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6/16/2024 3:09:50 PM EDT
Let's say you make a clone receiver of an M16A1 with all the original markings.  Would it be possible to enter these markings into your A&D and then form 2 the gun as a post sample?  I haven't been able to find any good info on the legality of this and would really appreciate some insight.
6/16/2024 3:13:07 PM EDT
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As long as you put your manufacturing markings on the receiver, I do not see why not.

6/16/2024 3:15:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 18B30:
As long as you put your manufacturing markings on the receiver, I do not see why not.

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Alright, so the clone markings in the standard locations and then my company/city/state on the bottom (or wherever)?  How would you enter this into your books on the A&D?
6/16/2024 6:44:42 PM EDT
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FPf/awesometown/Texas

Model - XM-177RoyBenevidezSpecial
Cal. 5.56 x 45mm
6/16/2024 10:02:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FleischPfeif:
Let's say you make a clone receiver of an M16A1 with all the original markings.  Would it be possible to enter these markings into your A&D and then form 2 the gun as a post sample?  I haven't been able to find any good info on the legality of this and would really appreciate some insight.
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If your clone receiver markings show "Colt" as the manufacturer......oh hell no. Colt didn't manufacture the firearm, you did.
As a 07 you have marking requirements and they are stated in § 479.102 Identification of firearms.

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6/17/2024 9:25:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DogtownTom:

If your clone receiver markings show "Colt" as the manufacturer......oh hell no. Colt didn't manufacture the firearm, you did.
As a 07 you have marking requirements and they are stated in § 479.102 Identification of firearms.

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This is the response I was expecting.  I had been speaking with another FFL (who was an SOT - more clarity is developing as to why) talking about how he made a clone receiver as a post sample.  I could not understand how he could have manufactured a clone rifle and then entered it into his books legally.  I'm guessing he entered it into his books as a title I firearm he received?  It just didn't make sense to me how that could be done so I figured I'd ask some others.
6/17/2024 12:22:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FleischPfeif:
.... I'm guessing he entered it into his books as a title I firearm he received?
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If he manufactured the clone from an existing Title I firearm, it would have the original manufacturers markings. Thats what he would enter in his records as the acquisition if he received it from someone else.  
If he manufactured that Title I firearm himself, he marks it with his info and reports it on AFMER each year. If it was manufactured as an NFA firearm, he also reports it on a Form 2.  
Plano, Texas...........the Gun Nut Capitol of Gun Culture, USA
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6/17/2024 5:18:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DogtownTom:
If he manufactured that Title I firearm himself, he marks it with his info and reports it on AFMER each year. If it was manufactured as an NFA firearm, he also reports it on a Form 2.  
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Which is precisely why if he manufactured a clone rifle with colt's manufacturing information, it could not be entered into an A&D legally.  That's where I had the question.  Okay, thanks for breaking it down I think we're both on the same page.

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