Originally Posted By RenegadeX:


Lets pick the hardest district in the nation to get a pro-gun ruling.

Originally Posted By SWIRE:


I've never understood why the GOP isn't proactive in getting things done.  It seems easy enough.  Find a friendly pro-gun state with good courts, have a Republican controlled city "ban" firearms.  When it goes to court in a friendly pro-gun court the city provides a very weak defense and the court rules against the ban.  It goes to the next higher court who is also pro-gun and ruling against the ban is affirmed.  The city then drops everything and the ruling against the ban can sit there.

Originally Posted By backbencher:


 What pro-gun city is going to let their Republican representatives ban guns in their town?  This is way outside the scope of this forum.

Originally Posted By SWIRE:


A smart one would.  A little strategic planning and they set the precedent for the entire state.  It's better than trying to fight a well funded liberal state, with liberal courts, in a liberal US Appeals area, and then praying the higher courts don't screw us.  

Originally Posted By backbencher:


This is completely outside the scope of this forum, but this is the most idiotic take on local politics I've ever heard.  A smart conservative city should legalize all drugs to get them banned.  A smart liberal city should ban all abortions to get them legalized.  A smart X city should do Y - something that the X voters would never tolerate, and recall all their X politicians, and the new X office holders would immediately repeal Y.

X voters elect X politicians to enact the X platform.  Y voters elect Y politicians to enact the Y platform.  X voters won't tolerate X politicians enacting Y, no matter how smart it seems in your judicial war-gaming strategy simulation.

Normally you're pretty smart and your posts are interesting & intelligent.  This is not one of those times.

Originally Posted By SWIRE:


No one ever claimed politics is smart or intelligent.  I was responding to RenegadeX's comment about Bubble's sig line, Heller taking on DC.  

FFLs are affected the most by over reaching gun laws, heavy handed but ambiguous government bureaucracy, liberal courts, the ill informed that do things out of negligence, and the criminals who violate laws/rules intentionally.  

Instead of letting the liberals' create the worst fight imaginable how about we be proactive, construct something that will go in our favor and if it doesn't the people who can reverse the policy/law are already in place to do so.  The parties involved are aligned ahead of time.  The city passes a ban effective immediately on a Monday morning, a clean law abiding military guy goes to an FFL, who knows the plan, and tries to buy a semi-auto and is denied.  The lawsuit is already pre-written and filed with the court immediately after the denial.  The local judge picks it up and  issues a stay blocking the new law until an a higher court can hear it.  Now the ban exists, there is someone denied their rights, but the ban is on hold so no one else is affected, and the pro-gun judges will be working on it going forward. It's a political strategy that requires a lot of planning, forward thinking, and a bunch of people lined up with the intent of pushing the issue.  The FFL would a key player in the documentation of everything.