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4/28/2020 9:35:09 PM EDT
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100% 17-4
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I've stayed relatively employed most of my adult life. That should count as miracle #1 - Wandering_Moses
4/28/2020 10:17:26 PM EDT
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I've stayed relatively employed most of my adult life. That should count as miracle #1 - Wandering_Moses
4/28/2020 10:36:32 PM EDT
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These all yours? What’s the story/details?
4/29/2020 7:43:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigWaylon:

These all yours? What’s the story/details?
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Originally Posted By BigWaylon:

These all yours? What’s the story/details?

Haha no, just passing on some pictures from Facebook as I know not everyone cares for it or has an account. Those are showing off all the mounting options.
I've stayed relatively employed most of my adult life. That should count as miracle #1 - Wandering_Moses
4/29/2020 7:44:42 AM EDT
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Also from ECCO’s Facebook and addresses some questions I’ve seen here and in other threads:

Jerrica and I are revamping & refining our system for keeping track of inquiries and orders, creating multiple new queues & spread sheets to try to make sure we get back to everyone on everything in a timely fashion.  We're just getting so many contacts from so many places, I can't commit it all to memory anymore.

Once we get this where we envision it, there should be no more issues with forgetting to get back to people who were wanting to place orders at a time we weren't taking them.  That said, I'm sure there will be a few I can't remember or find my notes for as we create these new lists, so if you had inquired about custom parts but have not heard back from us for a little bit, please drop us a line about what it was you were wanting so we can get your name in the queue to call back for order taking as we get caught up.  I don't want anyone to feel like we aren't interested in helping them with their needs.  That's not the case at all.  We just had to come up with a better system to accommodate the increased demand, make sure nothing slips through the cracks going forward.
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I've stayed relatively employed most of my adult life. That should count as miracle #1 - Wandering_Moses
4/29/2020 4:31:44 PM EDT
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Good. Lord. That looks better than dollar strippers in St. Johns.

Just waiting for my stamp. Really hoping I got in front of that silencer shop order. Day 15. Hopefully only another week or two.
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4/30/2020 11:10:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By USAFtacFANAC:


Good. Lord. That looks better than dollar strippers in St. Johns.
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So you have been to the Cotton Club...
4/30/2020 11:12:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hoser:



So you have been to the Cotton Club...
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I have no idea what you are talking about good sir.
Although I do miss taking rookies there and getting them a shower.
Science is not about proving anything right, It is about proving something can't be wrong.
5/1/2020 12:56:24 PM EDT
[#9]
I get really excited seeing all the pics from Ecco.  I keep squinting at them seeing if there is an 8 inch ti .30 direct thread.
5/2/2020 5:08:48 PM EDT
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I personally love the Tipton gun vise casting couch. At the risk of sounding weird, Nick has become kind of internet famous. I’m proud of the fact that he has worked on my can and I have the casting couch pictures to prove it.
"Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes."
— Jack Handey
5/2/2020 6:20:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HPIguy][Edited] [#11]
Did somebody say casting couch? Anyone that says you can't polish a turd obviously hasn't had Nick do any work for them. After talking to him, and verifying that my cheapo $13 solvent trap tube would hold up just fine for .22lr (don't own or shoot .17 or .22wm), he put this together for me. Even did a few touches I wasn't expecting. I'm blown away to say the least. I can't wait to run some rounds through it. Huge thanks Nick!!

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5/2/2020 6:23:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Girthrockwel:
I personally love the Tipton gun vise casting couch. At the risk of sounding weird, Nick has become kind of internet famous. I’m proud of the fact that he has worked on my can and I have the casting couch pictures to prove it. 
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I can certainly see how/why he stays so damn busy. I’m just glad to have a tech thread that made it past two pages
I've stayed relatively employed most of my adult life. That should count as miracle #1 - Wandering_Moses
5/2/2020 6:23:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HPIguy:
Did somebody say casting couch?  Anyone that says you can't polish a turd obviously hasn't had Nick do any work for them. After talking to him, and verifying that my cheapo $13 solvent trap tube would hold up just fine for .22lr (don't own or shoot .17 or .22wm), he put this together for me. Even did a few touches I wasn't expecting. I'm blown away to say the least. I can't wait to run some rounds through it. Huge thanks Nick!!

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Hell yea. That’s awesome. I assume the tube is aluminum?
I've stayed relatively employed most of my adult life. That should count as miracle #1 - Wandering_Moses
5/2/2020 6:31:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MSUbulldog21:

Hell yea. That’s awesome. I assume the tube is aluminum?
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I couldn't agree more. Yes, it is aluminum. So .22lr only, which is fine with me as it's what I shoot the most.
5/2/2020 6:47:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HPIguy:
Did somebody say casting couch?  Anyone that says you can't polish a turd obviously hasn't had Nick do any work for them. After talking to him, and verifying that my cheapo $13 solvent trap tube would hold up just fine for .22lr (don't own or shoot .17 or .22wm), he put this together for me. Even did a few touches I wasn't expecting. I'm blown away to say the least. I can't wait to run some rounds through it. Huge thanks Nick!!

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That looks good. I wish I'd know better and had him do that for me. I just gave him my project and had him work with what was there. My mistake was shooting my DA Mask on my 22/45 before I shot the re-core. It was night and day. The re-core (as is) belongs on a rifle for full potential. I'd be curious as to your thoughts on how yours sounds on the end of that pistol.
5/2/2020 6:50:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chargerdude70:


That looks good. I wish I'd know better and had him do that for me. I just gave him my project and had him work with what was there. My mistake was shooting my DA Mask on my 22/45 before I shot the re-core. It was night and day. The re-core (as is) belongs on a rifle for full potential. I'd be curious as to your thoughts on how yours sounds on the end of that pistol. 
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I'll certainly let you know. My custom upper for my 22/45 arrived a couple of weeks ago. Can't wait to try it out on that, my .22AR, my 10/22, my P 22...
5/2/2020 8:03:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HPIguy:


I'll certainly let you know. My custom upper for my 22/45 arrived a couple of weeks ago. Can't wait to try it out on that, my .22AR, my 10/22, my P 22...
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The AR in my sig is a dedicated 4" 22LR

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5/3/2020 2:58:13 PM EDT
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Would love to know the story on the taper ends.
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5/3/2020 11:28:07 PM EDT
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Most recent re-core Nick just finished up for me, cant wait to put it on the 22 charger



5/4/2020 1:24:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Garmin1000f:
Most recent re-core Nick just finished up for me, cant wait to put it on the 22 charger

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Beautiful! What’s the OAL on that?
I've stayed relatively employed most of my adult life. That should count as miracle #1 - Wandering_Moses
5/4/2020 9:50:27 AM EDT
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Damn, this thread has me thinking about another Form 1 build.  This time for a 1911.  Gotta start investigating that option now......  I bet Nick could do an awesome .45 ACP recore.  Might have to drop him an email and get his input.
I’ve got a bright stainless Colt GCNM with Mother or Pearl grips.  Might be time for a bright stainless polished can to go with it for the ultimate BBQ rig.
5/7/2020 5:31:51 PM EDT
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WWWOOOOOOOOO Tax stamp came in 5 minutes ago!

Sent the email off to Nick to see what I need to get it out to him.

Also, I need to find someone or somehow to drill the end cap... I did not want to look too early in case it got denied. I am pretty pumped right now.
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5/7/2020 5:36:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By USAFtacFANAC:
WWWOOOOOOOOO Tax stamp came in 5 minutes ago!

Sent the email off to Nick to see what I need to get it out to him.

Also, I need to find someone or somehow to drill the end cap... I did not want to look too early in case it got denied. I am pretty pumped right now.
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Cool beans.. congrats.  I submitted on the 16th last month so should be soon.  Look up machine shops in your area. Bound to be someone with a lathe.  Drill it just large enough to pass your caliber. Smaller the better so he can clean it up to his liking.
5/7/2020 5:45:40 PM EDT
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I was the 15th, you should be super close.
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5/8/2020 2:44:52 PM EDT
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A hole was drilled this morning... 5 hours driving around the city. Thank god it was actually done on a lathe, so I hope that makes Nick happy. The little guy is now on its way to Nick to become something better!

Now the real waiting begins.
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5/14/2020 12:18:54 PM EDT
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From Nick’s Facebook:

“Another  tubeless recore, but the largest one I've done to date - 1.75" x 12".   Optimized for .458 SOCOM, it's quite large, but not terribly heavy.   100% 17-4 H900 like others, barely heavier than an AAC 7.62 SDN-6.  The  weight on the scale is with the direct thread mount installed.”

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I've stayed relatively employed most of my adult life. That should count as miracle #1 - Wandering_Moses
5/14/2020 5:46:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MSUbulldog21:
From Nick’s Facebook:

“Another  tubeless recore, but the largest one I've done to date - 1.75" x 12".   Optimized for .458 SOCOM, it's quite large, but not terribly heavy.   100% 17-4 H900 like others, barely heavier than an AAC 7.62 SDN-6.  The  weight on the scale is with the direct thread mount installed.”

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That is beautiful. I should not look at this thread anymore. It makes me want mine back faster. I am really glad he has good business. Good for him, long wait for me haha.
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5/14/2020 6:43:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By USAFtacFANAC:


That is beautiful. I should not look at this thread anymore. It makes me want mine back faster. I am really glad he has good business. Good for him, long wait for me haha.
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My Griffin Trilug mount is finally arriving tomorrow, supposedly. Just to turn around and send it out to Nick for an MP5 coaxial build. It's been so long, I hope he even remembers me. This thing has taken almost as long to get as my F1 did to get approved. I swear they must hold shit at each depot for quarantine before sending off to next stop. Should have just had it sent to him direct.
5/14/2020 6:53:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chargerdude70:


My Griffin Trilug mount is finally arriving tomorrow, supposedly. Just to turn around and send it out to Nick for an MP5 coaxial build. It's been so long, I hope he even remembers me. This thing has taken almost as long to get as my F1 did to get approved. I swear they must hold shit at each depot for quarantine before sending off to next stop. Should have just had it sent to him direct. 
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I will not put words in his mouth, or speak on his behalf. I got a text from him the other night that he got my can and gave me a rough estimated time frame. All I will say is I am glad I start school again next week with emag physics for a pounding 7 week sprint course. It will keep me busy.
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5/14/2020 7:51:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MSUbulldog21:
From Nick’s Facebook:

“Another  tubeless recore, but the largest one I've done to date - 1.75" x 12".   Optimized for .458 SOCOM, it's quite large, but not terribly heavy.   100% 17-4 H900 like others, barely heavier than an AAC 7.62 SDN-6.  The  weight on the scale is with the direct thread mount installed.”

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I’d be interested in hearing the thought process behind the three stepped cones, and knowing where they are in the stack.
5/15/2020 8:58:52 AM EDT
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Damn, run out of ammo, you’ve got a club.
5/15/2020 9:14:53 AM EDT
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That's really brilliant. Shove some Chinese made, internet-connected mechanical device up your ass. No problem.
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5/15/2020 10:42:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By USAFtacFANAC:


I will not put words in his mouth, or speak on his behalf. I got a text from him the other night that he got my can and gave me a rough estimated time frame. All I will say is I am glad I start school again next week with emag physics for a pounding 7 week sprint course. It will keep me busy.
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I hope he'll start the tubeless conversion on mine, soon.
5/15/2020 10:57:03 AM EDT
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I hope he'll start the tubeless conversion on mine, soon.
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Just depends on where you are in the line. I am pumped that he has business. (I always root for small business). I imagine he is going to get to a point where he stops taking orders or will have to find help.

Either way, still good for him and I can not wait!
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5/15/2020 11:31:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigWaylon:

I’d be interested in hearing the thought process behind the three stepped cones, and knowing where they are in the stack.
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Originally Posted By BigWaylon:

I’d be interested in hearing the thought process behind the three stepped cones, and knowing where they are in the stack.


Metering and ears showed that high velocity rounds do better with a couple or three of them mixed in (depending on total number of baffles), but not the whole stack.

They are the second & third from the rear, and then usually second from the last if the total number of baffles is more than 7.

Using that mix in my 1.6" x 9" 9-baffle Accipiter model brought full power .300 Win mag from a 22" barrel down to 131 dBA.  A 1.5 x 10" I did this way with 11 total baffles metered 124.7 avg. on an 18" .308.  Yes, it was as quiet at the ear as suppressed subsonic 9mm when close enough to the backstop that the sonic crack didn't propagate.

I don't have a .458 SOCOM for testing the one we're discussing here, so can't provide dB figures, and will have to wait for the owner to report on efficacy.  .45 cal rifle rounds are not easy to knock down, but at this size, it should do a pretty decent job.  At 1.75" x 12", it is larger than the big bore Accipiter model I built for my .375 RUM (1.81" x 10")

Originally Posted By KalmanPhilter:

It’s hard to tell from a photo taken at an angle but it also looks like the bore and clip sizes vary a bit to.



They're uniform at .510" for the first 6, then .525" for the last 6 and cap.  Clips are all the same width.  

I do not typically vary aperture & end cap bores, but will sometimes increase them a bit at the distal end when the can is long enough that the slightest misalignment could cause baffle strikes.  It doesn't take much with 10"+ cans
5/15/2020 11:42:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By USAFtacFANAC:

 
Just depends on where you are in the line. I am pumped that he has business. (I always root for small business). I imagine he is going to get to a point where he stops taking orders or will have to find help. 

Either way, still good for him and I can not wait!
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I told him to take as long as he needs.  

I only bothered him to confirm the can was in his possession.

It's my piece of shit Huntertown Arms Kestrel, enough said.
5/15/2020 8:12:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By waywaup:


I told him to take as long as he needs.  

I only bothered him to confirm the can was in his possession.

It's my piece of shit Huntertown Arms Kestrel, enough said.
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HA good stuff man. I am all for making posts about pain and agony in the waiting period. But I wont.
We all have something that is a piece of shit that we love. For me, it is my first guitar from when I was 12. BC Rich worlock total POS beginner guitar. Still have it. Still love it.
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5/17/2020 10:40:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By waywaup:


I told him to take as long as he needs.  

I only bothered him to confirm the can was in his possession.

It's my piece of shit Huntertown Arms Kestrel, enough said.
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Interested to see how it turns out. I don't hate my Ketrel 5.56, but I wouldn't mind making it quieter for sure.
5/18/2020 11:12:35 AM EDT
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Trust me when I say, the wait is well worth it. Performance on my can is incredible. All FRP is now gone on my guns with direct thread on application. I have to use a Gemtech QDA setup on the AR22, so it's noticeably louder on every shot due to dead air space filled with oxygen that can be ignited before reaching the blast baffle. But it's still easily hearing safe for sure. Waiting on one more item to get here, and I'll get you guys some video of it in action. I could not be any happier.
5/27/2020 1:31:48 PM EDT
[#40]
Ok nick, I know I still probably have a while, but I just finished my build for the can on Monday.
She is lonely.
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5/27/2020 3:11:16 PM EDT
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I spoke with him over past week end and he said he wasn’t taking on anymore work until his new shop was all set. Stands to reason. He placed me in the “Get back with you when I’m ready” list.
5/27/2020 3:29:32 PM EDT
[#42]
Dang. I will not rub it in when I get mine back then....
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5/27/2020 4:46:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By USAFtacFANAC:
Dang. I will not rub it in when I get mine back then....
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No worries I’ll just shift the funds from that to remarking and SBR’ing my SP5. It’s my own fault for ordering the trilug mount from a company I’ve never dealt with. It took a month to get it.
5/27/2020 6:10:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chargerdude70:



No worries I’ll just shift the funds from that to remarking and SBR’ing my SP5. It’s my own fault for ordering the trilug mount from a company I’ve never dealt with. It took a month to get it.
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Nice! I would like an sp5, but I decided to spend it all on the pistol and can. I am debating if I want to SBR this thing or not. A lot of me wants to, but the other side of me wants to keep it a pistol so I can take it with me to kentucky to shoot.

Who am I kidding, I have many ARs to choose from, I need to put in the stamp haha.
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5/27/2020 6:31:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By USAFtacFANAC:

Nice! I would like an sp5, but I decided to spend it all on the pistol and can. I am debating if I want to SBR this thing or not. A lot of me wants to, but the other side of me wants to keep it a pistol so I can take it with me to kentucky to shoot.

Who am I kidding, I have many ARs to choose from, I need to put in the stamp haha.
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Since it began life as a pistol, you can stamp it as an SBR and just swap the stock for a brace to return it to pistol form.  Problem solved.  eForm1s are around a month or so too...
5/27/2020 6:52:00 PM EDT
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Since it began life as a pistol, you can stamp it as an SBR and just swap the stock for a brace to return it to pistol form.  Problem solved.  eForm1s are around a month or so too...
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That is awesome to know. I was looking for an answer before I submitted a stamp. If that is the case, I will certainly submit another form 1 ha.
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5/27/2020 8:50:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By USAFtacFANAC:


Nice! I would like an sp5, but I decided to spend it all on the pistol and can. I am debating if I want to SBR this thing or not. A lot of me wants to, but the other side of me wants to keep it a pistol so I can take it with me to kentucky to shoot.

Who am I kidding, I have many ARs to choose from, I need to put in the stamp haha.
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I did my share of AR builds the past 8 months, I don't own a factory built. I got bored and went on an HK kick. More money out of pocket but if need be, can get it back. Built AR's just end up being parted out if wanting to sell. I built the one I posted up a few post. Here is another I did, a little different.  




5/28/2020 9:40:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By chargerdude70:


I did my share of AR builds the past 8 months, I don't own a factory built. I got bored and went on an HK kick. More money out of pocket but if need be, can get it back. Built AR's just end up being parted out if wanting to sell. I built the one I posted up a few post. Here is another I did, a little different.  

https://i.imgur.com/l1HSEU5.jpg


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Ya know, I kind of dig that. I also go not own a factory rifle. I am not counting my BCM. That has been changed since 2010 about 20 times now since that was my first rifle. It is the one in my picture with my dog a page back or something.
I definitely spend too much on my rifles anymore. I may skimp on the lpk but that is about it. The big thing about this one is I wanted to make a pistol to take with me every where.
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6/3/2020 7:01:01 PM EDT
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6/3/2020 7:05:15 PM EDT
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Nice, Looking forward to when my number comes up on the wait list. My SP5 is at MM getting the remark right now and then to send in the F1 for SBR.

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