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Posted: 7/20/2026 10:49:43 PM EDT
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Looking for a candidate to chop for a cowboy SxS - wall hanger not a shooter 12ga or 20ga Whatcha got? |
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For a wall hanger, ONLY? Cruise gun shows and fins an old Belgian made no name SxS. They can usually be had for less than $200, more often around $100. For a shooter, the Stoeger is a good candidate but find an older Savage box lock for more style. This hammer gun I fashioned from a Cimarron Chinese Colt clone. For reasons, I would not recommend buying a Cimarron again. Attached File |
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Years ago (like 45+) I bought a lightly used Savage 20gs on the cheap. As I remember it was under $200 out the door but at that time I didn't have a huge firearms fund so it was still a chunk of change to me. Several times over the years I did some thinking about a SBS and what shape I could chop the stock into a handgrip . Never filed the paperwork and did no changes to the gun. Now the fit and finish on a factory savage of that time period is not horrible but it was not high end by any means, Wood is sort of ok but still is sort of plain . There was a time period six or seven years after I bought it when it seemed like I didn't have much money in the gun and I got pretty serious thinking about the SBS idea. Then the Used Savages started going for way more money than I had in it and that kind of changed my thinking . I only shoot the Savage every now and then , mostly when I want to expose some new shooter to something different , but it is a fun thing to have around. Kind of glad I never went crazy with the sawzall after all. Every now and then one of the guys at my club will bust out a SBS and we will tear up some tin cans or whatever but while fun I usually end up asking myself what the point of the whole "thing" is . To each his own . |
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Originally Posted By VaFish: If you want a shooter get a Stoeger Coach Gun. Easy time finding extra stock for so you can cut one to a pistol grip and the other leave as is. You will need a shorter bolt on the pistol grip. Is that unique to the Stoeger because it's a more modern gun/design/manufacture? Because the bolt, pistol grip cutting or replacement, etc. was the good chase I just referenced with more antiquated guns (that was my experience). |
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Originally Posted By Emt1581: Is that unique to the Stoeger because it's a more modern gun/design/manufacture? Because the bolt, pistol grip cutting or replacement, etc. was the good chase I just referenced with more antiquated guns (that was my experience). I had no problem finding an extra stock for mine. Cut the original pistol grip  And found a straight English stock.  |
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Originally Posted By BeaterHonda: Looking for a candidate to chop for a cowboy SxS - wall hanger not a shooter 12ga or 20ga Whatcha got? I've been thinking about that myself.... and meaning to just talk to some pawn shops and see if they get any non-functional shotguns in that would go for cheap. |
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Originally Posted By VaFish: I had no problem finding an extra stock for mine. Cut the original pistol grip https://i.postimg.cc/vByzpXvJ/20250215-184711.jpg And found a straight English stock. https://i.postimg.cc/B6tdTCtm/20250107-202345.jpg That's a Stoeger Coach? If not what make/model? The vast majority don't allow for a simple saw and sand. |
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Originally Posted By VaFish: I had no problem finding an extra stock for mine. Cut the original pistol grip https://i.postimg.cc/vByzpXvJ/20250215-184711.jpg And found a straight English stock. https://i.postimg.cc/B6tdTCtm/20250107-202345.jpg Originally Posted By VaFish: Originally Posted By Emt1581: Is that unique to the Stoeger because it's a more modern gun/design/manufacture? Because the bolt, pistol grip cutting or replacement, etc. was the good chase I just referenced with more antiquated guns (that was my experience). I had no problem finding an extra stock for mine. Cut the original pistol grip https://i.postimg.cc/vByzpXvJ/20250215-184711.jpg And found a straight English stock. https://i.postimg.cc/B6tdTCtm/20250107-202345.jpg Nice, I'm looking for something similar. I swapped a Vortex scope for a Russian over under thinking I'd chop it, but after handling it  I was quickly back to my original desire for a side by side. Now I need to sell this thing or swap it for a a SxS, preferably a Stevens 311 20ga. 
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Originally Posted By Makarov: This hammer gun I fashioned from a Cimarron Chinese Colt clone. For reasons, I would not recommend buying a Cimarron again. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/8568/IMG_3413_jpeg-3798758.JPG @Makarov, care to share those reasons? Unfortunately, I've been thinking about doing a SXS SBS with external hammers and Cimarron is about the only option at a reasonable price off the shelf. Another option I just saw (not sure if they're being imported yet) is this O/U SBS, the E40S, by Ege Arms (Turkey at least has a better reputation than China ) ROCK6 |
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Originally Posted By ROCK6: @Makarov, care to share those reasons? Unfortunately, I've been thinking about doing a SXS SBS with external hammers and Cimarron is about the only option at a reasonable price off the shelf. Another option I just saw (not sure if they're being imported yet) is this O/U SBS, the E40S, by Ege Arms (Turkey at least has a better reputation than China )https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2353/O_U_Shorty-3801863.jpg ROCK6 I’m not really here to bad mouth Cimarron but since you asked… I wanted an exposed hammer gun as a shooter. Cimarron had a pretty solid reputation among the SASS crowd, so I ordered the Colt 1878 clone through my local Dealer. I knew it was made in China BUT it got good reviews. What I didn’t know was that Cimarron had changed Chinese manufactures and that the generally “good” reviews were for the same model but a different manufacturer. That information came from an SASS gunsmith who later looked at my gun. When I got the gun, it looked like shit! The wood had a sloppy, gunky finish (like those 90s SKSs) and the “bluing” was literally rubbing off the steel, and it came with several buggered screw heads. The first time I shot it, the action could not be opened. I had to send it back to Cimarron for warranty service. They sent it back and the gun worked but was still hard to open. After a few hundred more shells, it loosened up but was also “off face”. Also, the barrels were not regulated to POA in any way. I expected that but it just made the gun that more disappointing. The gun sat in my pile of “projects” for a couple years until an ARFCOM thread motivated me to make lemonade from my lemon. So, I paid the $200 tax, engraved the receiver, cut the barrels to ~12” and squared the muzzle, refinished the wood, buffed and cold blued the barrels, and addressed the buggered screw heads. After much consideration, I cut the buttstock to an 11” LOP so I could wield it Mad Max style but still have just enough butt to shoulder the thing for more aimed shots. I lucked-out in that where I cut the barrels brought them both to a predictable POI at sawed-off shotgun shooting distances. The barrels are still off-face from the receiver, a condition that can only worsen, but so far it is holding together pretty well. This is a gun that shoots maybe 50 shells a year, as a novelty, not a competition Skeet gun running thousands of shells a year. Cimarron only warrants this gun for 5 years, so if the gun shoots too loose, it will just become a wall hanger. Again, I made the best lemonade I could from my lemon but I would never recommend a Cimarron product again. That’s just my one experience, YMMV. |
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Originally Posted By Makarov: I’m not really here to bad mouth Cimarron but since you asked… Cimarron only warrants this gun for 5 years, so if the gun shoots too loose, it will just become a wall hanger. Again, I made the best lemonade I could from my lemon but I would never recommend a Cimarron product again. That’s just my one experience, YMMV. I appreciate your experineces and explainantion. That sucks as I really don't won't a nightmare project. No, I dont' expect a turnkey SBS, but I may just contnue scrounging around for some older, used coach guns to register and butcher External hammers is my wish, but I may have to go with internal firing pins to get anything modern/decent. ROCK6 |
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Hey Rock, did you see the CG12 SBS SxS guns on their website? No idea if they're imported here but I noticed it when I did a search to find more info on the gun you posted. They've got a couple variations on their site. https://www.egearms.com/s-s-models That same Turkish(?) guy with the stubby fingers seems to be in lots of different Turkish manufacturer's shotgun videos; I haven't really looked into it but I'm guessing there are a lot of them under the same distributors network. LOL  Ege Arms RVTAC .410ga Revolver Shotgun |
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Originally Posted By Emt1581: That's a Stoeger Coach? If not what make/model? The vast majority don't allow for a simple saw and sand. Originally Posted By Emt1581: Originally Posted By VaFish: I had no problem finding an extra stock for mine. Cut the original pistol grip https://i.postimg.cc/vByzpXvJ/20250215-184711.jpg And found a straight English stock. https://i.postimg.cc/B6tdTCtm/20250107-202345.jpg That's a Stoeger Coach? If not what make/model? The vast majority don't allow for a simple saw and sand. Yes Stoeger Coach Gun. The old Savage 311 cut down easy too. |
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This is a crappy old photo, but I bought a Belgian SxS from Simpson LTD and cut it down. The finish is very worn, which gives it a good look. The lockup is tight and everything works. I don't remember exactly what I paid, but it was under $200. Attached File |
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