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Fightlite announced they're releasing a new dual feed upper. Price $3,995 It's a 16.25" dual feed upper without the quick-change barrel set up of the MCR/Raptor. KEY FEATURES Drop-On Upper Receiver Assembly that upgrades your AR15/M16/M4 type lower receivers or rifles 5.56 x 45mm NATO / .223 REM 16.25” Heavy Profile Machine Gun Barrel 1:7” RHT, ½”-28 TPI Short-Stroke Gas Piston Operation Dual-Feed™ - Accepts ALL AR15/M16 Magazines & M27 Linked Ammunition Precision Machined 7075-T6 Billet Upper Receiver, Feed Cover and Charging Handle Precision Machined Feed Tray Finish – Manganese Phosphate & Type III, Class 2 Hardcoat anodize - Black Full-Auto Bolt Carrier Handguard Style – Free Float MIL-STD 1913 Rail Ships with Main Action Spring, Bolt Catch, Carbine Stock Spacer, (100) M27 Links & Operator’s Manual Made In USA |
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I was gonna get one, but since I have a MCR and raptor, I’m going the Lima Sox for the fixed barrel option so I can put the rail I’d rather have on it. In my opinion working currently in the gun industry to many people complaining about prices with Fightlite and so the created an even cheaper way to get into it but still kinda missed the mark. The people I talk to about beltfeds when they see mine, I’ve let em know the pros and cons and point them to the Lima as a potential solid entry level price point beltfed in 556. |
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Originally Posted By redman797: I was gonna get one, but since I have a MCR and raptor, I’m going the Lima Sox for the fixed barrel option so I can put the rail I’d rather have on it. In my opinion working currently in the gun industry to many people complaining about prices with Fightlite and so the created an even cheaper way to get into it but still kinda missed the mark. The people I talk to about beltfeds when they see mine, I’ve let em know the pros and cons and point them to the Lima as a potential solid entry level price point beltfed in 556. I would say that I would lean toward the LIMA SIX for fixed barrel, as well. The reason being if I do cook the barrel, I can service it with OTS parts. If I want to change the set-up? OTS parts. For cost, it is looking like it will also be more approachable, and hopefully upgradable over time. That said, the DFX does have some advantages, as well: dual feed, and piston (maybe the LS is also piston?). That and the company is established and supported, which may matter to folks in the immediate who have $4k to jump in. |
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Thanks for backing me up guys, I wont let you down! On a related note, first beta test footage: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNE4ih_JlRt/?igsh=aWZhaWViZXFqajB4 |
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Originally Posted By Type7SOT: Thanks for backing me up guys, I wont let you down! On a related note, first beta test footage: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNE4ih_JlRt/?igsh=aWZhaWViZXFqajB4 that is great, Harvey! |
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That 8 inch setup is killer looking. I’ve got one of the new Freedom Ordnance 8 inch FM-9D 9mm belt fed uppers due in today. I have the complete L6 upper on pre order. I’ll probably get one of the KAK short L6 barrels when they become available. I believe they will have a 12 or 12.5 inch offering. Bad thing, right now the range I shoot FA is temporarily closed. |
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors: Im going to hold out for the lima six a little longer but if I dont see it in stock and shipping in the next month or so Ill go this route. It being dual feed is pretty cool. Was hoping to see from users how well it runs. We are doing another round of orders on friday, and our first batch orders will be shipping in December. |
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors: Im going to hold out for the lima six a little longer but if I dont see it in stock and shipping in the next month or so Ill go this route. It being dual feed is pretty cool. Was hoping to see from users how well it runs. I've used a number of ares/fightlight units. The dual feed is really overrated. Using a mag in it is just shooting a really heavy AR15. I was using one a couple weeks ago that "runs any ammo" and it still kept choking on new links. Worked better if you oiled the whole belt before feeding it in. Probably works better with used links. We ended up shooting a bunch of mags through it really wasn't fun. Id rather shoot a mag through a cheap light AR than a heavy beltfed that isnt beltfed. |
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Originally Posted By SGT-Fish: I've used a number of ares/fightlight units. The dual feed is really overrated. Using a mag in it is just shooting a really heavy AR15. I was using one a couple weeks ago that "runs any ammo" and it still kept choking on new links. Worked better if you oiled the whole belt before feeding it in. Probably works better with used links. We ended up shooting a bunch of mags through it really wasn't fun. Id rather shoot a mag through a cheap light AR than a heavy beltfed that isnt beltfed. +1 I had two Shrikes. All it takes is a single tight/tighter link and it stops. I'm also not at all interested in spending countless hours stretching links, then have one single link from my M249 get mixed in with with my "Shrike" pre-stretched links, and it shits the bed. Tony |
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Originally Posted By Type7SOT: Thanks for backing me up guys, I wont let you down! On a related note, first beta test footage: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNE4ih_JlRt/?igsh=aWZhaWViZXFqajB4 Nice! Already have a FightLite MCR and an M249S but could see picking one of these up at some point down the road. |
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One thing to consider with these DFXs and the new MCRs is that they have changed the geometry of the rear receiver lug and auto sear pocket to where they don’t work with any FRT on the market without modifying or milling the upper (or FRT housing in the case of the Rare Breed). I don’t know why they did this but after a good bit of headache with my new MCR and much discussion and photos shared on Reddit I realized that the DFXs are done like this as well. In short I’d get a Lima 6 if you are looking at a DFX. |
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Originally Posted By Bunn19: One thing to consider with these DFXs and the new MCRs is that they have changed the geometry of the rear receiver lug and auto sear pocket to where they don’t work with any FRT on the market without modifying or milling the upper (or FRT housing in the case of the Rare Breed). I don’t know why they did this but after a good bit of headache with my new MCR and much discussion and photos shared on Reddit I realized that the DFXs are done like this as well. In short I’d get a Lima 6 if you are looking at a DFX. Crazy, do you have a picture showing the change? |
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Originally Posted By Bunn19: One thing to consider with these DFXs and the new MCRs is that they have changed the geometry of the rear receiver lug and auto sear pocket to where they don’t work with any FRT on the market without modifying or milling the upper (or FRT housing in the case of the Rare Breed). I don’t know why they did this but after a good bit of headache with my new MCR and much discussion and photos shared on Reddit I realized that the DFXs are done like this as well. In short I’d get a Lima 6 if you are looking at a DFX. Thank you for posting this. Not a lot of great comparisons on the upper options, with most commenting on cost difference. I found a DFX for the same price as the Lima6, and have been trying to figure out the nuances. Having to fuck around with FRT comparability alone makes it an easy choice (L6). |
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Originally Posted By Bunn19: One thing to consider with these DFXs and the new MCRs is that they have changed the geometry of the rear receiver lug and auto sear pocket to where they don’t work with any FRT on the market without modifying or milling the upper (or FRT housing in the case of the Rare Breed). I don’t know why they did this but after a good bit of headache with my new MCR and much discussion and photos shared on Reddit I realized that the DFXs are done like this as well. In short I’d get a Lima 6 if you are looking at a DFX. They likely did this because the shrike/MCR uppers have a history of breaking off the rear mounting lug |
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Haven’t tried the standard RB (L3) with mine, being I have the C3 one on the way… which can fit in the Colt lowers. Figured less chance of an interference. I just got a DFX yesterday. Very happy with it. Does have the charging handle and feed roller assembly from the MCR. I was going to order those to swap in… saved like $500. Ordered a bunch of nut sacks and links, instead. |
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Originally Posted By Jmolden87: This, or the MFR56, which has actually been adopted by foreign militaries? I'm not sure, but it should be noted that there are actually two companies in Turkey making Fightlite clones. System Defence and Sarsilmaz. |
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The MFR has its own issues with FRTs. The upper is open on the pocket that would retain something like an AZ regulator. Also the examples I have shot were all short in the bolt carrier area that would interact with a trip lever, so even the RB or Partisan in stock form won't work with it. A new carrier or modified FRT would need to be made for it to work. |
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Originally Posted By LimaSix: I'm not sure, but it should be noted that there are actually two companies in Turkey making Fightlite clones. System Defence and Sarsilmaz. That's interesting news about Sarsilmaz. Originally Posted By TZLVredmist: The MFR has its own issues with FRTs. The upper is open on the pocket that would retain something like an AZ regulator. Also the examples I have shot were all short in the bolt carrier area that would interact with a trip lever, so even the RB or Partisan in stock form won't work with it. A new carrier or modified FRT would need to be made for it to work. Ive run almost 1k of Wolf/Tula steel cased through a MFR56 from Cloak using a supersafety. Brand new links and on the adverse gas setting. It'd hiccup occasionally but it seemed like it was a buffer issue, it didnt have the included buffer installed |
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Originally Posted By Jmolden87: Interesting. I’ve heard of all of these issues with the fightlite’s reliability, I wonder what design changes would make the Turkish copies function better. It doesn’t look like the Sarsilmaz version is being imported. At least not yet. The SAR one is open bolt. So that probably helps |
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Originally Posted By AZ_Hi_Desert: If it is open bolt it can't be imported. Open bolt=machine gun to the ATF. I meant that it helps with reliability. Not importability. Anyway, its just an upper. It wouldnt be a MG until it was installed on a lower. So many full auto M16 owners would probably enjoy them |
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Originally Posted By SGT-Fish: I meant that it helps with reliability. Not importability. Anyway, its just an upper. It wouldnt be a MG until it was installed on a lower. So many full auto M16 owners would probably enjoy them They do not appear to be compatible with an M16 FCG, if you look at pictures on their website, the trigger and hammer pins are in completely different locations. |
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Originally Posted By LimaSix: They do not appear to be compatible with an M16 FCG, if you look at pictures on their website, the trigger and hammer pins are in completely different locations. Well of course not if they are open bolt. But there are open bolt FCGs for M16s in existence. And the designs wouldnt be hard to copy if you couldnt find the parts. |
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Originally Posted By Jmolden87: I was referring to the MFR56 fightlight upper copy(?) that is currently available in the US to civilians (and therefore not open bolt). Seems to be a better system than the fightlight just from the reviews I’ve seen so far. Seems to work with SS as well My Fightlite Raptor works quite well with a SS.  Fightlite Raptor 90+ round Super Safe dump |
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So, pieced the DFX and my Black Widow Arms lower… very happy with it. Have the RB C3 trigger in it, no issues with dry firing. One thing I’m wondering is how the gas system takes down. From how I understand, there is a pin to pull out, gas block moves forward… then the piston comes apart/out. Can’t figure how to get the pin out. Head looks sort of like a cam pin… then a Torx screw on the opposite side. Didn’t get a picture of it… will try to, but might not be able to until next week. Sort of cleaned/lubed the upper when work slowed, but didn’t go too far into messing with that part. Didn’t have the tools to try it, either. Also, grease the feed lever track? First belt fed… |
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