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Posted: 11/13/2022 12:33:17 PM EDT
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Are there any surefire tips for determining if the rifle/scope is starting to loose accuracy, or if as I am aging, I am simply not as good of a shot as I once was? Rifle in question is Ruger M77 .270 with Bushnell Elite 3200 3x9 scope. Bought new back in 1999/2000 I would guess. I am now 46 and can definitely tell I am having issues with eyesight changing, and my body is not as steady as it once was. Like I can often see/feel the rifle moving with my heartbeat when shooting on a bench. I certainly don't remember that when I was 25. Undoubtedly, I have a feeling it's me and I just need to spend more time of the rifle during the summer/early fall. |
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Originally Posted By Hunter8282: Are there any surefire tips for determining if the rifle/scope is starting to loose accuracy, or if as I am aging, I am simply not as good of a shot as I once was? Rifle in question is Ruger M77 .270 with Bushnell Elite 3200 3x9 scope. Bought new back in 1999/2000 I would guess. I am now 46 and can definitely tell I am having issues with eyesight changing, and my body is not as steady as it once was. Like I can often see/feel the rifle moving with my heartbeat when shooting on a bench. I certainly don't remember that when I was 25. Undoubtedly, I have a feeling it's me and I just need to spend more time of the rifle during the summer/early fall. As for "feeling your pulse", suggest getting a checkup by M.D. to ensure things are OK with your blood pressure. I'm not an MD, so take advice for checkups as a helpfully intended suggestion, and not medical advice. Usual suggestions for ensuring scope/rings/mount are all secure also pertain. Scopes have been known to fail completely and partially. Suggest you investigate whether or not there is a specified torquing pattern for rifle's action-to-stock screws, and what the torque values of the screws might be. Consult the specific owner's manual for your exact rifle. Owner's manuals Here Defaults to "Pistol"; click "Rifle" at top and find yours. On my Ruger GSR rifle (which is a different, but similar rifle), the torquing instructions and values are these: "d. Install screw at rear of Trigger Guard loosely. e. Install Front Mounting Lug and firmly tighten screw. (This screw is angled and draws the barrel-action assembly into the bedding surface of the stock.) This screw should be tightened to a torque of 90 in-lbs. f. Tighten screw at rear of trigger guard to a torque of 10 in-lbs" As far as can be seen, these torquing instructions for Ruger GSR rifle are not specified in the M77 nor the M77 Mk II Owner's manuals. Checking muzzle crown with a magnifying glass and good light for damage/imperfections also suggested. If you don't know what you are looking for, your gunsmith ought to be able to check it for you. Trying different types/brands of ammo might also help. Best of luck! |
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Originally Posted By Hunter8282: Are there any surefire tips for determining if the rifle/scope is starting to loose accuracy, or if as I am aging, I am simply not as good of a shot as I once was? Rifle in question is Ruger M77 .270 with Bushnell Elite 3200 3x9 scope. Bought new back in 1999/2000 I would guess. I am now 46 and can definitely tell I am having issues with eyesight changing, and my body is not as steady as it once was. Like I can often see/feel the rifle moving with my heartbeat when shooting on a bench. I certainly don't remember that when I was 25. Undoubtedly, I have a feeling it's me and I just need to spend more time of the rifle during the summer/early fall. See if a friend has a Lead Sled you could borrow to take a few shots with. Takes most all of the human element out of it other than pulling the trigger Have you checked the barrel for fouling? |
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Maybe the mounts have loosened up over the years. Pull the scope and base lock tite and torque the screws. Check the action to stock screws as well. Scopes will go bad and not hold zero. With recoil and getting bumped around they will fail. Check the crown on the barrel. Could have gotten damaged. While checking that shine a bright light down the barrel and look for lead and copper fowling. Are you using the same ammo as in the past. Different ammo from the same manufacture can have different powder weights and components from lot to lot. Let alone different manufactures regardless if they are the same bullet weight. Maybe your rifle doesn't like the new stuff. Another reason to reload to control your ammo for accuracy. Of course it could be you. Getting old sure does play games with eyesight. |
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Originally Posted By raf: If you haven't had your eyes checked recently, now would be a good time to do so. Good vision is fundamental to accurate shooting, no matter what type of sights are used. As for "feeling your pulse", suggest getting a checkup by M.D. to ensure things are OK with your blood pressure. I'm not an MD, so take advice for checkups as a helpfully intended suggestion, and not medical advice. Usual suggestions for ensuring scope/rings/mount are all secure also pertain. Scopes have been known to fail completely and partially. Suggest you investigate whether or not there is a specified torquing pattern for rifle's action-to-stock screws, and what the torque values of the screws might be. Consult the specific owner's manual for your exact rifle. Owner's manuals Here Defaults to "Pistol"; click "Rifle" at top and find yours. On my Ruger GSR rifle (which is a different, but similar rifle), the torquing instructions and values are these: "d. Install screw at rear of Trigger Guard loosely. e. Install Front Mounting Lug and firmly tighten screw. (This screw is angled and draws the barrel-action assembly into the bedding surface of the stock.) This screw should be tightened to a torque of 90 in-lbs. f. Tighten screw at rear of trigger guard to a torque of 10 in-lbs" As far as can be seen, these torquing instructions for Ruger GSR rifle are not specified in the M77 nor the M77 Mk II Owner's manuals. Checking muzzle crown with a magnifying glass and good light for damage/imperfections also suggested. If you don't know what you are looking for, your gunsmith ought to be able to check it for you. Trying different types/brands of ammo might also help. Best of luck! That 90 in-lbs that Ruger has published for the GSR does not seem consistent with how they leave the factory. I recently read that figure, torqued mine down to 90 and discovered the stock was no longer free floating. I relieved the barrel channel so it’s clear. I haven’t had time to shoot it since. I’m quite curious to see how it effects accuracy which was okay, but not great before. |
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Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: That 90 in-lbs that Ruger has published for the GSR does not seem consistent with how they leave the factory. I recently read that figure, torqued mine down to 90 and discovered the stock was no longer free floating. I relieved the barrel channel so it's clear. I haven't had time to shoot it since. I'm quite curious to see how it effects accuracy which was okay, but not great before. It's not surprising that at least some GSRs have incorrect torquing of the screws. The Ruger syn stock which I use is free-floating with proper torque applied; never bothered to check the OEM laminated stock. |
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