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4/9/2026 10:56:11 AM EDT
So I have a Vector Arms Mini UZI. They used a Group Industries full size receiver and cut it down into a mini. Sold them as semi auto carbines. I keep trying to SBR it but the ATF keeps disapproving it. First they didn't like that I put Vector Arms as the manufacturer. So then I tried again putting Group Industries as the manufacturer. Denied again!! Now they are saying they want Vector Arms!! I guess I'll just keep trying, but it's really annoying!! Glad there's no tax at least!! What do you guys think I should put on my Form 1?
4/9/2026 11:02:08 AM EDT
[#1]
I know this is old data and of a slightly different model, but when I paper form 1'ed my Vector full size Uzi in 2013 I had Vector listed as the manufacturer and put Group Industries under the "additional description" section. I was approved without redos then, no idea about now.
4/9/2026 11:56:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: giantpune][Edited] [#2]
My full size uzi is a vector built on a group industries receiver.  I submitted the form 1 with group industries and that model number.  It got delayed and they asked me for photos of the markings as it wasn't in their system.  I sent in the photos and got the approved form 1.  Mine was an e-form a few years ago.
4/9/2026 3:21:37 PM EDT
[#3]
Submit two sets of forms in the same packet for the same gun… they have to approve one and reject the other.
4/9/2026 7:53:39 PM EDT
[#4]
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Submit two sets of forms in the same packet for the same gun… they have to approve one and reject the other.
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In my experience, if you have multiple forms open for the same gun at the same time, it confuses the shit out of them.
4/9/2026 8:25:53 PM EDT
[#5]
Did you list the previously denied control numbers so the examiners can see what their co-workers have said?
4/9/2026 9:00:40 PM EDT
[#6]
My experience is they don't care what the manufacturer calls that model. They want you to specify what is engraved on the firearm for the manufacturer and the model. Send them a picture of that engraving and specify that information in the e-forms line item and, if it's a trust, in the RP form.

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