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9/28/2024 1:51:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: osprey21][Edited]
After seeing a few guys turn an airsoft M203 into a short range black powder firing shotgun, has anyone ever thought of developing a tough, yet frangible on impact Taginn round, loaded with an irritant powder, such as reaper pepper powder? Might be good for dispersing a crowd of bandits.

I think it may be an interesting concept to explore, given past successes with the OEG mount and the Hush Puppy.
9/26/2024 6:22:33 PM EDT
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Don't they make pepper rounds for 37mm, or am I imagining things?

Not sure the legalities, but if it's less hassle, I'm all for it.
9/26/2024 6:22:34 PM EDT
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Pretty sure it would have to be registered as a DD for a job like that. What saves the shotgun conversions is blackpowder and no fixed ammo. Going theough NFA headaches you miggt as well get a real one.
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9/26/2024 6:33:20 PM EDT
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Perhaps someone can make a "projectile" filled with cayenne pepper, in a frangible casing...
9/26/2024 6:36:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NotIssued:
Don't they make pepper rounds for 37mm, or am I imagining things?

Not sure the legalities, but if it's less hassle, I'm all for it.
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They do, but anything but flares and similar out of a 37mm, and it is no longer a "signalling device". Even less lethal is an antipersonnel round and it becomes a DD.

Of course, you could try and claim a sporting exemption, like you are only planning to use pepper and rubber bullets for self defense against bears and hope they accept that.
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9/26/2024 7:03:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Retroguy2][Edited] [#5]
Looked on You Tube and they have a BUNCH of videos regarding frangible Taginn rounds. Fill one of the chalk rounds with pepper powder and BINGO!
9/26/2024 7:42:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By shack357:

They do, but anything but flares and similar out of a 37mm, and it is no longer a "signalling device". Even less lethal is an antipersonnel round and it becomes a DD.

Of course, you could try and claim a sporting exemption, like you are only planning to use pepper and rubber bullets for self defense against bears and hope they accept that.
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Thx for the education.
9/26/2024 8:01:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Retroguy2:
After seeing a few guys turn an airsoft M203 into a short range black powder firing shotgun, has anyone ever thought of developing a tough, yet frangible on impact Taginn round, loaded with an irritant powder, such as reaper pepper powder? Might be good for dispersing a crowd of bandits.

I think it may be an interesting concept to explore, given past successes with the OEG mount and the Hush Puppy.
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What does this or any of your other threads have to do with retro AR15/m16s?
 You seem to be posting all over to get a footprint established, like another new member in the AR15 forum who posted 10 year old posts verbatim.
 Also pushing into the illegal realms of things.  Mighty spry for a 2x MI and stroke patient.  
  Awfully suspicious.
9/26/2024 8:08:51 PM EDT
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OP’s probably a retread
9/26/2024 8:25:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gurn-blanston:


What does this or any of your other threads have to do with retro AR15/m16s?
 You seem to be posting all over to get a footprint established, like another new member in the AR15 forum who posted 10 year old posts verbatim.
 Also pushing into the illegal realms of things.  Mighty spry for a 2x MI and stroke patient.  
  Awfully suspicious.
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Much fuckery seems to be afoot around here as of late.
Can't never could 'til try came along.

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9/26/2024 9:24:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Retroguy2][Edited] [#10]
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR:

Much fuckery seems to be afoot around here as of late.
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Folks read too much into things.

Guys here developed the BP shotgun, hence the tie-in.
9/27/2024 10:35:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Retroguy2:
After seeing a few guys turn an airsoft M203 into a short range black powder firing shotgun, has anyone ever thought of developing a tough, yet frangible on impact Taginn round, loaded with an irritant powder, such as reaper pepper powder? Might be good for dispersing a crowd of bandits.

I think it may be an interesting concept to explore, given past successes with the OEG mount and the Hush Puppy.
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Sounds like a good way to piss off a hoard of bandits - A normal 12 gauge is better and can fire such rounds over the counter.
10/5/2024 1:56:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Retroguy2:
After seeing a few guys turn an airsoft M203 into a short range black powder firing shotgun, has anyone ever thought of developing a tough, yet frangible on impact Taginn round, loaded with an irritant powder, such as reaper pepper powder? Might be good for dispersing a crowd of bandits.

I think it may be an interesting concept to explore, given past successes with the OEG mount and the Hush Puppy.
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If your looking for a platform for launching a pepper spray or powder why not just buy the pepper balls that fire from a paintball marker? Check out ANS gear they sell all sorts of riot control pepper balls and non lethal stuff.
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9/20/2025 12:34:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By gurn-blanston:


What does this or any of your other threads have to do with retro AR15/m16s?
 You seem to be posting all over to get a footprint established, like another new member in the AR15 forum who posted 10 year old posts verbatim.
 Also pushing into the illegal realms of things.  Mighty spry for a 2x MI and stroke patient.  
  Awfully suspicious.
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Yeah, seems a bit bright in here.  You can buy or print your own chalk capsules for 37mm, fill them with marking chalk that you use for chalk lines (you can buy the big jugs at Lowe's HD, etc), but once you start using them for anything other than signaling, especially if it can be considered offensive in any way, you're jumping into DD territory.  Even though there are some very well made airsoft guns out there, there is also zero way I'd trust an airsoft toy with a black powder round even though they are low pressure (if done correctly).  If you want OC powder projectiles you can buy them for paintball guns but they're expensive.  Apparently you can also load your own pepper balls, but I have almost no experience with any sort of paintball equipment.

Aerosol OC "grenades" are also legally available in different sizes; they're like an insect fogger, push down the tab and immediately toss it.  

Just buy a 40mm and register it.

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