. Regiment and NSW seem to fucking wreck shit, then hit up the MFP 11 funds for new shit.
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Been that way for decades.  Good post Chief.

CD
De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16'
Afganistan: 09,10,11',14',17' & 18'
10/21/2018 4:20:15 PM EDT
[#42]
Borrowed from Recoil's article for IDF sniper comp.  MK20 on deck.  Can anyone ID the optic?  I'm also assuming that the group is NSW based on AOR1, but the Helstar IFF light makes me question it.  Unless only one specific group of NSW uses S&S Manta's?

2018-IDF-Sniper-comp-9-958x542 by Edmond Dantes, on Flickr
10/21/2018 8:17:24 PM EDT
[#43]
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Originally Posted By TXDirtyMaxDiesel:
Borrowed from Recoil's article for IDF sniper comp.  MK20 on deck.  Can anyone ID the optic?  I'm also assuming that the group is NSW based on AOR1, but the Helstar IFF light makes me question it.  Unless only one specific group of NSW uses S&S Manta's?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1957/31604269748_a44cfbaf76_z.jpg2018-IDF-Sniper-comp-9-958x542 by Edmond Dantes, on Flickr
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MK6 with paint. +1 for accuracy
10/22/2018 11:34:30 AM EDT
[#44]
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Originally Posted By MCDXXV:

MK6 with paint. +1 for accuracy
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Wheres your paint at homie? MK6 is looking a little new over there.
- Selling left nut for a Wilcox NF T1/MRDS mount.
10/22/2018 1:22:38 PM EDT
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I’m in need of an opinion(s).

I’ve had a SCAR16S sitting in my safe for probably 18 months.  It’s brand new, hasn’t had a round fired through it.  I bought it from a member because it was a good deal and kinda forgot about it.

Recently, I’ve thought I might file a form 1 for it and build a MK16/CQC clone like in Page 1.

The thing about it is that the upper receiver is done in that really gold new anodizing they’ve been cranking out in the past few years.  It’s not the green-ish/more tan anodizing they used to be.

I’m wondering if this thing is just going to look awful and/or stupid as a clone if I decide to go down that road.  I’m sure it’s a fine rifle, but I’m not sure about the gold anodizing.

Disregard how it’s set up right now, as I know it’s nowhere near “correct”.  I snapped the pic right after I bought it and then put it away.  Should give you an idea of the anodizing

10/22/2018 3:04:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By david05111:
I’m in need of an opinion(s).

I’ve had a SCAR16S sitting in my safe for probably 18 months.  It’s brand new, hasn’t had a round fired through it.  I bought it from a member because it was a good deal and kinda forgot about it.

Recently, I’ve thought I might file a form 1 for it and build a MK16/CQC clone like in Page 1.

The thing about it is that the upper receiver is done in that really gold new anodizing they’ve been cranking out in the past few years.  It’s not the green-ish/more tan anodizing they used to be.

I’m wondering if this thing is just going to look awful and/or stupid as a clone if I decide to go down that road.  I’m sure it’s a fine rifle, but I’m not sure about the gold anodizing.

Disregard how it’s set up right now, as I know it’s nowhere near “correct”.  I snapped the pic right after I bought it and then put it away.  Should give you an idea of the anodizing

https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/f7e81dd96d946a949989fa6970dbe497/5C883842/t51.2885-15/e35/19985570_1530219823689430_2511208042998005760_n.jpg?se=7
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It will look fine. Once you get that 10" barrel in there you wont care about color anyways.
10/22/2018 5:58:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MCDXXV:

It will look fine. Once you get that 10" barrel in there you wont care about color anyways.
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Yeah I’m sure it’ll look cool, I’m just not sure if it’s just going to be glaringly clone “incorrect” in that color, if that makes any sense.  I’m not sure if I’d be better off to just sell it and look for one with a different color upper receiver.  I like this one, but I’m just not sure I can really get what I want out of it in the end.
10/22/2018 6:44:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By david05111:

Yeah I’m sure it’ll look cool, I’m just not sure if it’s just going to be glaringly clone “incorrect” in that color, if that makes any sense.  I’m not sure if I’d be better off to just sell it and look for one with a different color upper receiver.  I like this one, but I’m just not sure I can really get what I want out of it in the end.
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I don't think I've honestly seen two that look the same. Between the guys I shoot with regularly there are 5 17s and 4 16s and they all look different.
10/22/2018 7:13:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By david05111:
I’m wondering if this thing is just going to look awful and/or stupid as a clone if I decide to go down that road.
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The color is fine. It's that weird lump on the front of your magwell you should be worried about.
10/22/2018 10:30:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kalmar:

The color is fine. It's that weird lump on the front of your magwell you should be worried about.
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Are you talking about the flare at the front and bottom of th mag well?  All 16’s have that as far as I have seen.

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