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MCDXXV

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Posted: 4/11/2018 4:58:24 PM EDT

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The United States Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) issued a solicitation for a family of Special Operations Forces Combat Assault Rifles, the so-called SCAR, designed around two different calibers but featuring high commonality of parts and identical ergonomics.

The SCAR is manufactured in two main versions; the SCAR-L ("Light") and SCAR-H ("Heavy"). The SCAR-L fires 5.56×45mm NATO, fed from STANAG (M16) magazines. The SCAR-H fires the more powerful 7.62×51mm NATO from proprietary 20-round magazines. Different length barrels are available for close quarters battle and for longer-range engagements.

The Mk 16 was intended to replace the M4A1, the Mk 18 CQBR and the Mk 12 SPR, before SOCOM decided to cancel the order for the Mk 16 Mod 0. The Mk 17 will replace the M14 and Mk 11 sniper rifles. However, the weapon will only supplement other weapons while issuing remains at the operator's decision.

The Mk 20 Mod 0 Sniper Support Rifle (SSR) is based on the SCAR-H. It includes a longer receiver, a beefed up barrel extension and barrel profile to reduce whip and improve accuracy, and an enhanced modular trigger that can be configured for single-stage or two-stage operation together with either a folding or a non-folding precision stock.

MK16

MK17

MK20/SSR

Building a clone.

Barrel:
MK16 10" 14”, 18"
MK17 13", 16", 20”

Flash Hider:
MK16 AAC 18T Blackout
MK17 AAC 18T MITER, FN ECP
MK20 FA762SV

Suppressors:
MK16 AAC SCAR-SD
MK17 AAC SCAR-SD, FN Supressor
MK20 Surefire FH762SV-SCAR

Vertical grips
Tango down battle grip in tan
KAC

Rail panels:
Tango Down

Optics:
MK16
Elcan Specter DR SU-230
EOTech SU-231-PEQ (EOTech 553)
EOTech SU-231A-PEQ (EOTech EXPS03)
EOTech 3x magnifiers

MK17
Elcan Specter DR SU-230A
Nightforce 2.5-10x24
Nightforce 3.5-15x50
EOTech SU-231-PEQ (EOTech 553)
EOTech SU-231A-PEQ (EOTech EXPS03)
EOTech 3x magnifiers

MK20
Nightforce NXS 3.5-15
Vortex Razor HD 3-18 and 4.5-27
Leupold MK6 3-18 H59
Aimpoint T1/T2 offset and DAGR

IR Lasers:
Insight AN/PEQ-15/LA-5

Flashlight:
Insight M3 (SU-233/PVS)
Insight WMX200

MCDXXV Member Joined Jun 2009 Posts 8916 EE 100% (34) USA	Posted: 4/11/2018 5:25:03 PM EDT [Last Edit: MCDXXV] [#1] Photos of weapons in use.

prskiller Gun control is people control Joined Jun 2013 Posts 2570 EE 100% (144) USA	Posted: 4/11/2018 5:35:35 PM EDT [#2] Attached File Attached File Awesome thread, in on 1.
	PSALMS 144-1 Blessed be the Lord my strength, which teacheth my hands to warre, and my fingers to fight

MCDXXV Member Joined Jun 2009 Posts 8917 EE 100% (34) USA	Posted: 4/11/2018 5:57:19 PM EDT [Last Edit: MCDXXV] [#3] My clone and the rifle Im going for. I have the 13" barrel on standby just waiting on my stamp. Attached File Attached File Attached File

cmcflex Joined Mar 2009 Posts 4469 EE 100% (229) USA	Posted: 4/11/2018 6:29:08 PM EDT [Last Edit: cmcflex] [#4]

cmcflex Joined Mar 2009 Posts 4470 EE 100% (229) USA	Posted: 4/11/2018 6:29:42 PM EDT [Last Edit: cmcflex] [#5] NF 2.5-10x32 M0aR NSW SCARs: SCAR with what looks like a SureFire FA762K suppressor: ETA: another angle

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Combat_Diver

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Posted: 4/11/2018 10:53:16 PM EDT

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There are three barrels for both the Mk16 and Mk17s. You're missing the long 20" barrel for the Mk17 for 13" CQC, 16" (S) and 20" (LB) and Mk16 bbl lengths are 10" (CQC), 14" (S) and 18" (LB). Magazines issued were 20 and 30 rds for the Mk16 and 10/20 for the Mk17/20s.

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De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16'
Afganistan: 09,10,11',14',17' & 18'

Combat_Diver Team Member Joined Jan 2003 Posts 7959 EE 100% (87) AFG	Posted: 4/11/2018 11:04:16 PM EDT [#8] Attached File Attached File Attached File CD
	De Oppresso Liber Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16' Afganistan: 09,10,11',14',17' & 18'

Tengo1 Team Member Joined Feb 2009 Posts 1229 EE 100% (82) NV, USA	Posted: 4/12/2018 12:32:56 AM EDT [Last Edit: Tengo1] [#9] MK16's

Combat_Diver Team Member Joined Jan 2003 Posts 7961 EE 100% (87) AFG	Posted: 4/12/2018 12:34:05 AM EDT [Last Edit: Combat_Diver] [#10] Mk16 Mod 0 parts 14" Attached File Mk16 30 rd mags/ Mk17 pistol grip on a M4A1 10.3" URG Attached File Mk17 Mod 0 parts 13", 16" and 20" tubes Attached File Two FH have been used the AAC as seen on the Mk16 barrel above and standard FN seen on Mk17s. CD
	De Oppresso Liber Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16' Afganistan: 09,10,11',14',17' & 18'

Tengo1 Team Member Joined Feb 2009 Posts 1230 EE 100% (82) NV, USA	Posted: 4/12/2018 12:42:45 AM EDT [#11]

JsbsMarine Member Joined Apr 2007 Posts 1023 EE 100% (28) USA	Posted: 4/12/2018 1:02:42 AM EDT [#12] CD< what optic is that on top of hte m4a1? and can i visit your armory?

Liquid77 Joined Feb 2018 Posts 461 EE 100% (2) OK, USA	Posted: 4/12/2018 2:55:09 AM EDT [Last Edit: Liquid77] [#13] Love how FN continues to tease the MK20 SSR then it never happens. They got the Ballista over here but no MK20. @CD Is the 17 stock breaking and or lower problems overblown? Keep reading about it and scratching my head as I have yet to see one broken.

MCDXXV Member Joined Jun 2009 Posts 8927 EE 100% (34) USA	Posted: 4/12/2018 3:38:59 AM EDT [#14] Quote History Originally Posted By Liquid77: Love how FN continues to tease the MK20 SSR then it never happens. They got the Ballista over here but no MK20. @CD Is the 17 stock breaking and or lower problems overblown? Keep reading about it and scratching my head as I have yet to see one broken. View Quote I'm still holding out for a MK20/SSR

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Posted: 4/12/2018 3:40:14 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By JsbsMarine:
CD<
what optic is that on top of hte m4a1?
and can i visit your armory?

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3x scope from the M3 84mm Carl Gustav RCL, sure you can if you're in Astan

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Originally Posted By Liquid77:
Love how FN continues to tease the MK20 SSR then it never happens. They got the Ballista over here but no MK20.

@CD Is the 17 stock breaking and or lower problems overblown? Keep reading about it and scratching my head as I have yet to see one broken.

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Have had some broken ones in the demil bin but I've never replaced any in my 3 yrs here and there.

CD

De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16'
Afganistan: 09,10,11',14',17' & 18'

Liquid77 Joined Feb 2018 Posts 465 EE 100% (2) OK, USA	Posted: 4/12/2018 9:09:10 AM EDT [#16] Thanks for info!

BusterBrown Member Joined Oct 2004 Posts 594 EE 100% (43) SC, USA	Posted: 4/12/2018 12:12:42 PM EDT [#17] Quote History Originally Posted By AZJBT: I'm still holding out for a MK20/SSR View Quote Me too.

prskiller Gun control is people control Joined Jun 2013 Posts 2575 EE 100% (144) USA	Posted: 4/12/2018 12:13:11 PM EDT [#18] Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File
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Combat_Diver Team Member Joined Jan 2003 Posts 7964 EE 100% (87) AFG	Posted: 4/12/2018 1:11:43 PM EDT [Last Edit: Combat_Diver] [#19] Stuff from Kuwait/Iraq 15-16' Jeremy Mk17 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb8l8D9WgTE CD
	De Oppresso Liber Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16' Afganistan: 09,10,11',14',17' & 18'

cmcflex Joined Mar 2009 Posts 4471 EE 100% (229) USA	Posted: 4/12/2018 2:05:51 PM EDT [Last Edit: cmcflex] [#20] Quote History Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/IMG_0910_mk17.jpg View Quote Pretty cool to see the old school S&S Precision WeaponLink in use. Edit: pic thread

Tengo1 Team Member Joined Feb 2009 Posts 1232 EE 100% (82) NV, USA	Posted: 4/12/2018 11:27:16 PM EDT [#21]

fivepointoh Supporter of Q Joined Jan 2006 Posts 24890 EE 100% (118) USA	Posted: 4/13/2018 2:54:22 PM EDT [#22] Consider this a tag
	#MAGA

MCDXXV Member Joined Jun 2009 Posts 8928 EE 100% (34) USA	Posted: 4/13/2018 8:07:24 PM EDT [#23] @Combat_Diver do you have any insight as to who makes the rail extension on this 17? Or have you ever seen one? Interesting setup with the SSR stock as well. Attached File

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Posted: 4/13/2018 8:53:28 PM EDT

[#24]

That particular rail extension was a prototype for the FN SCAR-H PR before the product line eventually adopted the lengthened receiver from the Mk20/SSR. Apparently some made their way into the field for evaluation as well, though I doubt FN produced them in any significant number.

You can bet I'll be contributing my clones to this thread very soon, just waiting on a few UID stickers and a chance to take some decent pictures. Additionally, I have saved over 2GB worth of FN SCAR/GWOT photos spanning the past ten years. Eventually I plan to collect, catalog, and upload them all here. Meanwhile, if there's anything in particular that someone is interested in seeing, let me know and I'll do my best to dig it up.

JsbsMarine

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Posted: 4/14/2018 12:39:03 AM EDT

[#25]

Haha thanks for the feedback sir. Any idea why they used that scope?
Unfortunately my fun days in the DoD are all over. Im domestic only with DHS.... Booo. Thanks for the invite however.

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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:

3x scope from the M3 84mm Carl Gustav RCL, sure you can if you're in Astan

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/Carl_G_mod_demo-511406.JPG

Have had some broken ones in the demil bin but I've never replaced any in my 3 yrs here and there.

CD

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MCDXXV

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Posted: 4/14/2018 4:48:28 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Kalmar:
That particular rail extension was a prototype for the FN SCAR-H PR before the product line eventually adopted the lengthened receiver from the Mk20/SSR. Apparently some made their way into the field for evaluation as well, though I doubt FN produced them in any significant number.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2ex0bno.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/iddpwn.jpg

You can bet I'll be contributing my clones to this thread very soon, just waiting on a few UID stickers and a chance to take some decent pictures. Additionally, I have saved over 2GB worth of FN SCAR/GWOT photos spanning the past ten years. Eventually I plan to collect, catalog, and upload them all here. Meanwhile, if there's anything in particular that someone is interested in seeing, let me know and I'll do my best to dig it up.

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Looking forward to your contributions. Thanks for the insight on the rail extension.

Combat_Diver Team Member Joined Jan 2003 Posts 7972 EE 100% (87) AFG	Posted: 4/15/2018 6:19:15 AM EDT [Last Edit: Combat_Diver] [#27] Quote History Originally Posted By SSD13: https://i.imgur.com/qJpyRWm.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KxinaHC.jpg https://i.imgur.com/UBiV65X.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zTzSfBm.jpg https://i.imgur.com/0p19dfh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/cTTVGpN.jpg View Quote Repost https://i.imgur.com/cTTVGpN.jpg CD
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tanodized

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My first rifle, first clone, and first love. The purpose and configuration of this weapon have evolved through numerous iterations alongside my maturation as a shooter. Funny how after all those changes and nearly a decade later this gun ends up back to where it all started.

FN SCAR MK 16 MOD 0 CQC: EOTech SU-231, Insight ATPIAL-C & M3X VBLII w/ Dual Pressure Switch, Geissele SST (1st Gen), TangoDown VFG & SCAR Panels, AAC 18T Blackout Flash Hider

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Posted: 4/17/2018 11:15:35 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Kalmar:
My first rifle, first clone, and first love. The purpose and configuration of this weapon have evolved through numerous iterations alongside my maturation as a shooter. Funny how after all those changes and nearly a decade later this gun ends up back to where it all started.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/843/40620026945_291ae09b63_o.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/922/40800279354_f1d644b85b_o.jpg

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That sir, is a bad ass rifle!!!

beaverpelt Member Joined Mar 2005 Posts 9400 EE 100% (308) MO, USA	Posted: 4/18/2018 5:44:56 PM EDT [#31] Attached File

pezboytate They hold no quarter. Joined Nov 2007 Posts 3843 EE 100% (272) IN, USA	Posted: 4/18/2018 8:09:56 PM EDT [#32] Subscribed. I just saw a bunch of 18T MITERs on Instagram.

MCDXXV Member Joined Jun 2009 Posts 8936 EE 100% (34) USA	Posted: 4/19/2018 2:53:57 AM EDT [#33] Quote History Originally Posted By pezboytate: Subscribed. I just saw a bunch of 18T MITERs on Instagram. View Quote Not terribly priced either. Contemplating getting one for my 13” barrel.

tanodized

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Posted: 4/19/2018 4:17:54 PM EDT

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Jump on it, they're never going to be cheaper. When the commercial SCAR's first released, during the same time period I began cloning, those eighteen-toothed MITER's were impossible to acquire. I recall a Gunbroker listing for a half melted and shot out demo machine-gun barrel that auctioned for well north of $2000, solely because it had an 18T Blackout attached. Remember, you could buy the entire rifle for that much back then. Now that they are seemingly abundant I would urge you to take advantage of the surplus pricing. From what I can gather, the mounts currently on the market were salvaged from the infamous scrap heap of plasma torched barrels and suppressors being sold at Knob Creek. Once those are gone, I doubt we will be seeing any more surface from DRMO. Get 'em while you can.

#TBT when I could only find and afford a peasant tier 51T flash hider:

tanodized IG @tanodized Joined Oct 2008 Posts 2456 EE 100% (255) TX, USA	Posted: 4/22/2018 11:53:55 PM EDT [Last Edit: tanodized] [#35] FN SCAR MK 17 MOD 0 CQC: Nightforce NXS 2.5-10x24 w/ 1.375" Ultralight Rings & Wilcox MRDS Mount, Docter Sight II+, Insight ATPIAL-C w/ Pressure Switch, Geissele SST (1st Gen), TangoDown VFG & SCAR Panel, Atlas BT10 Bipod w/ A.R.M.S. 17S Mount, AAC 18T Blackout M.I.T.E.R. Flash Hider View Quote

minion42 Joined May 2014 Posts 2532 EE 100% (82) KY, USA	Posted: 4/23/2018 12:18:13 PM EDT [#36] Quote History Originally Posted By Kalmar: View Quote A thing of beauty.

SecretSquirell Member Joined Apr 2009 Posts 65584 EE 100% (26) IL, USA	Posted: 4/24/2018 1:34:00 AM EDT [#37] Quote History Originally Posted By Kalmar: https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/934/41569563212_c9dc2bbc2d_k.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/823/41569557472_b861f453ee_k.jpg View Quote 6 to midnight in .87 seconds
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Posted: 4/24/2018 5:42:46 AM EDT

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Looking at picking up a UID from Carolina and want to make sure I have the info right for a Scar 17. What do I need/ are these correct for the following?

MFG:
Part # MK 17 Mod 0
Serial # HC59xxx

If no longer needed do these come off relatively easy with a heat gun etc and not damage the white MFG lettering located between the two bolts?

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Originally Posted By Sogan:
Looking at picking up a UID from Carolina and want to make sure I have the info right for a Scar 17. What do I need/ are these correct for the following?

MFG:
Part # MK 17 Mod 0
Serial # HC59xxx

If no longer needed do these come off relatively easy with a heat gun etc and not damage the white MFG lettering located between the two bolts?

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MFG: B0897
Part # MK 17 Mod 0
Serial # HC59xxx

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pezboytate

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Not terribly priced either. Contemplating getting one for my 13” barrel.

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Originally Posted By pezboytate:
Subscribed. I just saw a bunch of 18T MITERs on Instagram.

Not terribly priced either. Contemplating getting one for my 13” barrel.

Just saw the price drop to $120 or $130.

SSD13 Joined Feb 2015 Posts 52 EE 100% (20) USA	Posted: 4/25/2018 8:29:01 AM EDT [Last Edit: SSD13] [#42] NF 2.5-10x24 RECON NAV SPEC with Docter, Wilcox Mount, and Badger Ordnance NSW EBR Rings.

Samson-Dogg Member Joined Jan 2013 Posts 3478 EE 100% (303) TX, USA	Posted: 4/26/2018 2:21:10 PM EDT [#43] Some of the best pics I’ve seen in ANY thread. Thanks to everyone for sharing.
	WTB: A.R.M.S #36 swan sleeve-PEQ-2 or MOD with no notches for gen 3 PRI tube

Tengo1 Team Member Joined Feb 2009 Posts 1246 EE 100% (82) NV, USA	Posted: 4/29/2018 1:42:51 AM EDT [#44]

Tengo1 Team Member Joined Feb 2009 Posts 1247 EE 100% (82) NV, USA	Posted: 4/29/2018 1:59:08 AM EDT [#45]

MCDXXV Member Joined Jun 2009 Posts 8953 EE 100% (34) USA	Posted: 5/8/2018 6:30:51 PM EDT [#46] Attached File

minion42 Joined May 2014 Posts 2556 EE 100% (82) KY, USA	Posted: 5/10/2018 10:35:38 AM EDT [#47] Quote History Originally Posted By AZJBT: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/209294/5D77D8AA-A93D-43B6-9A8F-365355D88166-537772.JPG View Quote Wow. That is really cool.

prskiller Member Joined Jun 2013 Posts 2652 EE 100% (144) USA	Posted: 5/10/2018 11:59:44 AM EDT [#48] Quote History Originally Posted By AZJBT: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/209294/5D77D8AA-A93D-43B6-9A8F-365355D88166-537772.JPG View Quote That guy looks like Dennis Quaid.
	PSALMS 144-1

MCDXXV Member Joined Jun 2009 Posts 8955 EE 100% (34) USA	Posted: 5/11/2018 2:44:13 AM EDT [#49] Quote History Originally Posted By minion42: Wow. That is really cool. View Quote Interesting Elcan riser

helmet91 Joined May 2016 Posts 1553 EE 100% (2) VA, USA	Posted: 5/11/2018 3:02:28 AM EDT [#50] Quote History Originally Posted By AZJBT: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/209294/5D77D8AA-A93D-43B6-9A8F-365355D88166-537772.JPG View Quote I didn't know OAM had SCAR-Hs... Just checked something... wow.

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