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1/9/2026 1:02:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Migmaqman][Edited]
so purchased these for the mag collection , everything looked good in the pics at least to me so i purchased , i will not say from who as they are very reputable and have dealt with them for years and they handled it when i contacted them professionally, swiftly , apologetically , and amicably so no need to drag their good name into it , im only doing this to bring these to light for what they are

when i received them two things immediately stood out , first was only 7 faint spot welds on the fold  , the second was the OM stamp was up higher than the other examples i had seen , this led me into a deep dive , i found a link to a E-book on M14 mags , downloaded it , fantastic resource , its free and downloadable from Lulu which has a very high Rep score

https://www.lulu.com/shop/lee-emerson/pictorial-m14-magazine-identification-guide-version-19/ebook/product-22539324.html?page=1&pageSize=4

i then found a archived thread on "The M14 Forum" and lo and behold the discussion was about the exact mags , right down to the pouch and lettering , even same date

https://www.m14forum.com/threads/winchester-magazine-question.101825/

i have taken pics of the issues and will give explanation with each issue as pictured

first the mags , one in sealed wrap , the other opened , wrap still present







spot welds on the fold were one of the initial red flags , they were so faint i had to wipe a layer of oil to count , there were 7 , should be 11




next was the placement of the OM stamp , it was higher on the mag than what i had seen on others



OM stamp on a good mag



next the latch plate , should have 5 ,4 each corner then the 5th center low  , these mags have 6 , 4 each corner 2 center high/low



next the follower , should be OM marked left side  , also should have 3 round spot welds , this follower is absent the OM and has 2 oval spot welds





i have read that the springs are another tell tale however i do not see anything wrong with this spring , plenty of tension and does not appear "crude" as the fakes are described  , im including pics of the springs in case someone sees something they can elaborate on





these are out there , while researching i came across a advert for these , they picture a case full , this is NOT where i purchased  , ive never bought anything off that site , just merely showing these are around so be aware








1/9/2026 8:11:27 PM EDT
[#1]
Seems like a lot of work to fake these mags. Is it not possible these are just a variant?

How much are the selling for?
1/10/2026 6:14:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Migmaqman][Edited] [#2]
when i thought they were old new stock viet nam 1970 they were $95 + shipping , i thought the same thing when they were counterfeiting Sig Romeo Red Dots and selling them for $100 , scammers will be scammers , look at the weirdos standing out at traffic lights pan handling in 100 heat , or 15 degree snowy weather all day , wouldnt be easier and better to take that same time and effort and get a actual job?

no matter how good they look at glance , and how bad you may wish them to be a unicorn , the documentation of what real mags  have/need to be legit that has been compiled by those that know far more than you or i say , nope
1/10/2026 1:54:18 PM EDT
[#3]
I haven't been following m14 stuff since I got rid of my M1A.

Back in the day the chinese mags were coming in covered with grease and wrapped in wax paper with no attempt at duplicating USGI sealed packages.
1/10/2026 2:18:57 PM EDT
[#4]
those old chicom mags run , i use to have some , gave them to a nephew and he still uses them

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