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Posted: 1/8/2025 10:46:37 PM EDT
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So my dad picked these up years ago because he thought they would fit in our SWD M11/9 and of course….they didn’t. They clearly are for 9x19 but I have not clue what they would fit. Any thoughts? Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
Looking for Colt AR-15 Serial # SP154280 My first AR
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Argentine PAM2 magazine that recon ordinance sold for the M11/9. https://mac-11.info/PAM2_mags.htm |
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Originally Posted By -JC-: Argentine PAM2 magazine that recon ordinance sold for the M11/9. https://mac-11.info/PAM2_mags.htm @-JC- Thanks for the quick response. Did Jerry Prasser market these in a dishonest manner or say “ they may fit” when he sold these? Just wondering if you know. Also….is it safe to say that these have no value? |
Looking for Colt AR-15 Serial # SP154280 My first AR
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Originally Posted By Tazaroo: @-JC- Thanks for the quick response. Did Jerry Prasser market these in a dishonest manner or say “ they may fit” when he sold these? Just wondering if you know. Also….is it safe to say that these have no value? I bought a handful from Jerry during the mag ban era and they all fit. However, a few needed the feed lips tweaked a bit. The difference is that the mag in the OP picture does not appear to have been modified to fit an M11/9 magwell. All of my Recon Ord / Jerry P. PAM-2 mags that wrap around metal part was clearly belt sanded down (you can seed the sanding marks) and they they appear to have been dunked in a park tank to cover up the removed finish. That little triangle indent on that wrap around piece of metal, the right side of that triangle indent on my mags is almost sanded completely flat/away. However, as posted above the ban expiring and shockwave's coming on the market pretty much killed the need for these converted PAM2 mags. |
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This is what my Recon Ord / Jerry Prassler M11/9 converted PAM2 mags that I bought probably circa 2001-ish look like. You can clearly see they have a not very pretty belt sander based modification in order to get them to fit the more narrow M11/9 grip frame. The other issue as noted above is that the top of these mags once modded will fit though the magwell but are still too wide for the OEM wire stock to slide in and close. If the stock is all the way into the receiver and you try and insert one of the converted PAM2 mags, the top of the mag will hit the retracted stock arms and not lock in. If the stock is out with the mag inserted and you try and retract the stock into the receiver the stock will hit the mag and not retract all the way and lock in. Other than the belt sand modification being not the prettiest and the stock retraction limitations they do work fine. They were a great option during the 94 AWB years but today just by ZMAGs as they are superior in every way. The unit(s) in the OP post don't appear to have as much material removal as mine do based off how prominent the little triangle area depression is left on his mags vs. the ones I have. 
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