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Posted: 12/4/2023 6:42:59 PM EDT
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I watched the Brass Facts review of the LS-M3 and LS-FL5 and it got me curious about trying one. Evidently, Laserspeed is coming out with an M3 that moves the IR, Vis, and IR Designator to one side of the body like a Holosun 321G called the Laserspeed LS-M6. I'd like to give it a try, but pre-ordering a unit while having no idea about the specs, performance, durability, and switch compatibility is tough. Does anyone have any more insights or color on this new unit?  upload images |
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Just received the Laserspeed M3 and it's a fantastic laser! I was worried about the quality but other than the remote switch port, I'd say it's on par with Steiner Dbal D2's. The tape switch is the weak point IMO. There's little tiny wires on the tape switch side that are only held in with little set screws. I'll probably end up getting a 90 degree end and soldering the wires in, if I decide I need to use the tape switch. This is a FP unit that reaches WAY out. It's a solid unit. I would venture to guess the M6 will be just as good. In for other comments. ETA: Where are you finding the M6 for pre-order? |
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Originally Posted By Nobody69s: Just received the Laserspeed M3 and it's a fantastic laser! I was worried about the quality but other than the remote switch port, I'd say it's on par with Steiner Dbal D2's. The tape switch is the weak point IMO. There's little tiny wires on the tape switch side that are only held in with little set screws. I'll probably end up getting a 90 degree end and soldering the wires in, if I decide I need to use the tape switch. This is a FP unit that reaches WAY out. It's a solid unit. I would venture to guess the M6 will be just as good. In for other comments. ETA: Where are you finding the M6 for pre-order? https://www.ebay.com/itm/395031519419?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=wjjowzbbtx6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=rTrrhxZ6QZC&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY I’m dubbing it the “ChinGAL” (copyright of French&Associates) Too bad they made the fire button for lefties, but at least you can change the batteries on it unlike the RAID |
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Originally Posted By French1966: https://www.ebay.com/itm/395031519419?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=wjjowzbbtx6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=rTrrhxZ6QZC&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY I'm dubbing it the "ChinGAL" (copyright of French&Associates) Too bad they made the fire button for lefties, but at least you can change the batteries on it unlike the RAID I really hate to support the commies but it's a legit FP laser. The FDA needs to pull their heads out of their asses and let us have FP units. |
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Originally Posted By French1966: Too bad they made the fire button for lefties, but at least you can change the batteries on it unlike the RAID |
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Definitely interested in this, looks way more compact and nicer than the prior offerings. I'll probably pick one up when I have the funds and sell my LS321. Finally something made for lefties! I have no qualms purchasing this from China when other options are trash in their own unique ways. Whether it's price, illuminator, etc. Competition breeds innovation. We don't have to accept getting bent over by other manufacturers. |
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So, this or the Z-Bolt ACAL. I realize they are different beasts but roughly in the same ballpark on price point. |
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Originally Posted By atek3: So, this or the Z-Bolt ACAL. I realize they are different beasts but roughly in the same ballpark on price point. You mean this, the ACAL, or the Holosun IRIS. Holosun dude on Reddit says under 1K and has a VCSEL illuminator. |
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Originally Posted By KC-ROUGHNECK: These have been shipping for a week or so. Curious if anyone here has one yet. I've seen some pictures but no video. I ordered two, one from the Ebay site and another here stateside after being impressed with the first. They replaced my LS321Gs if that tells you anything. Great build quality, holds zero, insanely powerful.. as in, you will torch someone's nutsack off with the illuminator There are a number of videos on YouTube at this point. Criminally underrated LAMs IMO |
| There is going to be a group buy found elsewhere for an exclusive (for now) version that is lighter, has a better fire button placement for right-handers, and takes Crane plug. |
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Originally Posted By DDS87: There is going to be a group buy found elsewhere for an exclusive (for now) version that is lighter, has a better fire button placement for right-handers, and takes Crane plug. Here are the prototype photos for anyone interested. Courtesy of the reddit user who is doing the group buy and helped Laserspeed with design input. I’ll probably post here whenever the units are ready for purchase, and can help people get in contact with the seller (I don’t think they’ll be available direct from laserspeed unless they adopt it as the gen2 M6 design). It looks very promising I went ahead and ordered a regular M6 to mess with, and will probably post a review of it at some point. Depending on how It goes I’ll grab one of these revised ones also. Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By French1966: Here are the prototype photos for anyone interested. Courtesy of the reddit user who is doing the group buy and helped Laserspeed with design input. I’ll probably post here whenever the units are ready for purchase, and can help people get in contact with the seller (I don’t think they’ll be available direct from laserspeed unless they adopt it as the gen2 M6 design). It looks very promising I went ahead and ordered a regular M6 to mess with, and will probably post a review of it at some point. Depending on how It goes I’ll grab one of these revised ones also. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496867/IMG_0395_jpeg-3165807.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496867/IMG_0396_jpeg-3165808.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496867/IMG_0397_jpeg-3165809.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496867/IMG_0398_jpeg-3165810.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496867/IMG_0399_jpeg-3165812.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496867/IMG_0400_jpeg-3165814.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496867/IMG_0401_jpeg-3165815.JPG The M6 is great in its current form, they should have went with this new design from the start though. Looks like a totally different unit One interesting part.. the center (between laser & battery compartment) on the M6 is hollow, with a rubber plug on the end for tool storage. They must have collapsed this gap and shrunk the horizontal size |
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Just got one to mess with. So far the biggest drawback I see is the lack of illuminator diffuser for CQB as well as no neutral density filter for the ir pointer. Basically there’s no way to get a “pointer low/illuminator high” setting. They should have built that in to the settings if they weren’t going to make a diffuser/NDF cover… but china is gonna china That as well as the obvious things that people have pointed out such as the fire button location. As a right handed shooter I can’t use the onboard fire button, so that’s obviously a dealbreaker for some. Wasn’t a dealbreaker for me because I planned on using the included tape switch system (which is surprisingly of good quality). Even the plug system seems pretty robust, at least much better than anything that came on the early Russia Perst units. May eventually do a review of it once I get enough time using it. Somebody good with 3D printing could easily make a diffuser for the illuminator. If any of you guys are interested in that project let me know and I’ll do my best to get you measurements or send the unit to you (I’m thinking of the guy who did all the cool stuff with the perst products). I have some pretty good ideas of how to do it and would help someone with design input. Attached File |
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There are 90 degree switches available on their ebay/aliexpress pages, around $30 each shipped. I'm able to grip mine and hit the button as a right-hander, but it's not ideal. Just can't understand the design logic of this layout. In an email exchange Laserspeed confirmed they're making changes, presumably the crane port and the button placement (feedback has been universal on both) This thing is insanely powerful and holds zero.. easy to overlook it's shortcomings given the actual performance. I would 10000% recommend one over the Somogear gamble for a FP unit 
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Originally Posted By Horrible_Aim: There are 90 degree switches available on their ebay/aliexpress pages, around $30 each shipped. I'm able to grip mine and hit the button as a right-hander, but it's not ideal. Just can't understand the design logic of this layout. In an email exchange Laserspeed confirmed they're making changes, presumably the crane port and the button placement (feedback has been universal on both) This thing is insanely powerful and holds zero.. easy to overlook it's shortcomings given the actual performance. I would 10000% recommend one over the Somogear gamble for a FP unit https://i.imgur.com/9jhNYmA.jpeg @Horrible_Aim Do you happen to have a link for the 90 degree switches? I looked on ebay and aliexpress but can’t find anything. Would love to buy one. |
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Originally Posted By French1966: @Horrible_Aim Do you happen to have a link for the 90 degree switches? I looked on ebay and aliexpress but can’t find anything. Would love to buy one. https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806389787716.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.11.21ef1802yuxaVC&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa Let me know if this link works. Their store pages aren't labeled very well, hard to find stuff |
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Originally Posted By Horrible_Aim: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806389787716.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.11.21ef1802yuxaVC&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa Let me know if this link works. Their store pages aren't labeled very well, hard to find stuff That’s awesome, thanks |
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Originally Posted By French1966: Here are the prototype photos for anyone interested. Courtesy of the reddit user who is doing the group buy and helped Laserspeed with design input. I’ll probably post here whenever the units are ready for purchase, and can help people get in contact with the seller (I don’t think they’ll be available direct from laserspeed unless they adopt it as the gen2 M6 design). It looks very promising I went ahead and ordered a regular M6 to mess with, and will probably post a review of it at some point. Depending on how It goes I’ll grab one of these revised ones also. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496867/IMG_0395_jpeg-3165807.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496867/IMG_0396_jpeg-3165808.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496867/IMG_0397_jpeg-3165809.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496867/IMG_0398_jpeg-3165810.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496867/IMG_0399_jpeg-3165812.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496867/IMG_0400_jpeg-3165814.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496867/IMG_0401_jpeg-3165815.JPG Any idea when this version will be available? Seems like this and the ACAL are the ones to beat? Did I miss pricing somewhere? |
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Originally Posted By Rlsmith96: Any idea when this version will be available? Seems like this and the ACAL are the ones to beat? Did I miss pricing somewhere? Reddit group buy. First is a batch of 30 at the end of April, then more down the line. He isn't taking pre-orders or reservations, so we're basically just stuck hitting the refresh button until he posts it |
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| The current buy started 2 days ago. I was able to score 1. They look very promising. I have a current generation ZenitCo PERST 4that was modified by Freedom Engineering to accept a crane plug. It works well and now I'm able to link it with my Z-Bolt IR light to fire linked. https://freedom-eng.us/ |
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Looks like they're just rolling out to YouTube reviewers right now. I'm highly interested in this one, but I'm a bit skeptical about it since Laserspeed is not a company I have any experience with and it's of course Chinese. I will say, that increasingly the Chinese are improving their quality, rather rapidly honestly. Weapon sights, thermals, and now MFALs with even some although lackluste affordable night vision entries lately. China's military industrial complex is starting to get up there, the USA better wake up. I'm looking forward to seeing 4MR Ranch's review on YouTube of it. |
    Just got mine in from Reddit guy. Great deal and ultra fast shipping. This thing if it holds up is a killer. Form factor is fantastic. Ngal sized. The only critique I have of it so far in my kitchen is that the focus knob for illum should be a much faster thread pitch. I suspect there is a sweet spot and I'll 3d print a rat rail for it that gives it about 2/3rds of a turn. It has about 3 or so turns from lock to lock. But haven't tried it under nods yet.wish I had a place for night shooting, still working on that 
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Also, holy shit this thing is a damn flamethrower. The laser is real nice, not over powering on high, and the focus has a lot of range. I think a 3d printed cap that uses the peq diffuser elements is a new project for me. Someone else will probably have one out not too long from now, but in the meantime. I already did a 3d printed throw lever and like I thought there is about a 1/2 turn that goes from wide open to "pretty tight at 100yds" the rest turns the illuminator into basically a laser pointer. Almost no spread at tightest focus at 100 yds. I was way off on my 3 turns from tight to diffused, it is really just 1 turn. so far without shooting it is a win for just under $1K. eta v1 of a 3d printed cat tail I made up for it, adjustment is very easy now.  |
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