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1/14/2025 12:01:36 PM EDT
Anybody use this? It ranks by metal thickness, fill material and some other things.
I was happy my am sec safe was rated well at B but a few others I was looking at are rated F
Thought the database was pretty cool and saved me little time.
For my new place I was looking at a the biggest snap safe and it's got an F rating so back to the drawing board or try to move my AMSEC cross country (or get a short 75" framed vault door if I can find it)

https://www.holdupdisplays.com/db-xyz?srsltid=AfmBOoqLkWtzrNB7rX6m7EJvB1Q3n8XEcLw_HFnSaVgiR6YjBIgDbizR
have gun will travel

Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV.

We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns.

Lifetime NRA member SADLY
now GOA and ASA member!!!!!
1/14/2025 12:14:51 PM EDT
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Thanks OP!
1/14/2025 7:37:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tejas1836:
Thanks OP!
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I appreciate the information as well. Although, it is disappointing knowing the safe you paid $2000 for got an "F".
1/21/2025 4:13:49 PM EDT
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Nice to know I made a good investment in a Graffunder 10 years ago... Also nice to know that investment has more than doubled!!! Holy crap, the price of safes has shot through the roof.

I paid about $8k for my safe back in 2013. The same safe lists for almost $21k now...

I guess when I move in a few years, it will be worth it to pay to have the safe moved vs buying a new one and selling my current one locally.
1/21/2025 7:17:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NYresq1:
Nice to know I made a good investment in a Graffunder 10 years ago... Also nice to know that investment has more than doubled!!! Holy crap, the price of safes has shot through the roof.

I paid about $8k for my safe back in 2013. The same safe lists for almost $21k now...

I guess when I move in a few years, it will be worth it to pay to have the safe moved vs buying a new one and selling my current one locally.
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same with my AMSEC BF
in 2012 it was $2200 to the door and it's $6000 today
does not align with inflation at all

just like everything else

have gun will travel

Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV.

We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns.

Lifetime NRA member SADLY
now GOA and ASA member!!!!!
1/27/2025 9:14:09 AM EDT
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This is why I always advocate for a used reconditioned composite TL15, TL30, or TL30x6. Something with real security.
2/16/2025 10:31:00 PM EDT
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Interesting to see the BFX outshines the BF2 in terms of theft by their ratings 13 vs. 12 score.  Seems like the BFX is the better buy, but not sure if I fully trust that considering the 7250s in the BF2 is significantly heavier.
2/17/2025 12:16:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JoshNC:
This is why I always advocate for a used reconditioned composite TL15, TL30, or TL30x6. Something with real security.
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Originally Posted By JoshNC:
This is why I always advocate for a used reconditioned composite TL15, TL30, or TL30x6. Something with real security.

I agree I am finding lots of used TL safes for less than most RCS. They don't look fancy but man are they built much better.
My BF amsec I th


Originally Posted By ispeed:
Interesting to see the BFX outshines the BF2 in terms of theft by their ratings 13 vs. 12 score.  Seems like the BFX is the better buy, but not sure if I fully trust that considering the 7250s in the BF2 is significantly heavier.

maybe they mixed them up I got this off the net

The BFII series gun safe provides twice the protection of the BFX gun safe with a 2-1/4-inch-thick body, one-half-inch thick solid steel plate door and dual reinforced steel door frame It has 10 1-1/2-inch-wide chrome-plated bolts.

The BFII features American Security’s patented active hardplate design, spring-loaded relocker and gear cam housing with precision-engineered lock bolt protection to repell drill attacks.


BFX
3/8" steel plate door with two-way boltwork. It has a 2" thick body and has passed the UL Level 1 RSC


The BFII
features a NEW RSC UL test. This is a level II RSC test that utilizes the same tool complement as a TL-15 test. This is a two-man, 10-minute test. The old test only used tools typically found in a household and is a one-man, 5-minute test 1/2" solid steel plate door fIt also features a 12 gauge formed liner plus a 4 gauge plate liner which has a combined steel thickness of 1/2" plus drylite fill.
have gun will travel

Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV.

We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns.

Lifetime NRA member SADLY
now GOA and ASA member!!!!!
2/26/2025 6:11:02 PM EDT
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Great resource.  

I made it to #1..  The only correction I would recommend is the AMSEC RF series are neither UL or Intertek fire rated.  They are advertised at 2 HRS @ 1850 but for some reason aren’t Intertek tested like the BF, BFII and their other TL safes.   Even the plaque simply states “tested by the manufacturer at an  independent laboratory.”

Nobody I have talked to seems to know why.  

Sorry, I'm all out of empathy... but I have plenty of apathy left.

Schrödinger: "Hey Heisenberg, I'm going out of town. Can you watch my cat?"
Heisenberg: "I'm not certain."
2/27/2025 12:16:40 AM EDT
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That database is pretty subjective.
3/18/2025 12:07:55 AM EDT
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Sketchy site. I see some details that are listed incorrectly. I would advise to double check everything. I am a skeptic with a torch, saw and grinder. I can brake things.

I can cut any vault open quickly with less than a .25 thickness with a Milwaukee 6370-20 hand saw. It even says it will cut .75 with proper technique. I'd just bring 3 saws.

For .5 inch Evolution S210CCS.

Spend your money on an alarm, cameras with internet and cell backup and a monitoring service.

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