No.

They are not currently available for individual purchase, only organizational.

Cost is around $8,000.

~Augee

Confirmed at Shot show in January that they will not sell the E Coti to civilians by "The Captain."

Yes, there were some very happy folks once that happened.

The 30^o FOV (versus 20^o) and 25% weight reduction is not not nice, too.



~Augee

Yeppers

Toggling the archive so it will not get lost. :-)

New video on the E-COTI by Safran/Optics1:

https://vimeo.com/444670860

A good overview. While currently still restricted to military and law enforcement (organizational purchases only), fusion technology and augmented reality are definitely coming out of their shell and the next new direction in VAS technology, excited to see it continue to become more widely available (the USMC SBNVG program using the ESA-NV F5032 as the BNVD component for conventional military forces is huge) and progresses and develops.

~Augee

They're available now.



$8,399 for the full kit. It's a lot of money, but it's a lot of capability, and the latest generation of night vision/thermal technology in use and being fielded to some of the most elite SOF worldwide.

Optics 1 ECOTI Latest Fusion Available Commercially Exclusively Through TNVC

~Augee

We're checking. Thank you.

And Bingo was his Name- O.  And as confirmed by multiple parties in this very thread, the ecoti used to not be made available to civies.

Unless of course you need warranty or repair support.

It’s called the EE.



I’ll say this, we’ve been working this for a very long time—I spent about three hours in a scheduled meeting in the Optics 1 suite at SHOT this year talking to not just the ECOTI product manager, but various VPs, but we didn’t know when we would get the final approval until very recently. It could have been six months or six years.

The good thing is that just because the ECOTI’s available doesn’t mean your legacy COTI will stop working, this isn’t Apple here.

As I’ve said elsewhere multiple times since the legacy COTIs began going on sale with other vendors, the unique combination of circumstances of the legacy AN/PAS-29A being an end-of-lifecycle product that is being retired through other vendors, for the capability, the legacy COTI is still a great deal at current prices as long as you’re aware that it’s a discontinued item, which is why the current pricing is where it is—they *did not* cost that when they were a current production item that was being continuously supported.

Ultimately for us, the decision was made long ago that while the price was good, because our customer base includes a large number of people who use our products for duty use—whether that’s agency/unit purchases or individual purchases for work use, that we could not continue selling a product that was being retired and we could not guarantee continuous support. And again, since we didn’t know until fairly recently exactly when we would be allowed to sell the ECOTI commercially again, we were clear in letting people know both that it was a great deal for the capability and the circumstances under which the deal was being made available.

For a lot of people (it would seem), the Legacy COTI has become kind of a “gateway drug” to the world of Fusion Technology and the ECOTI—it’s much easier to image what the potential of the technology is and what top of the line systems are like once you’ve gotten a taste of an earlier iteration of the technology.

To that end, we are and will do anything we can to support customers that purchased legacy AN/PAS-29As from us if and when they want/need to upgrade or require support. And while we’ll always do anything we can to help all customers, especially given the market saturation after we chose to pass on buying out the COTI program, we are somewhat limited on what we can do for customers who purchased them from other vendors at a discount—but again, we’ll try our best.

~Augee

Great comments Augee. Bottom line, let's face it, the CONSTANT pitch of the ECOTI never being available with comments like this and many other comments from ONE source, "It's like that old saying make a wish or crap in your hand, see which one gets filled first.  LOL" , was used to "sell" and "goad" the surplus COTI's and nothing else.

As Augee said, great price for that piece when Euro Optics purchased the line and offered it to a few other dealers. It's great to see other users have the opportunity to get into the COTI no matter what version! Good stuff and that's the bottom line when people are happy with their own purchase.

We've been asked from our clients for YEARS to sell "restricted" manufacturers goods and we've accomplished that with the ECOTI and we're incredibly happy folks are now allowed to own such incredible tech and by looks of our BF sales this AM so far, many others wanted this latest iteration.

Appreciate the comments Brother, it's been a challenge but very worth it all U.S. citizens can now have the latests ECOTI tech.

Sincerely,  I'm glad you got into the COTI tech itself no matter what version you have, it's a game changer for what they do. Enjoy!

The COTI will do, in my unscientific estimation, about 80% of the detection work of the ECOTI, which, especially at current pricing makes it still a tremendous value--and remember, the ECOTI was available... mostly just to me at the time, and "flexing" I got something you can't have just aint my or our style. Do I occasionally post restricted items? For sure, but I try not to "flex" unnecessarily.

That being said, while the COTI will do 80% of the detection work of the ECOTI, the ECOTI is undoubtedly higher performing and much more refined--I do still wish they'd kept the paddle switch control on the ECOTI, but you win some you lose some--the housing and mechanism for that paddle also adds to size and weight, and the ECOTI is a much more compact system when you hold them both in your hand--but then as now, I continue to recommend if you want Fusion Tech, and at the time couldn't get, or now can't afford an ECOTI, I wouldn't hold out for something newer or cheaper--it's one thing if you need a little more time to save for the ECOTI, in which case I would say do it--but if, like you, you are among the folks that feel "I'll never pay that" for an ECOTI, then I wouldn't wait for the price to go down, the ECOTI keeps on winning contracts, and while we are now contracted with them as well, and they will remain commercially available, I wouldn't expect the price to go down any time soon, though I say that of course with the caveat that we will always be doing our best to secure the best possible deals for our customers, and if at some point we can drop the price and remain viable, we will--among other things, we do not take lightly having to offer products where we can't offer discounts, whether to military/le/first responders or ARFCOM members, but unfortunately the ECOTI is currently one of them.

One thing I will say is that a big part of the value in the ECOTI is the augmented reality capabilities which the legacy COTI lacks, however, at this point, they're still relatively limited for civilian users who don't have access to ATAK. That being said, the ECOTIs we are selling are all "full up" systems, they have not had their capabilities reduced in any way for commercial sales, and as time goes on and things like CivTAK continue to develop further and become more widely accessible, people will truly get to see and appreciate the benefits of Fusion Technologies and augmented reality capabilities, which are the real revolutionary increases in capability.

As I've said elsewhere recently, once you start being able to integrate with that stuff, you're approaching real-life Starship Troopers-level capabilities, especially when you consider technologies like the FWS-I, which again--is currently restricted, but as always, we will always be on the front lines trying to make as much of the highest quality and most advanced products and technologies available to all of our customers.

~Augee

Sheeee-it,



I would agree wholeheartedly--if you haven't already, you need to travel the world some before you buy an ECOTI or a COTI, then again, and maybe this is just me assuming incorrectly, but I'd kind of figured most people who're dropping night vision money have probably also seen at least some of the world, and as a matter of fact, I've often felt that for all the claims of the media to the contrary, the people who are most invested in defense, protection, and protecting what we have in America tend to be the more "worldly" and well traveled. Once you've seen both "the other side" and gained an appreciation for the gargantuan undertaking it has been to be where we are today, you become a little bit more personally invested in protecting it.

Western/Northern Europe is good, but where we really love is Greece, history, food, scenery, amazing all around.

That being said, I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't love it more if I could bring NVGs and an ECOTI with me next time I went*.





*Just to make it 100% clear if anyone cannot process that this is a joke, I would absolutely, positively, never ever even remotely consider any kind of unlicensed export, even temporarily, of ITAR controlled items.

~Augee

Solid reasoning.

I’m not going to discuss the details of what capabilities are or not in use and in what capacity.

But they are very much in use.



~Augee

Just a note, yes the ECOTI is still available and still not restricted with free overnight shipping still in play!