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Posted: 7/9/2026 6:55:27 PM EDT
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I'm looking for a suppressor to share between two .223 bolt action rifles and am looking for recommendations. I'd prefer something in steel, Incoloy, etc., not titanium, mainly due to mirage. I've found with my .30 caliber cans that, while steel takes longer to cool, it also heats up slower, so mirage doesn't occur as quickly. My main goal is maximum suppression with minimum mirage. I'll add a cover if it becomes necessary, though I'd prefer not to. The primary rifle it will be used on will be a rather heavy gun, so a little extra weight doesn't matter. I currently own a variety of .30 caliber cans, but no .223/5.56 options. The collection includes a TBAC Ultra 5, Dead Air Nomad LT and Sandman S, and Silencerco Scythe Ti and STM. I also have more rifles than cans, hence the idea of looking for a dedicated .223 option. The Griffin PRC-22 looks interesting, but there's not much feedback on it yet. Many of the other newer options seem optimized for gas guns and I'm not sure how much suppression they give up on a bolt gun. All recommendations are welcome. |
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If you have the ability to get a PRC 22, the can sounds phenomenal. I would say cans on bolt guns ideally would get covers though for mirage mitigation. 128DB for .223 muzzle sound is really tough to beat. It's kind of past a point of satisfaction and more at a point where it kind of sounds more like magic. I was able to see multiple people react to it and every reaction was in the same zone. The can in the video was run on short plan A and a taper mount Ez brake. I remember the first time I experienced a Ops 12th model, and I thought the same of it, but it was a 132.5 DB A muzzle metering can for perspective. I recall holding 18X Canon IS binoculars sitting 1m left of the shooter with an 18" SPR and spotting his rounds with no ear pro on, and it sounded pretty much conversational outside- like this can sounded inside a 16 foot wide concrete range.  PRC-22 AM Suppressor | Sound Test Overview |
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| Thanks @Green0 Do you have any data on how the can sounds with a flash hider end cap compared to the brake? Since I've been using my various .30 cal Ti cans on my 20" .223 bolt gun and have some experience there, how would you expect suppression to compare with those vs. the PRC-22? |
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Originally Posted By spot-remover: This is the first printed can that has ever interested me. I already have one really nice, bolt action .223 can but it's titanium and like the OP said, mirage is a problem. If mirage is your only issue, I would recommend a cover. Elite Iron has covers that are quite light and that work good for mitigating mirage, and Silencer Co has covers. Mechanics I believe even has a very affordable suppressor cover. Nothing will compete with a good cover for mirage mitigation. It will absolutely stomp out your mirage. Originally Posted By Gtscotty: Is there going to be a PRC-6 or can the PRC-22 handle 6mm bullets? Not relevant to the OP, but I think there's a lot more folks shooting PRS type rifles that this seems to be for, chambered in the various 6mms than .22 CFs. I have been asked that question at least once before. I couldn't tell you who asked, so it could be you. The really scary part of making a product that niche- is that maybe there is almost no demand for it. 6.5's sound great with 30 cal bore cans. Maybe 6mm makes some sense to have. It's not super attractive to re-visit the production of the brakes we already ran. However for .338" we were probably going to be increasing the bore size of 30cal brakes after anodize, because that's another relatively niche application. I can't say we can't, and I'm not 100% we will, but I guess we could make a 6mm can. This is one of those confusing things, making a new pistol can currently and sales guys are telling me make it short, and I kind of wanted it to be more quiet than normal, not shorter than normal with normal performance, and it seems there are 3 schools of thought- A make it more quiet. B make it shorter while sounding typical of current market options, C Make it very short and louder than normal options. With printing the reality is we could do all 3, allowing everyone to buy their can of choice despite 3 categories of desires. The only thing this challenges is every reseller's desire to have less options. Originally Posted By WI-2021: Thanks @Green0 Do you have any data on how the can sounds with a flash hider end cap compared to the brake? Since I've been using my various .30 cal Ti cans on my 20" .223 bolt gun and have some experience there, how would you expect suppression to compare with those vs. the PRC-22? No I don't, but it should sound slightly better than a Recce 5 AM at that point, because there is pretty strong similarity between those two baffle systems and the PRC has a little more volume via being very slightly lighter, and via the length required to be added to put the modular brake/cap system on the core corresponding to more length and volume in the system. I didn't specifically sound test it because the feature of putting the flash suppressor on that is more designed to allow the brake equipped suppressor customer to double duty the can to get more bang for their buck, more than it is designed to be the primary means of how the can is used. |
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Originally Posted By Green0: I have been asked that question at least once before. I couldn't tell you who asked, so it could be you. The really scary part of making a product that niche- is that maybe there is almost no demand for it. 6.5's sound great with 30 cal bore cans. Maybe 6mm makes some sense to have. It's not super attractive to re-visit the production of the brakes we already ran. However for .338" we were probably going to be increasing the bore size of 30cal brakes after anodize, because that's another relatively niche application. I can't say we can't, and I'm not 100% we will, but I guess we could make a 6mm can. This is one of those confusing things, making a new pistol can currently and sales guys are telling me make it short, and I kind of wanted it to be more quiet than normal, not shorter than normal with normal performance, and it seems there are 3 schools of thought- A make it more quiet. B make it shorter while sounding typical of current market options, C Make it very short and louder than normal options. With printing the reality is we could do all 3, allowing everyone to buy their can of choice despite 3 categories of desires. The only thing this challenges is every reseller's desire to have less options. Originally Posted By Green0: Originally Posted By Gtscotty: Is there going to be a PRC-6 or can the PRC-22 handle 6mm bullets? Not relevant to the OP, but I think there's a lot more folks shooting PRS type rifles that this seems to be for, chambered in the various 6mms than .22 CFs. I have been asked that question at least once before. I couldn't tell you who asked, so it could be you. The really scary part of making a product that niche- is that maybe there is almost no demand for it. 6.5's sound great with 30 cal bore cans. Maybe 6mm makes some sense to have. It's not super attractive to re-visit the production of the brakes we already ran. However for .338" we were probably going to be increasing the bore size of 30cal brakes after anodize, because that's another relatively niche application. I can't say we can't, and I'm not 100% we will, but I guess we could make a 6mm can. This is one of those confusing things, making a new pistol can currently and sales guys are telling me make it short, and I kind of wanted it to be more quiet than normal, not shorter than normal with normal performance, and it seems there are 3 schools of thought- A make it more quiet. B make it shorter while sounding typical of current market options, C Make it very short and louder than normal options. With printing the reality is we could do all 3, allowing everyone to buy their can of choice despite 3 categories of desires. The only thing this challenges is every reseller's desire to have less options. I don't think that was me, I might have asked about your 556 gas gun cans handling 6mm ARC because so many do now. As for a PRC-6 being niche, I guess that depends on what target market the PRC cans are aimed at. I my read was that they were somewhat intended for the PRS crowd and if that's the case, 6mm is the most popular caliber in use by a pretty good margin with several popular cartridges, and .224 cal cartridges are much fewer and further between. Add in that many of the newer 6mm cans are similar in size/weight to .223 cans and tend to work well on .223, It seems to me that a .223 only bolt gun can for PRS type uses is a much more niche product than a 6mm can. Here is the 2025 data for most used chamberings by high level PRS competitors from PRB, 25 cal is starting to catch up, but 6mm is still by far the most common.  https://precisionrifleblog.com/2025/09/19/best-rifle-cartridge/ All that said, I actually do run long OAL .223 out of a bolt gun out to 750 and 1k more often than 6mm, but I'm not competing and cost is a driving factor.... No real recommendations for the OP, I'm pretty much always using one of a couple .30 cal cans or my 6mm CAT can on that rifle. |
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Originally Posted By Green0: If mirage is your only issue, I would recommend a cover. Elite Iron has covers that are quite light and that work good for mitigating mirage, and Silencer Co has covers. Mechanics I believe even has a very affordable suppressor cover. Nothing will compete with a good cover for mirage mitigation. It will absolutely stomp out your mirage. @Green0 I do have a cheap cover but I'm worried I'll melt it LOL. Your PRC can interests me for other reasons besides reduced mirage- length/weight, performance, price, and I like Griffin stuff. Do you know offhand how long the can is without the brake or mount? |
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We’ll keep the data in mind. In my personal opinion for every guy in PRS there are 25 guys who own precision rifles that want to be able to correct after a shot, and I would expect most of those to be 6.5 creedmore. This is kind of a really affordable option for them to do that with. The 6mm version if it existed would have to be the length of one of the 556 or 762 versions with a different bore size. So maybe running 762 with a dedicated 6mm brake would make more sense than actually making another model, as the front cap changing does 85% of the work anyway, and a larger bore just means lower influence to poi which the prs people should want. |
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Originally Posted By spot-remover: @Green0 I do have a cheap cover but I'm worried I'll melt it LOL. Your PRC can interests me for other reasons besides reduced mirage- length/weight, performance, price, and I like Griffin stuff. Do you know offhand how long the can is without the brake or mount? I’m pretty confident that even a cheap cover wouldn’t melt doing precision style shooting. You’re shooting like 20rds or less in 3 minutes or less generally, followed by a 20-60 minute break…at least if you’re shooting competitively (PRS/NRL). |
| @Green0 thanks again for the information. I'm starting to lean heavily in the direction of a PRC-22. Now I just have to figure out a mounting option. Currently I'm using TBAC CB brakes on bolt guns .30 caliber and under, Griffin taper mounts on .375 and over, and keymo just because of the Sandman. I've tried to idiot-proof my set-up this way, but adding a .22 CF can to the mix complicates things. My best bet is probably to stick with CB and try to not be an idiot. While I ponder that, could you please let me know the distance to the blast baffle? It's probably on your site, but I didn't see it. |
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I'll throw something out there. B&T Tiger 22 X-Print. Made for 22 rimfire but OK for use on 223 bolt guns. Very light, it is Ti, small about 5 inches and 4 ounces. Maybe this can, with a cover for mirage. I have one on my Ruger American Ranch and it is unbelievably quiet. |
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Thanks again Green0. I probably will stay with the CB mount, I just have to confirm the dimensions. I haven't had a problem mixing up cans in the past and my other .223 already has one. The Tiger is an interesting can that I hadn't heard about before. I don't think it's what I'm looking for in this application, but it's interesting nonetheless. I wonder how it would compare to my Ultra 5 for suppression on a .223. The Ultra 5 is pretty loud on everything else, but does quite well on the .223 due to the limited gas volume it has to deal with. That said, the Scythe Ti is much quieter with a rather small increase in size and weight. |
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Originally Posted By Green0: We’ll keep the data in mind. In my personal opinion for every guy in PRS there are 25 guys who own precision rifles that want to be able to correct after a shot, and I would expect most of those to be 6.5 creedmore. This is kind of a really affordable option for them to do that with. The 6mm version if it existed would have to be the length of one of the 556 or 762 versions with a different bore size. So maybe running 762 with a dedicated 6mm brake would make more sense than actually making another model, as the front cap changing does 85% of the work anyway, and a larger bore just means lower influence to poi which the prs people should want. I'd probably vote for a PRC-22 woggled out to 6mm over the 300 choked down, a little lighter and shorter for those who might want to cross it over for hunting duty. No argument that 6.5 is the most popular caliber for folks who aren't super serious about PRS type shooting, want more energy on target or are hunting and might make a decent compromise bore for 6mm, .25 cal and 6.5mm. Usually it seems like 6.5 cans are .30 cal size/weight and 6mm can be closer to .223 size/weight, that smaller size/weight would be an advantage for some uses. I'm a little confused by the focus on not using a suppressor cover, to me that is basic kit if you're using a can on a longer range rig. Shooting anything centerfire with a higher mag scope, mirage is going to become an issue sooner or later, and there's really no downside to using an appropriate cover. |
| I was the other person asking about a PRC-6. If there ever was a “niche” can, it would be a .223 PRS can. Like the other poster said, PRS, and long range rifle shooting in general is dominated by 6mm. That said, there’s a lot of 6.5mm also. Maybe it could be a PRC-6.5? I understand the PRC-300 works, but nobody wants that loooooong of a can. Think HRT-5K with a 6.5mm bore and braked endcap. That might help fill a hole in your lineup with less overlap. You’d sell hundreds of them. |
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Looks like the CB mount and brake will be very questionable as far as blast baffle clearance with the PRC-22. This is based on the best I could do with measuring parts I have. Of course, all my brakes are loctited onto rifles and my adapters are rocksett into their cans, so there's definitely some potential error. If anyone happens to have the TBAC hub to CB adapter and brakes lying around to measure I'd appreciate it. I haven't managed to track that info down yet. Also, thanks for the continued suggestions. I've had very good luck with Ecco so far and wish they made a little larger .223 option. |
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Originally Posted By Kevinski: I was the other person asking about a PRC-6. If there ever was a “niche” can, it would be a .223 PRS can. Like the other poster said, PRS, and long range rifle shooting in general is dominated by 6mm. That said, there’s a lot of 6.5mm also. Maybe it could be a PRC-6.5? I understand the PRC-300 works, but nobody wants that loooooong of a can. Think HRT-5K with a 6.5mm bore and braked endcap. That might help fill a hole in your lineup with less overlap. You’d sell hundreds of them. We already have a prc 300, and the longer can in development is a prc .338. I think the .300 and .224 are only .550” different in length, but the .338 will be longer. Originally Posted By WI-2021: Looks like the CB mount and brake will be very questionable as far as blast baffle clearance with the PRC-22. This is based on the best I could do with measuring parts I have. Of course, all my brakes are loctited onto rifles and my adapters are rocksett into their cans, so there's definitely some potential error. If anyone happens to have the TBAC hub to CB adapter and brakes lying around to measure I'd appreciate it. I haven't managed to track that info down yet. Also, thanks for the continued suggestions. I've had very good luck with Ecco so far and wish they made a little larger .223 option. My distance measurement of 1.45” didn’t include the hub adapter length added. It looks like TBAC’s cb hub is ~.25” long at least. I can’t get brake length off their website as there are no specifications. |
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I measured .19 from the back of my scythe STM to the back of the TBAC adapter. The adapter sits slightly recessed into that can by about the thickness of the flange on the adapter. If the adapter will sit flush on a PRC-22 I'd gain a bit of clearance. The 2-port brake is 1.72" long total and the non-timed brake is 1.43." Assuming my numbers are accurate, the 2-port brake is a no-go and the non-timed version will clear the blast baffle by 0.21." This also assumes that the rear of the brake sits flush with the rear of the adapter, which has been a reasonable assumption thus far. Is about 0.21" enough clearance? |
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Well @Green0 you sold me. I've ordered a PRC-22 through my LGS. There's a fairly high likelihood that I'll eventually buy a low backpressure 5.56 K can to supplement this and also use on AR's. Now for mounting. I've decided to keep the TBAC CB mounts dedicated to my .30 cal suppressors and add yet another mounting system for the 5.56 can. Since I'm already using CB, Plan A, and Keymo for different applications, I'm leaning toward one of the Plan B options for this can. Of course, lots of companies make Plan B "compatible" parts, but I'd like to avoid as many compatibility issues as I can, so the plan is to pick a manufacturer and stick with them for all Plan B adapters and muzzle devices. I'm thinking of using Comstock Armory since they have a wide variety of options and look to be a one-stop shop. I'd probably use their standard adapters and the compact muzzle brakes for this application. Does anyone have any experiences to share about their products? |
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Originally Posted By WI-2021: Well @Green0 you sold me. I've ordered a PRC-22 through my LGS. There's a fairly high likelihood that I'll eventually buy a low backpressure 5.56 K can to supplement this and also use on AR's. Now for mounting. I've decided to keep the TBAC CB mounts dedicated to my .30 cal suppressors and add yet another mounting system for the 5.56 can. Since I'm already using CB, Plan A, and Keymo for different applications, I'm leaning toward one of the Plan B options for this can. Of course, lots of companies make Plan B "compatible" parts, but I'd like to avoid as many compatibility issues as I can, so the plan is to pick a manufacturer and stick with them for all Plan B adapters and muzzle devices. I'm thinking of using Comstock Armory since they have a wide variety of options and look to be a one-stop shop. I'd probably use their standard adapters and the compact muzzle brakes for this application. Does anyone have any experiences to share about their products? I would just direct thread for bolt action purposes. |
| The PRC-22 is home, as are the Comstock Plan-B goodies. I took it out today and shot some groups with my 20" custom build bolt gun. Holy shit is it quiet! Since I was alone on the range, I ditched the ear pro for the last group. Most of the noise is sonic crack and the bullet hitting the target. POI was about 1 MOA lower than the same rifle with my Ultra 5, but that's to be expected since the can weighs twice as much. Not sure how well the brake works, since it's only a .223, but spotting hits was easy. I'm very satisfied overall and highly recommend the PRC-22 for bolt guns. |
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Originally Posted By WI-2021: The PRC-22 is home, as are the Comstock Plan-B goodies. I took it out today and shot some groups with my 20" custom build bolt gun. Holy shit is it quiet! Since I was alone on the range, I ditched the ear pro for the last group. Most of the noise is sonic crack and the bullet hitting the target. POI was about 1 MOA lower than the same rifle with my Ultra 5, but that's to be expected since the can weighs twice as much. Not sure how well the brake works, since it's only a .223, but spotting hits was easy. I'm very satisfied overall and highly recommend the PRC-22 for bolt guns. It was conversational indoors. I’m glad you got a chance to hear it. |
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