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1/16/2025 2:04:41 PM EDT
In our new rural area I have alarms, cameras, a few RCS's and a concrete 10x10 storm cellar.

I want to put a small safe in the house that is build like my amsec BF but small for paperwork and some jewelry. Nothing outrageous expensive but more family sentimental and yes important paperwork.
Fire resistance is the most important. Or super secure and I can put in my storm cellar.

I did not see a small amsec BF and I can't by myself move my current amsec that is out of state.

I just don't want cheap drywall like these
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What about these?
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I was looking at this amsec wall safe for around $600
not sure how good it is but door is .5" steel but no mention of what the fire protection is
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AMSEC WFS149E5LP Fireproof Wall Safe
https://www.safeandvaultstore.com/collections/fireproof-wall-safes/products/amsec-wfs149e5lp-fireproof-wall-safe-wfs149e5lp
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1/16/2025 3:17:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MartinHewitt][Edited] [#1]
The two Sentrys are low end fire safes. Two plastic sheets filled with a white, soft substance. Any power tool will rip it apart in seconds.

A good demonstration of the protection these boxes provide:
[756] Sentry Safe Cut in Half FAST!


The description of the AmSec on the linked website is not consistent. 1/2" thick door with 1/2" steel and 1/2" bolts. The AmSec website mentions the 1/2" thick door and the 1/2" bolts, but not the steel. Maybe the door slab is 1/2", because the bolts are clearly thinner than the door. From the shapes of the door frame and the door it looks like pressed, thin (hopefully) steel, which is due to its 60 minutes UL fire rating for sure filled also with soft stuff. With this construction and only two bolts I doubt I will have much burglar resistance. More than the plastic Sentries, but not much more. Also with a wall safe you need to consider where to mount it and what is after installation protecting it from the outside.

If fire is your only concern, then they are a good entry level solution for you. I would keep key and code attached to the safe, so that a burglar can have a look that the documents indeed to not have monetary value.

If your only concern are burglaries, then there are small plate safes which are quite sturdy, but are no high-security safes. In any case bolt them down well to good concrete or a very solid wooden beam.

PS: You could have a look at what Craig's List offers in your area.

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