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2/18/2025 11:33:18 AM EDT
What are your thoughts ?
2/18/2025 11:46:04 AM EDT
[#1]
James River is amazing.. at least in my case. Built on a Bula receiver, its the most accurate M1A rifle I have owned out of dozens. I've owned just about every maker.. many Springfields, a Fulton, Poly...
2/18/2025 2:00:25 PM EDT
[#2]
If you can swing the extra cost I would avoid the Springfield.
2/18/2025 4:11:22 PM EDT
[#3]
James River, no doubt about it.
2/19/2025 12:57:57 PM EDT
[#4]
I've owned both; a 2018 production M1A Standard and a Bula with their 19.25" medium weight barrel from back when they were selling barreled "kits" that basically just needed a stock and a flash hider. Sold the M1A, still have the Bula.

The M1A was a good rifle. It was reasonably accurate. It did need a trip back to SAI for a new trigger housing as the one it shipped with was out of spec and seating mags was difficult. The main issue this rifle had was the receiver was not quite in spec, so mounting an optic required some fitting on the scope mount.

The Bula is very nice. Even in a USGI fiberglass stock, it out shot the Springfield. Receiver fits any scope mount I've tried. I kept this one as I just liked it a little more than the SAI. The 19.25" barrel is pretty cool as it allows you to run a bayonet lug and still pull the gas piston for maintenance.

I don't think you could go wrong with either.
2/20/2025 2:23:33 AM EDT
[#5]
I've got an early (I think) James River and it's been an amazing rifle. Not fired a ton, maybe 1k rounds through it. It's reliable and accurate. Love that rifle.
2/20/2025 9:00:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: tsg68][Edited] [#6]
I’d love to get a JRA standard. Haven’t seen a used one pop up yet. People must be happy with theirs.
2/20/2025 9:38:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Rbass][Edited] [#7]
I would stay away from anything Bula. You can dig into why at the m14forum if you’re interested.
2/22/2025 6:09:58 PM EDT
[#8]
I got a new in the box Springfield Armory M1A in the fall of 2011 and all I added was a 'NM' rear aperture as it came with a NM front sight from the factory. I use it frequently to shoot at a 2' steel plate at 400 yds with. All I've done to it is the rear sight, shimming the gas system and dressing the trigger group. With my 165 grn handloads, it's decently accurate at 400 yds so hitting the plate is relatively easy as long as it's not gusting.
2/22/2025 6:14:13 PM EDT
[#9]
I'd bet my 3 SA's can out shoot pretty much any OTC JR.

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2/22/2025 10:01:18 PM EDT
[#10]
The '21 Springfield Standard I just sold was excellent. MOA with Prvi 155 HPBT after I shimmed the gas system. No malfunctions of any sort and the trigger was phenomenal.
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2/22/2025 11:27:38 PM EDT
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I would stay away from anything Bula. You can dig into why at the m14forum if you’re interested.
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Dang! Really? I've been thinking about getting their Paratrooper.
3/1/2025 12:34:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: smoothy8500][Edited] [#12]
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Originally Posted By Rbass:
I would stay away from anything Bula. You can dig into why at the m14forum if you’re interested.
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Originally Posted By Rbass:
I would stay away from anything Bula. You can dig into why at the m14forum if you’re interested.


Originally Posted By raygixxer89:

Dang! Really? I've been thinking about getting their Paratrooper.


Bula Op rods falling apart, bolts cracking. I had bought a Bula bolt second-hand and the firing pin dragged internally. Bula wasn't able to help me since I was a second buyer. Yeah, unfortunately Bula has some QC issues.
3/1/2025 9:14:00 PM EDT
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Bula Op rods falling apart, bolts cracking. I had bought a Bula bolt second-hand and the firing pin dragged internally. Bula wasn't able to help me since I was a second buyer. Yeah, unfortunately Bula has some QC issues.
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I think that's still ongoing. I can't confirm, but I recall that Bula's CS was not very helpful, even from those who bought directly from them or through James River.

I will say that Springfield warrantied two- yes two- M1A Loaded rifles that an idiot former coworker blew up because he thought he knew a lot more about reloading than he actually did. They really should not have.
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3/1/2025 9:22:44 PM EDT
[#14]
SAI is a terrible company. Do not spend money with them. Even if their products are decent, the company is not.
3/1/2025 10:49:30 PM EDT
[#15]
My advice, save your money then buy-once cry-once an LRB M1A.
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4/18/2025 4:01:49 PM EDT
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SAI is a terrible company. Do not spend money with them. Even if their products are decent, the company is not.
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Do you have personal experiences you could share?
4/18/2025 4:55:34 PM EDT
[#17]
The Springfield has a cast receiver
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4/19/2025 2:07:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
The Springfield has a cast receiver
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Surprisingly, the service life of an SA, Inc. investment cast receiver is said to be around 250,000 rds.  The cost of that much 7.62mm NATO caliber ammunition and the associated barrel replacements as they wore out would buy a decent house in some places.  

4/19/2025 5:44:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bigger_Hammer][Edited] [#19]
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Originally Posted By Sanlanman:
James River, no doubt about it.
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Very much that.

Springfield isn't terrible, but the James River is the superior of the choices.

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4/19/2025 6:16:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: M-60][Edited] [#20]
Picture thread now.

James River has been a great, but little shot, rifle.  

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4/19/2025 7:30:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: compuvette][Edited] [#21]
I can’t add anything on the JRA side, but I’ve had four Springfields.  I still have three.  One early 90’s standard and two early 2000’s loadeds.  Mine have all been solid and I wish I had back the one I let go.

Since it’s now kinda a pic thread…..



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4/19/2025 12:27:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By compuvette:
I can’t add anything on the JRA side, but I’ve had four Springfields.  I still have three.  One early 90’s standard and two early 2000’s loadeds.  Mine have all been solid and I wish I had back the one I let go.

Since it’s now kinda a pic thread…..

https://i.imgur.com/YXMeQEt.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/Ta4SJL7.jpeg
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What cheek riser, please?
4/19/2025 2:06:44 PM EDT
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What cheek riser, please?
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I got it from TNVC, but I don’t see it on their site anymore.  I got two of them years ago.  It works very well.  One side has a mag pouch and the other has a slot for range cards.
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4/19/2025 5:08:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tsg68:
What cheek riser, please?
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While it's not that one, the one I like is the Triad Stock Pack. Uses strips of Velcro One Wrap to add height to the comb. Very secure.
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