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Posted: 11/27/2019 6:05:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Melvin_Johnson]
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Posted: 11/27/2019 6:40:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: thediesel]
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WHOLLY SHIT, best deal they've ever had hands down! Wowsers!
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Posted: 11/27/2019 6:57:54 PM EDT
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Nice!
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Posted: 11/27/2019 7:51:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/27/2019 9:35:26 PM EDT
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Do I really want a 6.8 conversion?
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Posted: 11/27/2019 9:47:27 PM EDT
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I don't even own an ACR (bucket list) but might buy the 10.5 barrel
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AL, USA
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Posted: 11/27/2019 9:48:49 PM EDT
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Think they are killing it off?
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USA
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Posted: 11/27/2019 10:58:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcb:
Think they are killing it off? |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 11/27/2019 11:09:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CJofFL:
You're kidding, right? They're finally hitting their stride with the ACR. It's just a Black Friday sale like everyone else, just happens to be a good one. Get it while the gettin is good! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CJofFL:
Originally Posted By mcb:
Think they are killing it off? |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/27/2019 11:50:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CJofFL: You’re kidding, right? They’re finally hitting their stride with the ACR. It’s just a Black Friday sale like everyone else, just happens to be a good one. Get it while the gettin is good! That is, Unless you’re from Huntsville and work for them with info I don’t have. Bushmaster always has really good Black Friday sales. This is the best one they have ever done though. The prices are so low that you save money even as a dealer. |
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Posted: 11/28/2019 12:08:03 AM EDT
[#10]
man i wanted a 10.5 barrel, OS now
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AL, USA
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Posted: 11/28/2019 8:56:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigdog200399:
I agree with CJ, plus I have inside info which says it's not going anywhere. That is, Unless you're from Huntsville and work for them with info I don't have. Bushmaster always has really good Black Friday sales. This is the best one they have ever done though. The prices are so low that you save money even as a dealer. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigdog200399:
Originally Posted By CJofFL: You're kidding, right? They're finally hitting their stride with the ACR. It's just a Black Friday sale like everyone else, just happens to be a good one. Get it while the gettin is good! That is, Unless you're from Huntsville and work for them with info I don't have. Bushmaster always has really good Black Friday sales. This is the best one they have ever done though. The prices are so low that you save money even as a dealer. |
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Posted: 11/28/2019 9:38:58 AM EDT
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Looks like you can buy the lower without FFL? Is that not what is serilaized?
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FL, USA
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Posted: 11/28/2019 10:29:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jd2395:
Looks like you can buy the lower without FFL? Is that not what is serilaized? |
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Posted: 11/28/2019 10:43:57 AM EDT
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I don’t know much about them
Is that sale comprehensive enough to assemble a full working rifle? |
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USA
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Posted: 11/28/2019 10:51:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Steamedliver:Is that sale comprehensive enough to assemble a full working rifle? |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/28/2019 4:51:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcb:
When it is to good to be true look for the reasons it is what it is. I don't think it's Christmas spirit... Bushmaster always tries to wheel and deal during the holidays. It’s just how it is. If they were going to kill it off they wouldn’t have released anything this year at all |
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Posted: 11/28/2019 5:01:33 PM EDT
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DPMS is running 50% off in some stuff too.
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AL, USA
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Posted: 11/28/2019 5:15:50 PM EDT
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Both Bushmaster and DPMS doing 50% off. Wonder what Remington Outdoor Company is up too?
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USA
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Posted: 11/28/2019 7:45:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcb:Nope, I think they are killing it off, hope I am wrong but that is what I think... It takes all kinds I guess. I mean, if some of us aren’t willing to wear tin foil hats, who are the rest of us going to make fun of? 
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AL, USA
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Posted: 11/28/2019 10:00:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CJofFL:
Considering everything in the Bushmaster webstore is 50% off, not just the ACR stuff, by your logic the entire company is going under. It takes all kinds I guess. I mean, if some of us aren't willing to wear tin foil hats, who are the rest of us going to make fun of? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CJofFL:
Originally Posted By mcb:Nope, I think they are killing it off, hope I am wrong but that is what I think... It takes all kinds I guess. I mean, if some of us aren't willing to wear tin foil hats, who are the rest of us going to make fun of? 
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/29/2019 12:59:38 PM EDT
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I wish they had rifles half off!
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Posted: 11/29/2019 2:16:51 PM EDT
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I have some items in my cart but just can't bring myself to actually complete the purchase. I just simply don't like the ACR enough to spend additional money on it. Even at 50% off.
With that said, maybe I'll pick up a new lower and see if mags fit better in a current production piece. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/29/2019 10:07:03 PM EDT
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They probably won’t. They haven’t changed the molds much since the Masada. The magwells are oversized on the Acr. That was one of the big things I changed on my lowers.
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Posted: 11/29/2019 10:42:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigdog200399:
That was one of the big things I changed on my lowers. |
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Posted: 11/29/2019 11:34:49 PM EDT
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Of course I find out when the 10.5" barrels are already out of stock. My Form 1 should be back any time
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Posted: 11/29/2019 11:43:51 PM EDT
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Hell of a deal. I was hoping for a 25% deal!
I almost got a 6.8 conversion but I didn’t want to invest in a whole new caliber and magazine. Be cheaper to buy a mess of heavy 77gr 5.56 and call it good.
I did get the new ambi carrier though, since that seems to be required for the other calibers and reduces the peening on the receiver. And one of those complete cleaning kits because my stuff is getting old. |
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ME, USA
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Posted: 11/30/2019 11:24:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bryan_Aim:
man i wanted a 10.5 barrel, OS now |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/30/2019 11:47:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Melvin_Johnson: Not wanting to drift the sale thread too much but how's the AK lower coming? Also this bm sale is the best I’ve ever seen. I’d highly recommend getting a 6.8 barrel since it’s 300 under dealer costs. |
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Posted: 12/3/2019 7:35:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcb:
Think they are killing it off? |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 3:50:24 PM EDT
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This thread did not age well.
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KS, USA
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Posted: 2/1/2020 4:36:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Melvin_Johnson]
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Oops! Sorry, ARJunkie4. I hit "edit" when I meant to hit "quote." They are right next to each other. That's what I get for trying to use my tiny phone for this stuff...
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Posted: 2/2/2020 10:44:46 AM EDT
[#32]
@bigdog200399
Do you have any contacts at BM or Rem who can confirm or deny the rumors? I note the only brands listed at the bottom of the Remington page are Remington, Marlin, AAC, Dakota Arms and Barnes. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 2/2/2020 3:46:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mcb]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcb:
You said it not me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcb:
Originally Posted By CJofFL:
Originally Posted By mcb:Nope, I think they are killing it off, hope I am wrong but that is what I think... It takes all kinds I guess. I mean, if some of us aren't willing to wear tin foil hats, who are the rest of us going to make fun of? I mean we called it pretty accurately a good two month before it happened.
The tinfoil hats are coming into fashion... |
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USA
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Posted: 2/2/2020 4:08:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcb:
You or I or maybe we... deserve some credit. I mean we called it pretty accurately a good two month before it happened.
The tinfoil hats are coming into fashion... |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/2/2020 5:27:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CJofFL:
I thought you were pessimistic and prefer not to give pessimists credit because it’s the easy approach... I don't think what's happened was obvious considering there really isn't anything new here. If anything, 2019/2020 looked to be the year of the ACR actually hitting its stride with new SKUs (450BM, ACR pistols) and things like the SquareDrop handguards finally becoming available. In hindsight, it's easy to see the 50% off sale as liquidation but I'm curious if the ACR is even going the way of Bushmaster. Could just be the Remington ACR since the only branding on the ACR is Magpul anways. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 2/2/2020 9:26:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigdog200399]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Melvin_Johnson:
@bigdog200399 Do you have any contacts at BM or Rem who can confirm or deny the rumors? I note the only brands listed at the bottom of the Remington page are Remington, Marlin, AAC, Dakota Arms and Barnes. The main thing is Remington is focusing only on core brands. The brands mentioned are their heart of the company (Remington outdoors) Their official explanation to me was that it’s hard to sell an ar15 on the open market when you are competing with certain companies that undercut everyone for literally half price of what they were selling for. The issue is that they are tooling to fulfill orders that are backordered in the core brands like say the Marlin lever actions. With all of that being said they are possibly still getting sued for Sandy Hook. They further said that the Acr is not dead. If someone were to want 500 of them they probably would take the order. They will still support warranty on the Acr. I am working with them about replacement parts too. The Remdef Acr is probably not hitting the civilian market unfortunately. To be 100% serious there isn’t even a real remdef spec that they stuck with outside of the 12-15 civilian employee rifles they were released. The other thing to take into consideration is the remdef Acr was developed in 2011-2012 before mlok. There are more up to date options coming out. (Rpm rails and such) The rifles were always configured as requested. Pdw, cqb-r, carbine or whatever was developed for what contract they were submitting for. |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 11:24:12 PM EDT
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I don't understand why they don't spec out a civilian version of the RemDef ACR. It's what the market wants, and has been since it was shown at SHOT many years ago.
If they're worried that civilian sales might open Remington Defense up for litigation, ala Sandy Hook, if one of these rifles are ever used in a crime, then "sell" or license the design to Bushmaster with slight changes. It just seems they don't have a pulse on the market, and I've never heard a good reason why they are not commercially available. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 2/2/2020 11:40:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sdrake100:
I don't understand why they don't spec out a civilian version of the RemDef ACR. It's what the market wants, and has been since it was shown at SHOT many years ago. If they're worried that civilian sales might open Remington Defense up for litigation, ala Sandy Hook, if one of these rifles are ever used in a crime, then "sell" or license the design to Bushmaster with slight changes. It just seems they don't have a pulse on the market, and I've never heard a good reason why they are not commercially available. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 1:11:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcb:
The above bold in spades. The leadership is going to try to save Remington buy going FUDD. The death of Bushmaster and DPMS are collateral damage due to that decision. What does Remington Perceive as their Brand/Market? Their pistols are junk Their bolt action Rifles are some variation of a sloppy action, with cheap stock Their 308 AR's are marginal at best. Shotguns, have no clue other than the constant threads about them rusting. It just seems that Remington is going after the low information, shoot less than one box of ammo a year, shoot less than 100 yards crowd. Almost like there are selling hunting accessories, not guns The only Remington product that i am kind of mildly interest in is there dumpster defender as a absurd novelty. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 2/3/2020 1:33:24 AM EDT
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At this point their targeted market is the lever action, shotgun, bolt gun market. I’m not sure why they went that route but that’s what they are targeting.
It just sucks because the Acr was finally getting factory love and then this happened. As a dealer it was amazing to be able to order any part I wanted and know it was going to be in the shop within a week or two. They cleaned house pretty well. Lots of my hidden part numbers were sold off so what’s available is more limited. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 5:00:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigdog200399:
At this point their targeted market is the lever action, shotgun, bolt gun market. I’m not sure why they went that route but that’s what they are targeting. It just sucks because the Acr was finally getting factory love and then this happened. As a dealer it was amazing to be able to order any part I wanted and know it was going to be in the shop within a week or two. They cleaned house pretty well. Lots of my hidden part numbers were sold off so what’s available is more limited. I just find it odd that they are basing their future off of relic activity of the 19th and 20th century. People are not hunting anymore, deer meat taste like shit, and the primary reason most people hunt these days are to make deer jerky and hand it out a work. They are targeting a dwindling population. I would just like to tell them, guys, you have around 10 to 20 million kids playing call of duty right now, you need to think about when they become adults. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 2/3/2020 10:27:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mcb]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigdog200399:
At this point their targeted market is the lever action, shotgun, bolt gun market. I'm not sure why they went that route but that's what they are targeting. It just sucks because the Acr was finally getting factory love and then this happened. As a dealer it was amazing to be able to order any part I wanted and know it was going to be in the shop within a week or two. They cleaned house pretty well. Lots of my hidden part numbers were sold off so what's available is more limited. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 2/3/2020 10:53:14 AM EDT
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I don’t see why they are going this way either but I hope the best for them. I’ve had a lot of fiends up there over the years and a lot of them moved on from time to time.
At this point I’m only concerned with keeping the Acr alive. Whether it be from Bm, Rem or even just me. Fortunately I have a lot of the parts reverse engineered at this point so spare parts aren’t going to stop if I can help it. |
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NE, USA
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:54:44 AM EDT
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My planned ACR projects are on hold until this sorts itself out.
It doesn't sound like the ACR is going to get sold or get produced [in any large numbers]. So what about continuing the conversions and caliber changes? |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:57:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigdog200399:
I don’t see why they are going this way either but I hope the best for them. I’ve had a lot of fiends up there over the years and a lot of them moved on from time to time. At this point I’m only concerned with keeping the Acr alive. Whether it be from Bm, Rem or even just me. Fortunately I have a lot of the parts reverse engineered at this point so spare parts aren’t going to stop if I can help it. |
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Posted: 2/5/2020 4:22:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tranzformer]
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Originally Posted By mcb:
Nope, I think they are killing it off, hope I am wrong but that is what I think... Originally Posted By CJofFL: Considering everything in the Bushmaster webstore is 50% off, not just the ACR stuff, by your logic the entire company is going under. It takes all kinds I guess. I mean, if some of us aren’t willing to wear tin foil hats, who are the rest of us going to make fun of? Originally Posted By bigdog200399:
I agree with CJ, plus I have inside info which says it’s not going anywhere. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 2/5/2020 11:28:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tranzformer: Good call @mcb. Bad call. Looks like his logic was sound, eh? Bad call/bad inside info. They lied to you. |
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