Originally Posted By JAG2955:
Cool. Where was that?

Originally Posted By Villafuego:
your Hand spring is completely missing

That's not a 1917 either ...... it's a New Army/ Navy depending on caliber

Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX:
It's chambered in .38

Originally Posted By captain127:
You might get lucky with just replacing springs, but if not bear in mind colts we’re hand fitted and are notoriously difficult to work on, and very few gunsmiths are left that have any skill in fixing them.

For 38 colt ammo there is data out there for reloading, and you just shorten special cases to fit. Another very safe alternative if it will chamber 38 special is to just load black powder.

Originally Posted By JAG2955:
Have you posted this to Gunboards yet? Those guys know the most, but that forum is dying down.

Originally Posted By dfariswheel:
Here's some basic information on the Colt New Army & Navy models......

https://coltfever.com/new-army-navy/

Due to the highly complex action, and a lack of usable parts, only a couple of high end custom Cowboy gunsmiths will work on one.
All original parts are used and previously altered to fit a frame at the factory.  They may be too undersized to be usable in a different frame.
Gun Parts Corp has a few parts, so does Jack First.......

https://jackfirstinc.com/product-category/colt/colt-revolvers/colt-new-army-and-new-navy-38-41-double-action-revolver/

Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX:
Jack first wants 12$ to ship a 12$ part.

Their faq mentions its only 4$ to ship and the rest is basically labor.

Originally Posted By mlg123:
Ok, what you have is a Colt "New Navy", it looks like a later model as that model went through several improvements throughout its service life.

Particulars of the 1889/1892/"New Navy/New Army":
- Very first handgun with a swing out cylinder. It was a world wide game changer.
- Only Colt revolver to rotate the wrong way.  It turns to the left - not "the RIGHT way".
- Yours is chambered for 38 Colt Long (not 38 Special).  If you look in the cylinder, you'll see that the chambers are bored straight through with no cartridge stop/step.
- - with the above said, some of the very last ones produced were chambered for 38 Special and have a stepped chamber.
- Proper 38 Colt Long ammo is of the heeled bullet type and 0.375" dia (like a 22 LR).  Thus the bored straight through chambers.
- "Modern" 38 Colt ammo uses an internally lubed 0.358" dia bullet that simply won't properly fit your bore and usually results in poor accuracy.
- 38 Colt is ... a bit anemic.  (That was putting it nice.)  The cartridge is very under powered.
- This is the Navy's and Army's first attempt at a sub 45 cal double action pistol.  It looked good on paper and was very easy to shoot.  It was also very easy to shoot accurately.
- This is THE gun/cartridge that made the US Military re-think the concept of a small bore combat pistol and the return to 45 cal pistols.
- Whereas the gun is a huge improvement of the model 1877 action, it is still a bit overly complicated and fragile.  Prone to timing issues.  Serious timing issues if abused.
- This is THE gun that inspired S&W's double action swing out cylinder revolvers.  To the point that S&W had to wait until Colt's patent on the swing out cylinder ran out. Put yours next to a modern S&W DA and you'll see the similarities.

MLG
- The internals were carefully hand fitted to function properly.  Any replacement parts need to be hand fitted for it to function properly.
- Going by your photos, yours has several parts that are not original AND were not properly fitted. Look for heavy drag marks to identify poor fits.  Multiple poor fits compound function issues.
- I think you're missing a spring.

Originally Posted By mlg123:
Ok, what you have is a Colt "New Navy", it looks like a later model as that model went through several improvements throughout its service life.

Particulars of the 1889/1892/"New Navy/New Army":
- Very first handgun with a swing out cylinder. It was a world wide game changer.
- Only Colt revolver to rotate the wrong way.  It turns to the left - not "the RIGHT way".
- Yours is chambered for 38 Colt Long (not 38 Special).  If you look in the cylinder, you'll see that the chambers are bored straight through with no cartridge stop/step.
- - with the above said, some of the very last ones produced were chambered for 38 Special and have a stepped chamber.
- Proper 38 Colt Long ammo is of the heeled bullet type and 0.375" dia (like a 22 LR).  Thus the bored straight through chambers.
- "Modern" 38 Colt ammo uses an internally lubed 0.358" dia bullet that simply won't properly fit your bore and usually results in poor accuracy.
- 38 Colt is ... a bit anemic.  (That was putting it nice.)  The cartridge is very under powered.
- This is the Navy's and Army's first attempt at a sub 45 cal double action pistol.  It looked good on paper and was very easy to shoot.  It was also very easy to shoot accurately.
- This is THE gun/cartridge that made the US Military re-think the concept of a small bore combat pistol and the return to 45 cal pistols.
- Whereas the gun is a huge improvement of the model 1877 action, it is still a bit overly complicated and fragile.  Prone to timing issues.  Serious timing issues if abused.
- This is THE gun that inspired S&W's double action swing out cylinder revolvers.  To the point that S&W had to wait until Colt's patent on the swing out cylinder ran out. Put yours next to a modern S&W DA and you'll see the similarities.

MLG
- The internals were carefully hand fitted to function properly.  Any replacement parts need to be hand fitted for it to function properly.
- Going by your photos, yours has several parts that are not original AND were not properly fitted. Look for heavy drag marks to identify poor fits.  Multiple poor fits compound function issues.
- I think you're missing a spring.

Originally Posted By mlg123:
Ok, what you have is a Colt "New Navy", it looks like a later model as that model went through several improvements throughout its service life.

Particulars of the 1889/1892/"New Navy/New Army":
- Very first handgun with a swing out cylinder. It was a world wide game changer.
- Only Colt revolver to rotate the wrong way.  It turns to the left - not "the RIGHT way".
- Yours is chambered for 38 Colt Long (not 38 Special).  If you look in the cylinder, you'll see that the chambers are bored straight through with no cartridge stop/step.
- - with the above said, some of the very last ones produced were chambered for 38 Special and have a stepped chamber.
- Proper 38 Colt Long ammo is of the heeled bullet type and 0.375" dia (like a 22 LR).  Thus the bored straight through chambers.
- "Modern" 38 Colt ammo uses an internally lubed 0.358" dia bullet that simply won't properly fit your bore and usually results in poor accuracy.
- 38 Colt is ... a bit anemic.  (That was putting it nice.)  The cartridge is very under powered.
- This is the Navy's and Army's first attempt at a sub 45 cal double action pistol.  It looked good on paper and was very easy to shoot.  It was also very easy to shoot accurately.
- This is THE gun/cartridge that made the US Military re-think the concept of a small bore combat pistol and the return to 45 cal pistols.
- Whereas the gun is a huge improvement of the model 1877 action, it is still a bit overly complicated and fragile.  Prone to timing issues.  Serious timing issues if abused.
- This is THE gun that inspired S&W's double action swing out cylinder revolvers.  To the point that S&W had to wait until Colt's patent on the swing out cylinder ran out. Put yours next to a modern S&W DA and you'll see the similarities.

MLG
- The internals were carefully hand fitted to function properly.  Any replacement parts need to be hand fitted for it to function properly.
- Going by your photos, yours has several parts that are not original AND were not properly fitted. Look for heavy drag marks to identify poor fits.  Multiple poor fits compound function issues.
- I think you're missing a spring.