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Posted: 6/6/2026 5:33:24 PM EDT
I have this m1 garand thats a winchester, serial number puts the production date at December 1942 to January 1943. It was rebuilt at the Springfield Armory in September of 1965. Thats all I know about it.         |
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A wartime Lock Bar rear sight and wartime gas cylinder lock. The postwar lock had a poppet valve and a Phillips screw look to it. The front sight wings look pretty flared. Iirc, H&R and IHC's had wider flairs than Springfields or Winchesters. I highly suggest Scott Duff's book "M1 GARAND OWNER'S GUIDE". It's a 126 page guide that will teach you how to oil/grease and care fir your rifle. Along with how to zero the sights and covers many accessories. I'd link to Amazon but have never figured out how it's done. |
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Srs data. 1275924M14E2012992SA MUSEUM SPAR 4023 1276329M14E2012992SA MUSEUM SPAR 3304 1277245 101953FT KNOX 1277498 112448USMC - SAN DIEGO |
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Originally Posted By Ameshawki: The lock bar sights and the early gas valve would not have survived a 1965 rebuild. I suspect someone "restored" this back to period correct. Thats kind of my thoughts as well, the op rod is also cut but it is the right draw number for the year of production so I dont know if they completely removed them during a rebuild or just cut them and kept them |
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Originally Posted By Ameshawki: The lock bar sights and the early gas valve would not have survived a 1965 rebuild. I suspect someone "restored" this back to period correct. I believe the cartouche is "restored" too. Windage knob is Winchester, elevation is Springfield. Front sight is Winchester. Winchester and IHC had the wider wings. Springfield and HR has narrow. Winchester op rod for sure. Post some pics of the markings on the trigger group,op rod, bolt,and barrel and we will be able to tell you more. |
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Barrel is a SA marked 9-52 ME - 1.5 TE - 4 Its apparently an imported barrel but I don't see any import stamps but I have NOT taken the front handguard off to see if its a blue sky marked barrel or what, i can only see SA 9-52 and the "p" pressure stamp |
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Originally Posted By Retroenthusiast67: Barrel is a SA marked 9-52 ME - 1.5 TE - 4 Its apparently an imported barrel but I don't see any import stamps but I have NOT taken the front handguard off to see if its a blue sky marked barrel or what, i can only see SA 9-52 and the "p" pressure stamp Import markings would be visible without removing anything,blue sky marked theirs like a billboard between the front sight and front handguard. What makes you think it's import? |
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52 barrels are a very common replacement barrel they made a ton though for a 65 SA rebuild I would expect a 1960's SA barrel. The P by handguard clip is punched not SA T stamped but not sure if they were still doing it that late . It could have been replaced in previous rebuild. With as much parts that have been swapped with this one anything is possible but that muzzle bothers me.. |
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Originally Posted By Retroenthusiast67: What would that reading of muzzle wear indicate? Indicates wear. Garands barrels are soft and muzzles get easily damaged and deformed from abuse so a gage reading is kinda pointless without visual inspection of muzzle and crown. I can make any barrel read 1 with a dead blow hammer. Like pointed out shoot it and see how it groups sometimes the most hideous muzzle and crown still shoot well. If it shoots bad a simple recrown might make a big difference. |
| I have ran around 40 rounds through it since I had it but i wasnt exactly shooting for accuracy, I just had a couple of 5 gallon plastic buckets lined up against a big dirt pile. It did perform flawlessly though, and I do have a winchester barrel that I was thinking about putting on it because it has a reading of 1 for ME and TE but if it doesnt make sense to then I will just sell it, im not going to be shooting matches with this rifle, its just going to be a range toy. |
| But i do believe that at some point in its life someone did try to "restore" it back to factory parts and thats why it has the early style parts on it, it would be cool to track down if it was ever in an actual war but I heard that is pretty impossible to do. I mean as it sits, is this like a collectable rifle or just the same value as something the CMP has to offer? |
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I believe that a higher Throat reading was due to blanks being fired in it. Some rifles with higher numbers still shoot fine, you just have to put it on paper and see. |
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“In my opinion, the M1 Rifle is the greatest battle implement ever devised” - George S. Patton
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“In my opinion, the M1 Rifle is the greatest battle implement ever devised” - George S. Patton
LETS GO REDWINGS!!!
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Originally Posted By Retroenthusiast67: But i do believe that at some point in its life someone did try to "restore" it back to factory parts and thats why it has the early style parts on it, it would be cool to track down if it was ever in an actual war but I heard that is pretty impossible to do. I mean as it sits, is this like a collectable rifle or just the same value as something the CMP has to offer? It's a shooter,with a more desirable receiver. Mix of parts,fake cartouche,ect. In my mind still more desirable than current CMP stuff,but just a good example of a M1. Nothing special. If you have a ww2 Winchester barrel with an actual 1/1 reading it's almost as valuable as the rifle. If you give the bolt and trigger group markings I could tell you more. You're never going to be able to prove it definitively,but a 1943 rifle not seeing battle would be unusual. We needed all we could get and stateside guards and such were mostly issued 03A3s or 1917s. Garands went to combat troops. |
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