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Originally Posted By jtb33: what will it cost? MSRP is $4248.99 for the pistol and $4348.99 for the rifle. This is the price for the complete duel feed system. We will have upper only available not sure if that will be on launch date but those will be priced at $3599 for the 8" and $3699 for the 16" again this is all MSRP so there is room for dealers and distributors to buy. Dealers will be able to be cheaper than MSRP and still make money. |
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Originally Posted By CleverNickname: How does the belt bag attach to the lower? Does the magwell work as the belt bag mount? I can only discuss what can be seen clearly in the images. Many cool features will be revealed in the coming weeks. |
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Weren't these uppers about $2k a while back? Is it that much more for labor/materiel nowadays, or because of frt expected demand? |
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Originally Posted By MisterPX: Weren't these uppers about $2k a while back? Is it that much more for labor/materiel nowadays, or because of frt expected demand? This is nothing like the original. Also pricing reflects distributor and dealer pricing so dealers should be a little cheaper than we are and everyone make money. We have multiple patens in process and the cost will be reflected when we share all those features. However yes 10 years ago the MSRP was $2495 with an introductory price of $1895 for the upper, which did get up to about $2295 before we stopped production. It will still be the most affordable production beltfed system on the market for the complete firearm which is duel feed. Pricing has nothing to do with FRT, most of the customers that have been bugging me the past 15 months have full auto lowers. If you go put $2495 in an inflation calculator for 2016 it will spit out $3341.80 as today's equivalent so $3599 and $3699 for the new upper isn't that far off. There is currently an original FM-9 on gunbroker for 7k. That is a bit high but I have seen them sell this year for $4500 |
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re. "upper can be used on mil spec ar15 lowers" How about with a RDIAS? gtg? |
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Originally Posted By HDSledge: re. "upper can be used on mil spec ar15 lowers" How about with a RDIAS? gtg? You can use an RDIAS in the complete system or get the upper for belt only on your own lower. Our lower is designed to work with all the AR15 stuff and the upper is good on AR15/M16 full auto with the exception of lightning links. However John Ciszek has already reached out to be a dealer for those owners as he did the bolt modifications on our original FM-9 for lightning link customers. |
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Originally Posted By 9mmBeltfed: You can use an RDIAS in the complete system or get the upper for belt only on your own lower. Our lower is designed to work with all the AR15 stuff and the upper is good on AR15/M16 full auto with the exception of lightning links. However John Ciszek has already reached out to be a dealer for those owners as he did the bolt modifications on our original FM-9 for lightning link customers. How would a belt bag attach to the mil-spec lower? I've got my lower spring and buffer tuned for several uppers: CMMG RDB 9mm, .300BLK, and 5.56 uppers. Does the FM-9 also use a delayed blowback bolt? |
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Originally Posted By 9mmBeltfed: It comes with a mag block like the original one did I didn't even know there was a FM-9D until I caught your post. One more thing I don't need that I have to have. Thanks.
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Originally Posted By HDSledge: I didn't even know there was a FM-9D until I caught your post. One more thing I don't need that I have to have. Thanks. ![]() Yes so the FM-9 is the original beltfed upper that we launched 10 years ago. About 7 years ago it went out of production because our FX-9 9mm PCC took over. The brace hiccup slowed things down that we could make a beltfed again. The boss did a bunch of new stuff with it and now we have a complete system but still has the ability to use an AR lower like the original. Yes its another thing you need to have lol I have a ton of emails from people who were disappointed they just found out about the beltfed and saw it was out of production. Those folks are about to be happy. |
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Originally Posted By 9mmBeltfed: However yes 10 years ago the MSRP was $2495 with an introductory price of $1895 for the upper, which did get up to about $2295 before we stopped production Damn, ten years ago. Well, that explains a lot. I think now I was planning on running wolf steel case thru it. ETA: didn't there use to be a carry handle on the barrel? Yes, my memory isn't that good, so it may have been on the handguard |
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