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11/14/2024 11:24:42 AM EDT
Seems for a long time everyone seemed to always want the "pre safety" Marlin lever guns, such as the 1894 and 336. They seemed to pull a small premium over later models with the safety.  
I have two 1894's, both early 80's pre safety and a few years ago when I bought them, new ones were not being made, (after they stopped making them, but before the buyout) and seemed people were looking for the older ones because of the spotty quality of the rem made ones. Prices seemed to be between 1k and 1500. I think I gave around $1100 for mine.
I started looking around yesterday and seems older Marlins are now only selling for $700-900.
Curious if it is the economy effecting value/prices, or if the fact they are now back in production and you can buy new ones, and older pre safety models are no longer "desirable".
11/14/2024 3:05:41 PM EDT
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I've found with "JM" marked, pre safety models, that the ones that have increased in value are the limited editions. Currently, the 1894 models that are the most sought after are the "Cowboy Limited" (CL) and the "Cowboy Carbine Limited" (CCL). These came in all kinds of different calibers and barrel lengths so there is a lot of variations. Collectors are trying to get an example of each variation.
Gary
11/30/2024 11:53:06 AM EDT
[#2]
I'm guessing new production has put a hamper on values of older ones.
But I do not really blame anyone. Why pay more for a used one when you can get new one.
Unless someone is specifically looking for a old pre safety model.
I had toyed with selling mine, but I think I am better off keeping them.
11/30/2024 12:07:13 PM EDT
[#3]
Funny story.  

I own a late 1950's 336.  Way back in the 70's my uncle stored it in a wool lined gun case and the barrel pitted to hell and gone, so he ordered a replacement Marlin barrel  from Numrich and had a gunsmith swap it out before he gave it to me.  

Since it never made it to the Marlin factory for install it does not have an JM proof mark although all the other roll marks are present.   I've had a good half dozen people accuse me of faking the gun to scam collectors, even though I'd never sell it.  .
12/25/2024 11:34:58 PM EDT
[#4]
To me, no.  

Take 5 minutes and put in a safety delete.
1/19/2025 8:32:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheQuadfather:
To me, no.  

Take 5 minutes and put in a safety delete.
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I put safety deletes in all mine.  But that has more to due with the safety being accidently getting pushed and the gun not firing when hunting.
“If liberty means anything at all it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”
George Orwell, Animal Farm
1/20/2025 8:47:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ScottyPotty:
I put safety deletes in all mine.  But that has more to due with the safety being accidently getting pushed and the gun not firing when hunting.
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I remember a couple years ago a friend of mine came over to my place and was going to sight in his 336 in 30-30. We set it up on the bench and he went to fire it and the hammer fell but no boom. He cycles it, looks at the primer and no hit. He tried again and the same thing. One more time and he was seriously like WTF.
Then we found out he had the safety on.

It was my turn to say WTF. What kind of crappy safety is that. It does not prevent the trigger from being pulled, or the hammer from falling. It just prevents the hammer from hitting the firing pin.
While yes, it does prevent the gun from firing, if someone does not notice it is on, they could assume like he did and think it was a ammo problem and just cycle it again and again, missing his shots.
I would rather have no safety at all then have something like that.
1/20/2025 9:32:37 AM EDT
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My Dad put a 22lr through his living room mirror trying to decock a 1964 39A with a scope.
How do most store a pre safety lever gun when it needs to be ready to use? AKA loaded chamber.
My Dad killed varmints from house windows several times a week.
1/20/2025 10:45:33 AM EDT
[#8]
I never see pre safety Marlins. In fact, never see levers at all in my area.
1/20/2025 6:14:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AR_Dale:
My Dad put a 22lr through his living room mirror trying to decock a 1964 39A with a scope.
How do most store a pre safety lever gun when it needs to be ready to use? AKA loaded chamber.
My Dad killed varmints from house windows several times a week.
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Point gun in safe direction, hold hammer back while pulling the trigger.  Let hammer come forward just a little then release the trigger.  Let the hammer come down to rest at the half cock position.

Likely the scope interfered with thumb placement on the hammer and his thumb slipped off.  

“If liberty means anything at all it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”
George Orwell, Animal Farm
1/20/2025 6:52:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ScottyPotty:

Point gun in safe direction, hold hammer back while pulling the trigger.  Let hammer come forward just a little then release the trigger.  Let the hammer come down to rest at the half cock position.

Likely the scope interfered with thumb placement on the hammer and his thumb slipped off.  

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Yes, that's the plan. Not sure what my Dad did, he was never super safe doing anything. Amazed he lived to 90.
I just wondered if that was the common method.
1/21/2025 9:26:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AR_Dale:


Yes, that's the plan. Not sure what my Dad did, he was never super safe doing anything. Amazed he lived to 90.
I just wondered if that was the common method.
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Absolutely the common method. A hammer spur is a safety item on a scoped levergun.
1/21/2025 2:54:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sabocat:
Absolutely the common method. A hammer spur is a safety item on a scoped levergun.
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I had one on a Handi rifle 300 BO, the spur caused light primer strikes.
1/27/2025 11:13:51 PM EDT
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I’m one of the few who actually prefers the safety. I used to be indifferent, until one cold day at the range when my thumb slipped off the hammer (with an offset hammer spur) when I was trying to decock, and as result had an ND, luckily into the berm. After that day I always use the safety when decocking, I can’t think of any good reason not to.

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