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11/27/2010 12:36:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Schuey2k2][Edited] [#1]
^^^^

Is that a Countycomm Bail Out Bag?
11/27/2010 12:48:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Sir_Peter][Edited] [#2]
looks like it could be the Condor Tactical Response Bag

Condor

I may have to put one of those on my next order to replace my current bag
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11/29/2010 4:31:47 PM EDT
[#3]
Originally Posted By FMD:
Originally Posted By flyingjibus:
There have been several time in my life where I was out shooting with a group of people and we were literally 2 hours from any responding medical types.  

I find it funny that the old "better to have it and not need it" saying is used by so many about guns, but when it comes to some first aid items people scoff at the thought of carrying something that weighs nothing and is the size of a pen.

The top three battlefield killers are bleeding, airway restrictions, and tension pneumothorax.  Any good blow out kit should be able to treat all three.

Take a class, read a book, watch videos on the internetz.  There are tons of resources out there.

The only thing worse then watching one of your buddies experience an injury related to a firearm is watching it and not being able to do anything about it.

This kit is on my belt and is with me anytime I shoot.  I also have a bigger kit in the car with the same stuff and a bunch more other items.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f219/flyingjibus/Firearms/P1010227.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f219/flyingjibus/Firearms/P1010228.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f219/flyingjibus/Firearms/P1010229.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f219/flyingjibus/Firearms/P1010230.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f219/flyingjibus/Firearms/P1010232.jpg

In there you have the following
Shears
Nitrile gloves
CAT tourniquet
Israeli pressure dressing
Gauze
Hemcon Dressing
see through occlusive sticky dressing
Hyfin Chest seal
Chest needle
Small blue led light
duct tape
medical tape
NPA airway device
Tampon

Last but not least INSTRUCTIONS!!! Its good to have a reference under stress.


Color me impressed. Pouch and insert manufacturer?


Thanks.


As stated by the other poster the insert is ATS.  The pouch is the HSGI nalgene pouch.
11/29/2010 4:36:50 PM EDT
[#4]
Originally Posted By Sir_Peter:
looks like it could be the Condor Tactical Response Bag

Condor

I may have to put one of those on my next order to replace my current bag

If you look at pics of both sides of the Condor and the CountyComm bag, they look exactly the same...
11/29/2010 5:45:51 PM EDT
[#5]



Originally Posted By flyingjibus:



Originally Posted By FMD:


Originally Posted By flyingjibus:

There have been several time in my life where I was out shooting with a group of people and we were literally 2 hours from any responding medical types.  



I find it funny that the old "better to have it and not need it" saying is used by so many about guns, but when it comes to some first aid items people scoff at the thought of carrying something that weighs nothing and is the size of a pen.



The top three battlefield killers are bleeding, airway restrictions, and tension pneumothorax.  Any good blow out kit should be able to treat all three.



Take a class, read a book, watch videos on the internetz.  There are tons of resources out there.



The only thing worse then watching one of your buddies experience an injury related to a firearm is watching it and not being able to do anything about it.



This kit is on my belt and is with me anytime I shoot.  I also have a bigger kit in the car with the same stuff and a bunch more other items.



http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f219/flyingjibus/Firearms/P1010227.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f219/flyingjibus/Firearms/P1010228.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f219/flyingjibus/Firearms/P1010229.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f219/flyingjibus/Firearms/P1010230.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f219/flyingjibus/Firearms/P1010232.jpg



In there you have the following

Shears

Nitrile gloves

CAT tourniquet

Israeli pressure dressing

Gauze

Hemcon Dressing

see through occlusive sticky dressing

Hyfin Chest seal

Chest needle

Small blue led light

duct tape

medical tape

NPA airway device

Tampon



Last but not least INSTRUCTIONS!!! Its good to have a reference under stress.




Color me impressed. Pouch and insert manufacturer?




Thanks.





As stated by the other poster the insert is ATS.  The pouch is the HSGI nalgene pouch.


Not an HSGI Pouch...



CXS



 
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11/29/2010 5:59:20 PM EDT
[#6]
^^^^

The stitching on the PAL webbing on the front of his pouch is like no other brand that I have seen...
12/1/2010 10:57:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: flyingjibus][Edited] [#7]
Originally Posted By Custom-X_Sponjah:

Originally Posted By flyingjibus:
Originally Posted By FMD:
Originally Posted By flyingjibus:
There have been several time in my life where I was out shooting with a group of people and we were literally 2 hours from any responding medical types.  

I find it funny that the old "better to have it and not need it" saying is used by so many about guns, but when it comes to some first aid items people scoff at the thought of carrying something that weighs nothing and is the size of a pen.

The top three battlefield killers are bleeding, airway restrictions, and tension pneumothorax.  Any good blow out kit should be able to treat all three.

Take a class, read a book, watch videos on the internetz.  There are tons of resources out there.

The only thing worse then watching one of your buddies experience an injury related to a firearm is watching it and not being able to do anything about it.

This kit is on my belt and is with me anytime I shoot.  I also have a bigger kit in the car with the same stuff and a bunch more other items.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f219/flyingjibus/Firearms/P1010227.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f219/flyingjibus/Firearms/P1010228.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f219/flyingjibus/Firearms/P1010229.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f219/flyingjibus/Firearms/P1010230.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f219/flyingjibus/Firearms/P1010232.jpg

In there you have the following
Shears
Nitrile gloves
CAT tourniquet
Israeli pressure dressing
Gauze
Hemcon Dressing
see through occlusive sticky dressing
Hyfin Chest seal
Chest needle
Small blue led light
duct tape
medical tape
NPA airway device
Tampon

Last but not least INSTRUCTIONS!!! Its good to have a reference under stress.


Color me impressed. Pouch and insert manufacturer?


Thanks.


As stated by the other poster the insert is ATS.  The pouch is the HSGI nalgene pouch.

Not an HSGI Pouch...

CXS
 


Well I guess I dont know shit about my shit!!

I cant remember, it could be Emdom, OSOE, Tactical tailor.  Let me see if I can dig it up for y'all

EDIT:  Hmm  maybe Esstac?
12/4/2010 6:52:48 PM EDT
[#8]
Originally Posted By Sir_Peter:
looks like it could be the Condor Tactical Response Bag

Condor

I may have to put one of those on my next order to replace my current bag


its the condor, cant beat it for the price
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12/5/2010 7:43:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Swat_dude][Edited] [#9]
I didn't read through 9 pages to see if this had been mentioned but I recently saw it written up in a magazine. For everything included it seems like a great value...

http://www.tacticalmedicine.com/2crk.html
12/6/2010 10:46:14 PM EDT
[#10]
Good info, thnx.
12/7/2010 11:37:58 PM EDT
[#11]
my BOK...... surplus 3 mag pouch with grenade pouches removed....ATS low pro med insert, 6" Israeli bandage, CAT, 14g cath, NPA, vasiline gauze, lube, nitrile gloves, trauma shears.....







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12/17/2010 8:29:01 PM EDT
[#12]
Consider this a tag.
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3/15/2011 5:46:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: PineTreeMan][Edited] [#13]
Maxpedition F.I.G.H.T Medical pouch
HSGI bleeder blowout pouch


REI hikers first aid kit
Asherman chest seal
Shears
Tourniquet
2 combat gauze
Red chem light
2 pairs of Defender T gloves


Olaes bandage
SOF-T
Sharpie with duct tape wrapped around it
Shears
3/15/2011 11:36:35 PM EDT
[#14]
How are you guys attaching a SOF-T to the bleeder pouch?  Looks like there is elastic wrap on some or is that something you guys are bolting on?  Mine doesn't have anything there than molle...
3/16/2011 12:19:58 AM EDT
[#15]
I use 2 riggers rubber bands to attach a TQ to the HSGI.
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3/16/2011 7:55:48 AM EDT
[#16]



Originally Posted By jdmassett:


How are you guys attaching a SOF-T to the bleeder pouch?  Looks like there is elastic wrap on some or is that something you guys are bolting on?  Mine doesn't have anything there than molle...


That is the BFG Tourniquet NOW! Strap. Slick Product.

http://www.skdtac.com/Blue_Force_Gear_Tourniquet_NOW_Strap_p/1sk.118.htm

Gene Uses this on his Bleeder Pouch.





I use 2 Rubber Bands like this..





CXS



 



3/16/2011 9:27:18 AM EDT
[#17]
I also use a rubber band it works but can break I also use velcro to secure mine as soon as I can figure out how to post pics of my kit I will
3/16/2011 10:43:30 AM EDT
[#18]
I used to use rubber bands too.  After I lost my second or third tourniquet, I designed what became the Tourniquet NOW! Strap for Blue Force Gear.  Haven't lost one since

Stephen
3/16/2011 2:14:49 PM EDT
[#19]
Is there a recommended list of contents for someone not running a medic/field surgeon rig?

Me and a few others are trying to find the most ideal pouch in that it holds a good volume of contents without being a huge trauma kit. Personally I like BFG Trauma Kit NOW and the HSGI Mini EOD pouch personally, but I wanted some input from those more experienced.

A friend of mine, who's a Capt and field surgeon in the US Army, has looked at a bunch of kits (ATS small pouch, BFG Trauma Kit NOW, HSGI pouch, DS Tactical Pouch, Maxpedition FIGHT pouch, and Esstac Medrat pouch) and she seems concerned that they may all be "too small"

Sounds a little , but her logic is since the single person doesn't have a guaranteed sick bay to be transported to from the field in the event this stuff should have to be used, they should have enough on them to be self contained, without carrying all the stuff a medic or field surgeon would. Somewhere between a USGI medkit and a Field Surgeon's rig.

So, I'm stumped. There's a lot of packs I like, but given her input, I'm not sure where to go with this. I'm also worried she might be looking at it from too much a "Caring" perspective; when it comes to armor she'd rather everyone go out in "walking tank" fashion, with front/back plates, side plates, groin protection, neck protection, helmet, etc. Yeah, fuck that.

So, to the original question:

What's the ideal list of medical gear to have on you (ex: QuikClot, Israeli Bandage, gauze, shears, etc), and what are some of the better pouches to fit them in?
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Hang them with the chain they enslave you with.
3/16/2011 3:30:21 PM EDT
[#20]
Thanks for all the info fellas!  

I knew I had seen that BFG strap before and just forgot, very slick.
3/17/2011 3:56:43 AM EDT
[#21]
Originally Posted By Plissken:
Is there a recommended list of contents for someone not running a medic/field surgeon rig?

Me and a few others are trying to find the most ideal pouch in that it holds a good volume of contents without being a huge trauma kit. Personally I like BFG Trauma Kit NOW and the HSGI Mini EOD pouch personally, but I wanted some input from those more experienced.

A friend of mine, who's a Capt and field surgeon in the US Army, has looked at a bunch of kits (ATS small pouch, BFG Trauma Kit NOW, HSGI pouch, DS Tactical Pouch, Maxpedition FIGHT pouch, and Esstac Medrat pouch) and she seems concerned that they may all be "too small"

Sounds a little , but her logic is since the single person doesn't have a guaranteed sick bay to be transported to from the field in the event this stuff should have to be used, they should have enough on them to be self contained, without carrying all the stuff a medic or field surgeon would. Somewhere between a USGI medkit and a Field Surgeon's rig.

So, I'm stumped. There's a lot of packs I like, but given her input, I'm not sure where to go with this. I'm also worried she might be looking at it from too much a "Caring" perspective; when it comes to armor she'd rather everyone go out in "walking tank" fashion, with front/back plates, side plates, groin protection, neck protection, helmet, etc. Yeah, fuck that.

So, to the original question:

What's the ideal list of medical gear to have on you (ex: QuikClot, Israeli Bandage, gauze, shears, etc), and what are some of the better pouches to fit them in?


Anybody?
You are the Resistance.

Hang them with the chain they enslave you with.
3/17/2011 6:33:59 AM EDT
[#22]
here's what I carry
2 cat tourniquet
2 combat gauze
2 Zpak
1 6 inch israeli bandage
1 14g decompression needle
1 nasal airway
and a pair of scissors
all this goes into a 100 round saw pouch
it's cheap and it works good
is this gonna be for yourself or to treat other people
3/17/2011 9:26:35 AM EDT
[#23]
Originally Posted By Plissken:
Originally Posted By Plissken:
Is there a recommended list of contents for someone not running a medic/field surgeon rig?

Me and a few others are trying to find the most ideal pouch in that it holds a good volume of contents without being a huge trauma kit. Personally I like BFG Trauma Kit NOW and the HSGI Mini EOD pouch personally, but I wanted some input from those more experienced.

A friend of mine, who's a Capt and field surgeon in the US Army, has looked at a bunch of kits (ATS small pouch, BFG Trauma Kit NOW, HSGI pouch, DS Tactical Pouch, Maxpedition FIGHT pouch, and Esstac Medrat pouch) and she seems concerned that they may all be "too small"

Sounds a little , but her logic is since the single person doesn't have a guaranteed sick bay to be transported to from the field in the event this stuff should have to be used, they should have enough on them to be self contained, without carrying all the stuff a medic or field surgeon would. Somewhere between a USGI medkit and a Field Surgeon's rig.

So, I'm stumped. There's a lot of packs I like, but given her input, I'm not sure where to go with this. I'm also worried she might be looking at it from too much a "Caring" perspective; when it comes to armor she'd rather everyone go out in "walking tank" fashion, with front/back plates, side plates, groin protection, neck protection, helmet, etc. Yeah, fuck that.

So, to the original question:

What's the ideal list of medical gear to have on you (ex: QuikClot, Israeli Bandage, gauze, shears, etc), and what are some of the better pouches to fit them in?


Anybody?


This is what I'm trying to gather for mine based on my experience and posts here and elsewhere.  This will hopefully all fit into an ATS Med Tray Insert stowed in a TT AK/M4 pouch:

Tylenol
Nitrile Gloves
CPR shield
Tourniquet (Tourni-Kwik 4 (TK4)?)
Quick-clot
Saran Wrap (use as thoracic seal)
Vetwrap / ACE wrap (Vetwrap is cheaper, sticks better)
Micro AAA sized LED light with constant on mode (no pushbutton)
Stubby Sharpie marker (3" from hardware store checkout)
Shears
ABD pads (use as trauma dressings)
Nonsterile 4x4s - seal into a bag?
A few Bandaids
Small sample size tube of Vaseline
Small tube of Super Glue (or a few micro singles)
2" tape - silk or Durapore


3/17/2011 12:40:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Maguzi308][Edited] [#24]
ATS Med Tray Insert, post a photo of this please,

thank you

My TQ setup.  Don't ask trade secret pouch.


3/17/2011 7:21:37 PM EDT
[#25]
Maguzi308 what do you have in your bleeder pouch?
3/17/2011 7:32:24 PM EDT
[#26]
I own page 10 of the med pouches thread. First one.



I read and reread this thread to come up with this kit. TQ, chest seals, bandage, airway, catheters, gloves, sharpie.
3/17/2011 8:09:28 PM EDT
[#27]
Looks pretty good to me.  Simple and straight forward.
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3/17/2011 8:35:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Pilk][Edited] [#28]
Originally Posted By Maguzi308:
ATS Med Tray Insert, post a photo of this please,

thank you

My TQ setup.  Don't ask trade secret pouch.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z205/mfo88/IMG00300.jpg
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z205/mfo88/mc2.jpg


if you go up a few posts.......there is a picture in my post......^

ETA: crap.... new page....so-

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3/18/2011 9:14:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RRA_223][Edited] [#29]
Originally Posted By flinch08:
I own page 10 of the med pouches thread. First one.

http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac311/colorsplash-10/100_1134.jpg

I read and reread this thread to come up with this kit. TQ, chest seals, bandage, airway, catheters, gloves, sharpie.



I am a fan of Tac Med Solutions.   Nice kits and a fair price.  Shipped fast also.    

I picked up two of their "downed operator" kits (TQ, Compression bandage, shears, facemask, tape, gloves) - one for the daily vehicle and the other for my war-belt (with a HALO thrown in).   Fits into one of the Grey Ghost / TT zippered pouches nicely!

Since I'm almost always alone when I am out in the woods...  I left out the nasopharyngeal catheter; but I'll probably make a larger "class/range" bag with more stuff and include it there.

I am contemplating getting one of those ATS pull-out gizmos, since fishing around in a zippered pouch is not the easiest thing to do.
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3/19/2011 2:09:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: larryparamedic][Edited] [#30]
Since I'm almost always alone when I am out in the woods...  I left out the nasopharyngeal catheter; but I'll probably make a larger "class/range" bag with more stuff and include it there.


Those are indicated on conscious patients/patients with a "gag reflex" anyway, and you CAN self-insert it, so might as well leave it in anyway!
All Bleeding Stops...Eventually
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SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM
"If you wish for peace, prepare for war"
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SEMPER PARATUS
"Always Ready"
3/20/2011 9:50:42 AM EDT
[#31]
My Condor Rip-away IFAK that I'm really digging right now.
I've packed this baby up to a squad level treatment kit, as well as my personal stuff,  and there's still some room left.






















All Bleeding Stops...Eventually
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SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM
"If you wish for peace, prepare for war"
------------------------------------
SEMPER PARATUS
"Always Ready"
3/20/2011 4:06:31 PM EDT
[#32]
Nice pouch and set up, Larry.   But I think those CPR Microshields are bad news (Maybe better than nothing), as the air inlet has no one-way valve to protect from the victim's fluids coming up into the rescuer's mouth.   Our agency pulled them from issue over a decade ago.   Gall's has a good mask that is available in a hard olive-drab clam shell.   Cheap insurance, although they do take up a lot of space inside a military-style medical pouch.
3/20/2011 5:51:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: larryparamedic][Edited] [#33]
Quite the contrary these do have a one-way valve protecting you from the patient side.
I carry these everywhere because they are small, compact and work. All of the renal dialysis clinics I work in also carry them at the patient stations.
I additionally have Laerdal Pocket Masks, BVMs, Nasophyrangeal Airways, Berman and Geudal Orophyrangeal Airways and EET tubes and disposable laryngoscopes to choose from, but these work quite well!  

Don't know if you can tell in this pic but that is a one-way valve there.
All Bleeding Stops...Eventually
------------------------------------
SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM
"If you wish for peace, prepare for war"
------------------------------------
SEMPER PARATUS
"Always Ready"
3/20/2011 10:14:20 PM EDT
[#34]
Cool, then they must have redesigned it since we last had them.  The packaging still looks the same.
3/26/2011 12:06:06 PM EDT
[#35]
Right now I have an Eagle/SKD Universal Chest Rig. I'm looking to attach a med pouch and stuff it with some goodies. I only have two rows of pal webbing, which pouch would give me the most space for so little attachment? I'm thinking the HSGI Improved Bleeder or something similar. I intend to stuff it with one of Tactical Response gears VOKs. Any other suggestions?
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3/26/2011 12:34:16 PM EDT
[#36]
I think with 2 rows your best bet may be the HSGI.  

But considering the importance of medical gear, I would see about freeing up real estate if you want to carry more.
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3/26/2011 5:01:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Maguzi308][Edited] [#37]
My ifaks and bag.



emdom, TT, RECCE, HSGI


HSGI


RECCE IFAK is the best had them all.  Only Hold back WC









3/28/2011 8:13:05 PM EDT
[#38]
Nice idea folding the SAM splint out flat like that, much more space conserving than the way it comes rolled up round. (last pic)
All Bleeding Stops...Eventually
------------------------------------
SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM
"If you wish for peace, prepare for war"
------------------------------------
SEMPER PARATUS
"Always Ready"
3/28/2011 10:00:00 PM EDT
[#39]
The sam splint works great as a support base for the emdom wide mouth bag/pouch.
3/28/2011 10:31:12 PM EDT
[#40]
Here is my IFAK that I carry on my chest carrier that I use when going to training classes. I go into detail on my site http://www.gothamsurvival.com/?p=893













Complete List of Contents

   * 1 Specter Gear medical pouch
   * 1 Tourniquet
   * 1 Celox gauze roll
   * 1 Celox 25 gram granule pouch
   * 1 Medical shears
   * 1 Quickclot sport 3.5 x 3.5 in gauze pad
   * 2 2x2 in gauze pad
   * 3 large knuckle band-aids
   * 3 medium knuckle band-aids
   * 4 large band aids
   * 3 butterfly closures
   * 1 small needle tweezer
   * 4 pks ibuprofen
   * 1 10 count advil travel bottle (not shown)
   * 1 chapstick (not shown)
   * 2 doses benadryl / diphen
   * 6 doses sudafed
   * 3 pks triple antibiotic ointment
   * 5 antiseptic towlettes
   * 2 alka seltzer
   * 2 pair vinyl gloves
   * 1 5x9 in gauze pad
   * 2 3x4 in gauze pad
   * 1 4x4 in gauze pad
   * 2 3x3 in gauze pad
   * 1 6.5x4in mole foam
   * 2 3in wide gauze rolls
   * 2 ft duct tape roll
   * 1ft duct tape roll
   * 1 small roll medical tape
   * 3 safety pins
   * 1 triangular bandage
   * 1 elastic bandage
   * 1 betadine solution ampule

http://www.gothamsurvival.com/?p=893


6/10/2011 10:18:17 PM EDT
[#41]
6/16/2011 5:25:19 PM EDT
[#42]
I carry the stuff in this IFAK but with a 6" Israeli bandage instead of the 4" a small roll of kerlix gauze (It is a pretty tight fit, but I can open it with one hand.)



But in this pouch:
Let us disappoint the Men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country.
~John Adams
8/1/2011 12:57:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Maguzi308][Edited] [#43]
Hello!!
8/22/2011 2:22:51 PM EDT
[#44]
Originally Posted By Plissken:
Is there a recommended list of contents for someone not running a medic/field surgeon rig?

Me and a few others are trying to find the most ideal pouch in that it holds a good volume of contents without being a huge trauma kit. Personally I like BFG Trauma Kit NOW and the HSGI Mini EOD pouch personally, but I wanted some input from those more experienced.

A friend of mine, who's a Capt and field surgeon in the US Army, has looked at a bunch of kits (ATS small pouch, BFG Trauma Kit NOW, HSGI pouch, DS Tactical Pouch, Maxpedition FIGHT pouch, and Esstac Medrat pouch) and she seems concerned that they may all be "too small"

Sounds a little , but her logic is since the single person doesn't have a guaranteed sick bay to be transported to from the field in the event this stuff should have to be used, they should have enough on them to be self contained, without carrying all the stuff a medic or field surgeon would. Somewhere between a USGI medkit and a Field Surgeon's rig.

So, I'm stumped. There's a lot of packs I like, but given her input, I'm not sure where to go with this. I'm also worried she might be looking at it from too much a "Caring" perspective; when it comes to armor she'd rather everyone go out in "walking tank" fashion, with front/back plates, side plates, groin protection, neck protection, helmet, etc. Yeah, fuck that.

So, to the original question:

What's the ideal list of medical gear to have on you (ex: QuikClot, Israeli Bandage, gauze, shears, etc), and what are some of the better pouches to fit them in?


Sorry Dude, didnt see the question in a timely manner...... if you look up the page at the kit on my belt, it is my "Last Aid" kit, very minimal and for use when "I" am bleeding.....most of these guys have very good kits listed, it would take a whole lot of page to list my actual aid kit......I carry a full operational Medic Pack on me, while doing missions......back to your question, copy what others have done already, or better- go get some training in emergency medicine....First Responder, EMT, even a red cross first aid class will give you a heads up.


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8/22/2011 3:55:46 PM EDT
[#45]
A little bigger then a vest mounted pouch, but this seemed like the only applicable thread to put it in;

I used a TSSI M9 low profile aid bag as my go to bag in Iraq 2008-2009. I had a Blackhawk bag I set up (http://gearsoc.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=2760&p=18163#p18163) in my evac vehicle, and this M9 was what I'd take on my back because it has a much smaller profile and is easier to use in vehicle operations.



On the outside I had 2 CATs rubber banded to each side's MOLLE webbing (total of 4), chemlights through the front MOLLE webbing, and an IR flag for night time IFF.



In opened the bottom pocket up I carried two 500ml of hextend, all of my CLS and trucks had tons of NS so I wasn't too worried about saline fluids. Also have two 10ml saline flushes to clear out locks in the compartment along with a NARP BOA band, sharps shuttle and FAST 1 IO IV kit with a tactical traction splint - we were primarily mounted in MRAPs so a long bone injury was likely in the event of a rollover so it was good to have around. Its hard to see, but the black bag on the right side is the case for the splint.




I set my IV bag kits up in what I called "burritos". It had an IV lock kit, tubing and fluids and was rolled up in a cravat held together by tape which could be used to secure the tubing and catheter down while saving a lot of space.



When you opened the main compartment the first zippered pouch on the flap panel was my "gay shit" pouch; I kept various meds (usually diphenhydramine, ibprofin, loperamide, MSO4, promethezine, and narcan with carpujects) as well as a minor wound kit with bandaids, 2x2s, telfa dressings, and steristrips along with antibiotic ointment in it.



I used the panel that came with the bag instead of using the one where you could make your own with tie downs. I keep 2 14 ga 3 1/4" NARP ARD needles in it, 2 Hyfin dressings and 2 ACS as well as a set of trauma sheers, exam light and a red and black sharpee.




In the pouch beneath the chest injury panel I had four of the NARP needleless saline lock kits as well as a couple constricting band.



The zippered pouch on the top of the main compartment I used as my diagnostic pouch. I have about 10 pairs of the little black talon gloves that are rolled up in each other, an Onyx 9500 pulse oximeter, a Littman Cardiac Pro stethoscope, two rolls of 3" medical tape, a small green lens exam light and an Epipen.




One of the best things about this bag was its wide open layout. As soon as you open it pretty much everything is right there for you.



Below the zippered pouch in the first of the open top kangaroo pouches I have 2 NPAs with lube, a NARP cyclone pocket BVM, an EZ Suction bulb and a Size 5 King LT kit.



Beneath that was part of my bleeding kit, its got three rolls of Quick clot combat gauze, three 6" Emergency trauma dressings and a large abdominal sized ETD.



Under that has four rolls of S-rolled gauze, two hemcon bandages, two ACE wraps, two cravats, and a NARP Crikit. The Crikit is sort of out of place in the bleeding pouch, but it was the only place where it would fit.

In the back mesh pocket I've got two unrolled SAM splints and a c-collar as it is a necessity in the event of a vehicle rolling over.
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8/22/2011 4:26:10 PM EDT
[#46]
Originally Posted By DocBach:
A little bigger then a vest mounted pouch, but this seemed like the only applicable thread to put it in;

I used a TSSI M9 low profile aid bag as my go to bag in Iraq 2008-2009. I had a Blackhawk bag I set up (http://gearsoc.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=2760&p=18163#p18163) in my evac vehicle, and this M9 was what I'd take on my back because it has a much smaller profile and is easier to use in vehicle operations.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/docrock184/DSC00590.jpg

On the outside I had 2 CATs rubber banded to each side's MOLLE webbing (total of 4), chemlights through the front MOLLE webbing, and an IR flag for night time IFF.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/docrock184/DSC00601.jpg

In opened the bottom pocket up I carried two 500ml of hextend, all of my CLS and trucks had tons of NS so I wasn't too worried about saline fluids. Also have two 10ml saline flushes to clear out locks in the compartment along with a NARP BOA band, sharps shuttle and FAST 1 IO IV kit with a tactical traction splint - we were primarily mounted in MRAPs so a long bone injury was likely in the event of a rollover so it was good to have around. Its hard to see, but the black bag on the right side is the case for the splint.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/docrock184/DSC00602.jpg


I set my IV bag kits up in what I called "burritos". It had an IV lock kit, tubing and fluids and was rolled up in a cravat held together by tape which could be used to secure the tubing and catheter down while saving a lot of space.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/docrock184/DSC00593.jpg

When you opened the main compartment the first zippered pouch on the flap panel was my "gay shit" pouch; I kept various meds (usually diphenhydramine, ibprofin, loperamide, MSO4, promethezine, and narcan with carpujects) as well as a minor wound kit with bandaids, 2x2s, telfa dressings, and steristrips along with antibiotic ointment in it.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/docrock184/DSC00592.jpg

I used the panel that came with the bag instead of using the one where you could make your own with tie downs. I keep 2 14 ga 3 1/4" NARP ARD needles in it, 2 Hyfin dressings and 2 ACS as well as a set of trauma sheers, exam light and a red and black sharpee.


http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/docrock184/DSC00594.jpg

In the pouch beneath the chest injury panel I had four of the NARP needleless saline lock kits as well as a couple constricting band.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/docrock184/DSC00596.jpg

The zippered pouch on the top of the main compartment I used as my diagnostic pouch. I have about 10 pairs of the little black talon gloves that are rolled up in each other, an Onyx 9500 pulse oximeter, a Littman Cardiac Pro stethoscope, two rolls of 3" medical tape, a small green lens exam light and an Epipen.


http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/docrock184/DSC00600.jpg

One of the best things about this bag was its wide open layout. As soon as you open it pretty much everything is right there for you.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/docrock184/DSC00597.jpg

Below the zippered pouch in the first of the open top kangaroo pouches I have 2 NPAs with lube, a NARP cyclone pocket BVM, an EZ Suction bulb and a Size 5 King LT kit.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/docrock184/DSC00598.jpg

Beneath that was part of my bleeding kit, its got three rolls of Quick clot combat gauze, three 6" Emergency trauma dressings and a large abdominal sized ETD.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy285/docrock184/DSC00599.jpg

Under that has four rolls of S-rolled gauze, two hemcon bandages, two ACE wraps, two cravats, and a NARP Crikit. The Crikit is sort of out of place in the bleeding pouch, but it was the only place where it would fit.

In the back mesh pocket I've got two unrolled SAM splints and a c-collar as it is a necessity in the event of a vehicle rolling over.


Im impressed!!!
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8/22/2011 5:15:18 PM EDT
[#47]
Some excellent kits in here!  



I'm in the process of reorganizing, and adding to my med pouches.



I broke the cardinal rule of not mixing your BOK items with your IFAK stuff!



GSW / Bleeder kit should be kept separate from your individual BooBoo Kit, IMHO.



I loaded all of mine up into one pouch, and mama done told me not to put all yer eggs in one basket.



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8/28/2011 11:05:37 AM EDT
[#48]
My usual BOK, PC mounted SO Tech SOF IFAK.  I wear it up front where I can get to it without having to get out of my vest or have a buddy access it.  First rule: SELF AID.



Open view:



Contents:



CAT Tourniquet (I'm not a fan but it supplements the SOF tourniquets on my PC and right lower leg pocket)
Quick clot gauze x 2
Tape dummy corded to pouch
Safety pins
gloves (go in the outside sleeve of the IFAK)
Saranwrap wrapped around a piece of cardboard and stored in heavy duty mylar pouch.  Good for wrapping around abdominal wounds, keeping gauze in place when the wound site is wet or also as a chest seal.
Pressure bandage
Kerlix gauze wrap x 2
Z-pack dressing, highly absorbant
Razor knife (on dummy cord)
Decompression needle
Small Streamlight flash light with blue, green, IR filter on dummy cord.
Sharpie (obviously)
Asherman Chest Seal
Naso-pharyngeal airway.  I don't pack the surgilube because it keeps bursting in my IFAK.  Blood/snot/spit will work just fine.

Alternate BOK, Mojo fanny pack.  I wear this when I'm going light with just mags and radio on the PC.  I can slide it around back and if I need it I can slide it back around with one hand.



Tourniquet pouch open w/ two SOF tourniquets on a velcro holder:



Main pouch and secondary pouch open, tourniquets and holder removed:



Contents:



Pill pak
Quick clot
Chest decompression needle
Celox hemostatic Z dressing
Trauma pack



Nasopharyngeal airway
Surgilube
Halo chest seal
14 Ga catheter
Israeli dressing
Pencil
Ace wrap
H&H compressed gauze
Casualty card







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9/6/2011 2:15:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bcauz3y][Edited] [#49]
How good are the cav tourniquets?


(sorry if this has been asked previous)





http://www.cavalrymanufacturing.com/medical/ICMK.html



ETA: Just spoke with the owner of Cav. Great guy, very knowledgeable. Pointed him to this thread. I'll let him explain the new Cav tourniquets.



 
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9/17/2011 7:41:32 AM EDT
[#50]
I'm seeing some really nice IFAK kits, but do any of you actually know how to use them if you were in a situation that required it??? not trying to be a dick, but this applies the same as your vest and such, try it out to make sure it works and you can use it properly

I mean has anyone even used an NP tube?

I'm not sure if the civilian side has its own version of a combat life saver course but if you haven't had any medical training, I recommend taking it.

If you have all that medical gear and have no idea on its proper use then its worthless. just  my $0.02

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