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5/15/2025 5:00:19 PM EDT
Was at FFL to do a transfer on a shotgun and there was a short barreled Marlin 45-70 on the rack.

Said it was a guide gun. Blued finish, exterior looked great. Ported barrel looked factory done but barrel looked pretty leaded at the muzzle. Quick google says these were made 1998-2002

Price seemed great so I added it to my transfer (RI 7 day wait and need to list each firearm on the transfer).

Haven't shot a lever gun since a kid and didn't even have an itch for one, especially a 45-70.

Going to have to get me some new bullet molds.

What'd I get myself into.



5/15/2025 7:24:43 PM EDT
[#1]
They're fun rifles, expect a louder report w/ the ported barrel. If you're not already into reloading the 45-70 will get you there.
I got the angry crack whore with a knife, compliance bite, alligator/other large reptile, and only need a dildo to make my night. - Paul
5/24/2025 7:53:35 PM EDT
[#2]
My 1895 45-70 Trapper and 444 outfitter from that era are the most accurate levers owned.  Immediately put a better recoil pad on, and used mid range 300/350 jacketed loads with H4198
5/26/2025 3:22:54 PM EDT
[#3]
The guys on each side of you at the range are going to hate you. They are really loud!
5/28/2025 9:23:36 AM EDT
[#4]
Great rifle, I bought one new in 2000 or so.  Mine loves both cast bullets and jacketed.  It’s a hammer for deer.  Fun to shoot steel with too, it really makes a clang!
5/30/2025 12:39:41 PM EDT
[#5]
Scope mount recommendations?
5/30/2025 1:40:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheBeaverRetriever][Edited] [#6]
Lots of guys like Ashley Performance, link here

I'm partial to the scout mount setup. XS rail, Burris 2.75x fixed scout scope, low scope mounts. Three of my rifles are setup like this.
I got the angry crack whore with a knife, compliance bite, alligator/other large reptile, and only need a dildo to make my night. - Paul
6/3/2025 1:26:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheBeaverRetriever:
Lots of guys like Ashley Performance, link here

I'm partial to the scout mount setup. XS rail, Burris 2.75x fixed scout scope, low scope mounts. Three of my rifles are setup like this.
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Any other suggestions for mounts and scope

Definitely would like a very low mount/scope.
6/3/2025 1:56:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DasRonin][Edited] [#8]
I will be the first to ask... does it have the "JM" mark.

The early ones came with ported barrels. It was a series of small posts.

This one is in .450 Marlin caliber. The scope is no longer available from Leupold.

XS rail and fixed sights. Scope has Leupold QD scope rings so the scope can be removed if fixed sights are desired.

https://xssights.com/products/marlin-optic-mounts-no-sights-included.html

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Not tired of winning any time soon!

If somebody tries to kill you... you try to kill them right back!

"You can get more done with a kind word and a gun... than with a kind word alone!" Al Capone
6/3/2025 3:29:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hamel][Edited] [#9]
Yep JM marked on barrel near receiver.

Serial number 01066xxxx. Google says 1999 manuf.

Pics of ports, 4 each side at about 11 and 1 o'clock. 2 more at 3 and 9 oclock degress, shadow makes those ports difficult to see

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6/4/2025 5:33:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hamel:
Any other suggestions for mounts and scope

Definitely would like a very low mount/scope.
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Skinner sights.

I know that's not the answer you want but between the Ashley mount and the XS rail/scout scope you probably won't find anything much better.
I got the angry crack whore with a knife, compliance bite, alligator/other large reptile, and only need a dildo to make my night. - Paul
6/4/2025 6:09:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By COSteve:
The guys on each side of you at the range are going to hate you. They are really loud!
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As will your shoulder!
Think of how stupid the average person is and realize half of them are stupider than that.
6/4/2025 6:45:23 PM EDT
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I actually chased a guy out a few benches down from me years ago when I was loading max 300gr loads. I bought a lead sled just so I could do load development without breaking my shoulder. I've tamed everything down pretty much now.
 Bought my GG when they first came out. XS scout rail, Leupold 2x Scout scope, and old Ashley peeps. Really nice, but the scope adds weight and cuts down on the handiness of the rifle I think.
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6/4/2025 9:41:45 PM EDT
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I had one in .450 Marlin.  Beautiful guns.  I really like the shorter barrels on the Guide guns.  Really loud with the ports.  I sold it last year when they were really hot.  The .450 ammo was stupid expensive.
6/5/2025 10:25:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Hamel][Edited] [#14]
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Originally Posted By TheBeaverRetriever:

Skinner sights.

I know that's not the answer you want but between the Ashley mount and the XS rail/scout scope you probably won't find anything much better.
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Originally Posted By TheBeaverRetriever:
Originally Posted By Hamel:
Any other suggestions for mounts and scope

Definitely would like a very low mount/scope.

Skinner sights.

I know that's not the answer you want but between the Ashley mount and the XS rail/scout scope you probably won't find anything much better.
I like the Ashley mounts, but currently OOS. Rather not go with the XS rail.

Want to keep the scope as low as possible and the rifle as light and don't want to remove the rear sights. So I'll reach out to Ashley to see when they get back in stock, will probably go that route.

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