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Posted: 5/20/2020 11:21:53 AM EDT
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I've read through a bunch of the helmet/ear pro threads, but couldn't find what I was looking for. Was hoping to find a headset that I could just wear without the helmet, but if I wanted to, could still attach to the helmet. I don't spend any time in my gear, but it seems silly to have full body armor and helmet, but not hearing protection integrated. Any recommendations? |
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Originally Posted By donnieR32: What about Surefire EP4 Sonic Defenders? Anyone have experience with them? ETA: apparently not what I thought. 15 dollar plugs They work just fine for most shooting activity. I have a few pairs that I keep around for emergencies, or when Im dumb and forget my electronic ear pro. |
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Originally Posted By phurba: OPS Core AMP. Designed to easily move between a headband and rail-mounted supports. https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-tdvizl1wrj/images/stencil/original/products/928/7270/AMP_Headset_01_tan__99599.1579544603.jpg?c=2 https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-tdvizl1wrj/images/stencil/original/products/928/7157/AMP_Headset_02__80125.1566593401.jpg?c=2 The downlead and mic even detach so you don't look like a choad at the indoor range  All the money, but this is the best option that is out currently. |
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Originally Posted By phurba: OPS Core AMP. Designed to easily move between a headband and rail-mounted supports. https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-tdvizl1wrj/images/stencil/original/products/928/7270/AMP_Headset_01_tan__99599.1579544603.jpg?c=2 https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-tdvizl1wrj/images/stencil/original/products/928/7157/AMP_Headset_02__80125.1566593401.jpg?c=2 The downlead and mic even detach so you don't look like a choad at the indoor range I don't have rails on my ACH. I don't think there are holes on the sides to mount anything come to think of it. |
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If you don't wear your gear much, don't waste time and money on an integrated/rail mounted headset. Shit, I use my gear all the time and I don't have my headset mounted on my opscore rails. For exactly that reason, I don't want to keep swapping it,a nd I dont always wear my helmet when I need earpro. you can move your pads around in the ACH to accommodate just about any headset. Especially on an ACH, where the integrated ear pro works like ass because, like the ones pictured above, they're all designed for a hi-cut helmet. There’s a reason SOF went with the full on high cut OpsCore instead of getting rails for their ACH/MICH helmets. Attached File Remove the center crown pad and replace it with two of the small pads set sideways one in the front one in the back of the space that the crown pad currently occupies. You aren’t doing an airborne operation so you don’t NEED a full crown pad. Your headset will fit perfectly between the two. Attached File I'd recomment the Howard Leights or the Walker razors (NOT the Quads. The Quads definitely dont fit) because both are low profile and will fit under the sides of the ACH. If you want to get spendy, the Peltors are what SOF issues. MSA Liberators (with the neck band) work even better both in sound quality and are lower profile. You're gonna pay as much as a gun for a set though Quoted: What about Surefire EP4 Sonic Defenders? Anyone have experience with them? ETA: apparently not what I thought. 15 dollar plugs they rock. Way better than foamies. |
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Originally Posted By NoMoAMMO: These are what I wear most of the time, added benefit of fitting in my issue ACH. Not as nice the comtacs on my high cut but I wear them alot more. Originally Posted By NoMoAMMO: Originally Posted By donnieR32: Thoughts on Sordin Supreme Pro Neckband?  I'm the loser talking to himself....These are what I wear most of the time, added benefit of fitting in my issue ACH. Not as nice the comtacs on my high cut but I wear them alot more. An issued ACH is also what I'm working with.... circa 2009 model |
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Here’s a set of MSA’s w the mesh headband and neckband in the back in an old 2006ish ACH. You have to go pretty low profile to get a headset to fit, but they will. I’ve seen some guys put rails on their ACH’s and get the Peltor Arc Rail adapters but they always seem to be a huge pain in the ass and don’t work as well as just going under the helmet. Unless you're going to do a DIY chop-job or shell out for a hi-cut you're not going to use much, it's the way to go. Attached File Attached File The headsets I've seen work best: MSA/Sordin's Peltor COMTACs Howard Leights Walker Razors |
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Originally Posted By demoMouse: Here’s a set of MSA’s w the mesh headband and neckband in the back in a 2006ish ACH. You have to go pretty low profile to get a headset to fit, but they will. I’ve seen some guys put rails on their ACH’s and get the Peltor Arc Rail adapters but they always seem to be a huge pain in the ass and don’t work as well as just going under the helmet. Unless you're going to do a DIY chop-job or shell out for a hi-cut you're not going to use much, it's the way to go. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427499/E77C46D1-F486-48ED-B0DD-0944BF849A95_jpe-1425099.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427499/D9205481-C8DB-41A2-AAD4-2731542F2196_jpe-1425100.JPG I think neck is the way to go. Not sure if I want to spring 500 for the one's you have, but for half the price, I csb get the Sirdin Supreme Pro.... |
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Originally Posted By donnieR32: I think neck is the way to go. Not sure if I want to spring 500 for the one's you have, but for half the price, I csb get the Sirdin Supreme Pro.... Yah, I got these via the Army. They’re fantastic but I probably wouldn’t throw down $700 for a tactical headset. Not when I can drop 1/3 of that or less and still get something functional. I’d bet the less expensive MSA/Sordin version still works really well. |
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Originally Posted By demoMouse: If you don't wear your gear much, don't waste time and money on an integrated/rail mounted headset. Shit, I use my gear all the time and I don't have my headset mounted on my opscore rails. For exactly that reason, I don't want to keep swapping it,a nd I dont always wear my helmet when I need earpro. you can move your pads around in the ACH to accommodate just about any headset. Especially on an ACH, where the integrated ear pro works like ass. There’s a reason SOF went with the full on high cut OpsCore instead of getting rails for their ACH/MICH helmets. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427499/A31C62BB-6574-4B61-9F3A-D3D5DEC271F1_jpe-1425083.JPG Remove the center crown pad and replace it with two of the small pads set sideways one in the front one in the back of the space that the crown pad currently occupies. You aren’t doing an airborne operation so you don’t NEED a full crown pad. Your headset will fit perfectly between the two. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427499/8A65C3DA-2721-414E-870D-C86AE0F65F48_jpe-1425091.JPG I'd recomment the Howard Leights or the Walker razors (NOT the Quads. The Quads definitely dont fit) because both are low profile and will fit under the sides of the ACH. If you want to get spendy, the Peltors are what SOF issues. MSA Liberators (with the neck band) work even better both in sound quality and are lower profile. You're gonna pay as much as a gun for a set though they rock. Way better than foamies. This. Before ach got its name it was called the Mich, modular integrated communication helmet, because it came with a complete communication kit, included sordins that were meant to be worn with the helmet. All of this to say that the ach was born to be compatible with headsets. |
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Originally Posted By donnieR32: Thoughts on Sordin Supreme Pro Neckband? I'm the loser talking to himself....I was issued those with my ACH awhile back and hated them. The neckband was funky and just got in the way of my helmets occ dial. My unit ended up ordering a ton of Comtacs to replace them and they worked way better with our helmets. As posted above, it's really all about pad setup and having a compatible chinstrap installed - the Ops Core H-Nape is pretty comfortable, just make sure to pull the lead and the mic through so it's not under any straps. |
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Originally Posted By skindroid: I was issued those with my ACH awhile back and hated them. The neckband was funky and just got in the way of my helmets occ dial. My unit ended up ordering a ton of Comtacs to replace them and they worked way better with our helmets. As posted above, it's really all about pad setup and having a compatible chinstrap installed - the Ops Core H-Nape is pretty comfortable, just make sure to pull the lead and the mic through so it's not under any straps. Originally Posted By skindroid: Originally Posted By donnieR32: Thoughts on Sordin Supreme Pro Neckband? I'm the loser talking to himself....I was issued those with my ACH awhile back and hated them. The neckband was funky and just got in the way of my helmets occ dial. My unit ended up ordering a ton of Comtacs to replace them and they worked way better with our helmets. As posted above, it's really all about pad setup and having a compatible chinstrap installed - the Ops Core H-Nape is pretty comfortable, just make sure to pull the lead and the mic through so it's not under any straps. Greatly appreciated. |
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I have an XL Mich 2000 helmet. I also have a choice between the TCI Liberator II/Sordin Supreme With neckband, and the Sordin Supreme Pro with headband. Also have loads of pads/kits. I think I'll try the TCI/Neckband rig first. I doubt that there are any rail-mounted EarPro attachments for my OEM, low-cut helmet, but if I am wrong, let me know. |
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Quoted: I never could resolve the issue of a headset clunking around the sides of a low cut ACH/PASGT cut helmet, so I went with Peltor electronic ear plugs, which are fine since I don't run comms. Did you try some very thin (1/16") closed-cell foam? Can stick it to the inside of the helmet, or to the outside of the earcups. Perhaps a helmet one size up from "normal" might provide more room. |
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