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Posted: 4/22/2026 9:39:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dana][Edited]
 How effective are iron sights with short radius for slugs out 50 yards. |
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Shortened sight radius never improves accurate shooting, it needs to earn its way onto the gun for other reasons. "Aim small" requires the longest sight radius possible. |
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EDIT: Oh, now I see the photo (it was edited in). That's a different kettle of knives. You'd probably do just as well to ditch the rear sight (or install a ghost ring on the receiver). BTW, that hardly seems like the best choice for shooting shit at 50 yards. That's more of an across the room sort of gun . . . which makes the whole sight set thing pretty questionable. My original response: Assuming we're not talking NFA type shotguns, the minimum barrel length on a shotgun is 18 inches. Compare the resulting sight radius of that gun to a 16" AR-15. If you can shoot an AR carbine effectively with open sights, you can surely shoot a shotgun effectively. That's especially true if you had a receiver mounted ghost ring. Honestly, with a proper/consistent cheek weld you should be able to get pretty good results with a shotgun and slugs at 50 yards just using a bead front sight. We're not talking one-hole precision groups (slugs aren't really meant for that) but good enough to hit big targets. There's no need to over think this. |
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Originally Posted By Bladeswitcher: EDIT: Oh, now I see the photo (it was edited in). That's a different kettle of knives. You'd probably do just as well to ditch the rear sight (or install a ghost ring on the receiver). BTW, that hardly seems like the best choice for shooting shit at 50 yards. That's more of an across the room sort of gun . . . which makes the whole sight set thing pretty questionable. My original response: Assuming we're not talking NFA type shotguns, the minimum barrel length on a shotgun is 18 inches. Compare the resulting sight radius of that gun to a 16" AR-15. If you can shoot an AR carbine effectively with open sights, you can surely shoot a shotgun effectively. That's especially true if you had a receiver mounted ghost ring. Honestly, with a proper/consistent cheek weld you should be able to get pretty good results with a shotgun and slugs at 50 yards just using a bead front sight. We're not talking one-hole precision groups (slugs aren't really meant for that) but good enough to hit big targets. There's no need to over think this. I probably wouldn't have commented if the photo had loaded. The best way to know in this case is to shoot the gun. At a pie plate, I suppose. |
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Originally Posted By Bladeswitcher: EDIT: Oh, now I see the photo (it was edited in). That's a different kettle of knives. You'd probably do just as well to ditch the rear sight (or install a ghost ring on the receiver). BTW, that hardly seems like the best choice for shooting shit at 50 yards. That's more of an across the room sort of gun . . . which makes the whole sight set thing pretty questionable. My original response: Assuming we're not talking NFA type shotguns, the minimum barrel length on a shotgun is 18 inches. Compare the resulting sight radius of that gun to a 16" AR-15. If you can shoot an AR carbine effectively with open sights, you can surely shoot a shotgun effectively. That's especially true if you had a receiver mounted ghost ring. Honestly, with a proper/consistent cheek weld you should be able to get pretty good results with a shotgun and slugs at 50 yards just using a bead front sight. We're not talking one-hole precision groups (slugs aren't really meant for that) but good enough to hit big targets. There's no need to over think this. Thanks, i didnt want to get too detailed but i should have given some more info. It will be an SBS. Doing a Remington 11 with probably about 13" barrel. On the 11 the barrel recoils about 3". So best i would have is about 10" sight radius. I would like to use it with slugs or 00 for deer in a shotgun only area of heavy brush. Plan is to send it to Rose and have it done by them with chokes and some type of sight. It has a rib and a bead or fiber optic front would be easy. But i have also seen where they have put a nice adjustable rear sight dovetailed into a rib. Seeung that is what got me thinking about having real sights even if they have a short radius. The Remington 11 has a thin reciver and mounting a red dot or rear sight to the reciver presents some problems. But could probably be overcome with some work. I also have 2 barrels and would like be able to swap them. So avoiding putting things on the receiver would be nice. Just exploring options. |
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Originally Posted By bluedog82: I have no idea why you would try to run slugs out of a shotgun that short, doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. Not trying to be argumentative, but why not? If i have to use a shotgun in some areas hunting thick cover, why not use a 14" barreled gun as oposed to a 18.5 or longer? Also, calling coyotes usses animal distress and pray animal sounds. It has happened that you can get mountain lions coming to investigate. Its not a bad idea to have your hunting partner watching your 6 with a shotgun. Obviously i would use buck or shot for that but again the SBS would be nice for that since you are really carrying it all day and not really planning on shooting it alot. I know some of that is more a sbs argument than about sights. But i dont see anthing that a longer barrel would do for me that a 14" barrel would not do better. Except give a longer sight radius and a little less muzzel blast which is a fair argument. |
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I have two Remington SBS with sights like that, and 870 and an 11-87. The 870's are more like express sights. I think they work fine, much better than just a bead sight. Obviously a short sight radius doesn't give you the precision of a linger sight radius. But that SBS barrels sight radius is twice as much as most pistols, and I can easily hit a deer at 100 yards with iron sights. One of my 870 barrels is out being threaded for choke tube. When it comes back I'll put a rifle chike tube in it and try some sabotage slugs. |
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Originally Posted By VaFish: I have two Remington SBS with sights like that, and 870 and an 11-87. The 870's are more like express sights. I think they work fine, much better than just a bead sight. Obviously a short sight radius doesn't give you the precision of a linger sight radius. But that SBS barrels sight radius is twice as much as most pistols, and I can easily hit a deer at 100 yards with iron sights. One of my 870 barrels is out being threaded for choke tube. When it comes back I'll put a rifle chike tube in it and try some sabotage slugs. Thank you. Thats kind of what i was thinking. Its still much better than pistols have. |
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Originally Posted By VaFish: I have two Remington SBS with sights like that, and 870 and an 11-87. The 870's are more like express sights. I think they work fine, much better than just a bead sight. Obviously a short sight radius doesn't give you the precision of a linger sight radius. But that SBS barrels sight radius is twice as much as most pistols, and I can easily hit a deer at 100 yards with iron sights. One of my 870 barrels is out being threaded for choke tube. When it comes back I'll put a rifle chike tube in it and try some sabotage slugs. I took have a few Remington 870 SBS with factory rifle sights - smooth bores. They can be very accurate at the range and on a bench if you "aim" and use decent ammo - I like the factory rifle sights -probably because I grew up with them, but ghost rings are "faster" for bringing up and aiming. As stated above perfectly acceptable for deer hunting. Practice and shot placement matter most of all. |
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Originally Posted By dana: https://i.imgur.com/d4GEDul.jpeg How effective are iron sights with short radius for slugs out 50 yards. Found a picture of my 11-87. Its sight radius is about what you are proposing on your model 11. 
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Originally Posted By dana: https://i.imgur.com/d4GEDul.jpeg How effective are iron sights with short radius for slugs out 50 yards. Folks hunt with handguns with shorter sight radii. Sometimes up to 100 yards. With a shotgun you have an advantage of having a stock for stability and a consistent cheek weld. |
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