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10/6/2024 10:04:07 AM EDT
to an M2?  By the book, abiding by all federal regs.  If so, how?
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10/6/2024 10:14:56 AM EDT
[#1]
Simple answer…NO

SOT/FFL…Yes
10/6/2024 10:27:18 AM EDT
[#2]
There are some conversion parts on the registry. So yes you can find a transferable kit but I’d expect prices to be as high these days as a registered receiver M2
10/6/2024 10:29:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By dusty3030:
There are some conversion parts on the registry. So yes you can find a transferable kit but I’d expect prices to be as high these days as a registered receiver M2
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Thanks.  That helps clarity the landscape.
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10/6/2024 1:46:16 PM EDT
[#4]
You can't just convert unless you have registered part registered as a machine gun.

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Originally Posted By 18B30:
Simple answer…NO

SOT/FFL…Yes
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You forgot to mention FFL07/02 SOT. A FFL01 can't do it.
10/16/2024 7:05:18 PM EDT
[#5]
I met a guy who amnesty registered the conversion parts in 1968. They are out there.
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10/17/2024 7:52:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By doc540:
to an M2?  By the book, abiding by all federal regs.  If so, how?
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Yes.  You must use a registered conversion parts kit, but it’s probably the easiest conversion out there.
10/23/2024 10:02:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RenegadeX][Edited] [#7]
Unlike AR-15, when the M2 was made, a factory conversion kit for M1 that met spec was also made. Even if you find a non-OEM kit, it should be made to factory spec.
10/26/2024 3:59:04 PM EDT
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There are guns marked M2 but converted by military before sell off to M1 semi auto out there, that were sold off by CMP back in the 60s, and its been a bit of a weird situation as there has not been much pressure to call them MGs as such.

I'd be curious if owners of such could offer a strange explanation similar to these recent post 68 Dealeer samples were registered MGs made before 68 and lawfully acquired could their be an argument these are pre 86 transferable if applied for.
1/4/2025 10:50:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: whiskerz][Edited] [#9]
dupe
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1/4/2025 1:10:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cherenkov:
There are guns marked M2 but converted by military before sell off to M1 semi auto out there, that were sold off by CMP back in the 60s, and its been a bit of a weird situation as there has not been much pressure to call them MGs as such.

I'd be curious if owners of such could offer a strange explanation similar to these recent post 68 Dealeer samples were registered MGs made before 68 and lawfully acquired could their be an argument these are pre 86 transferable if applied for.
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@cherenkov

Err, what..?  I apologize, but I’ve read and re-read that and I can’t figure out what you’re trying to say.
1/4/2025 1:57:18 PM EDT
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@cherenkov

Err, what..?  I apologize, but I’ve read and re-read that and I can’t figure out what you’re trying to say.
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Originally Posted By prebans:
Originally Posted By cherenkov:
There are guns marked M2 but converted by military before sell off to M1 semi auto out there, that were sold off by CMP back in the 60s, and its been a bit of a weird situation as there has not been much pressure to call them MGs as such.

I'd be curious if owners of such could offer a strange explanation similar to these recent post 68 Dealeer samples were registered MGs made before 68 and lawfully acquired could their be an argument these are pre 86 transferable if applied for.


@cherenkov

Err, what..?  I apologize, but I’ve read and re-read that and I can’t figure out what you’re trying to say.


Same…no speaky the rooski, comrade.
1/4/2025 2:00:51 PM EDT
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There was a gunshop in Portland, OR many years ago that had what they listed as a M1 carbine that was actually an M2 that someone traded in.  The shop just didn't know the difference between the two and sold it.
1/4/2025 5:32:42 PM EDT
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Recently the BATF ruled that certain machineguns imported post-68 as "dealers samples" say for example sold directly to police could be considered "transferable"

My point was that if the BATF is allowing fixing errors of the past and permitting re-registrations or retroactive corrections - Hypothetically speaking what about others had acquired M2s (particularly the M2s sold off by CMP as semi-autos ro civilians) - but not registered them as an MG even though they may indeed by an MG. You know once a machine-gun always a machine-gun??

Let's say a M2 "marked" and manufactured as an "M2 carbine" was sold off as semi-auto M1 carbines from CMP to individual or to police (this evidently has happened)  but living by the once a machine-gun always a machine-gun mantra would the BATF permit someone who lawfully bought an M2 marked carbine from CMP and wanted to register it now (it was once a machine-gun) could someone essentially say I bought this and as it was technically it was a(and always is) a machine-gun - can I register it as a machine-gun?

Could a group of carbine owners that have these marked M2 carbines petition the BATF (similarly to how a group did for the Post 86 imports) to retroactively register tham as M2s?
1/4/2025 5:50:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cherenkov:
Recently the BATF ruled that certain machineguns imported post-68 as "dealers samples" say for example sold directly to police could be considered "transferable"

My point was that if the BATF is allowing fixing errors of the past and permitting re-registrations or retroactive corrections - Hypothetically speaking what about others had acquired M2s (particularly the M2s sold off by CMP as semi-autos ro civilians) - but not registered them as an MG even though they may indeed by an MG. You know once a machine-gun always a machine-gun??

Let's say a M2 "marked" and manufactured as an "M2 carbine" was sold off as semi-auto M1 carbines from CMP to individual or to police (this evidently has happened)  but living by the once a machine-gun always a machine-gun mantra would the BATF permit someone who lawfully bought an M2 marked carbine from CMP and wanted to register it now (it was once a machine-gun) could someone essentially say I bought this and as it was technically it was a(and always is) a machine-gun - can I register it as a machine-gun?

Could a group of carbine owners that have these marked M2 carbines petition the BATF (similarly to how a group did for the Post 86 imports) to retroactively register tham as M2s?
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Good luck with that.
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1/4/2025 6:43:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By doc540:
to an M2?  By the book, abiding by all federal regs.  If so, how?
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Sure:
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/1043/2869/inland-m2-automatic-carbine-conversion-kit-class-iiinfa-cr

according to a post on machinegunboards, it sold for $11K.

https://www.machinegunboards.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27762-m2-conversion-kit-in-this-weeks-rock-island-auction/
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