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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:36:38 PM EDT
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Updated price 09/13/2024 Incredibly- $899 Tempted to buy a 2nd one at that price!!! https://www.dsarms.com/p-17540-ds-arms-sa58-fal-primary-pistol-825-barrel-762x51mm.aspx The catch? It’s a pistol with an 8” barrel! Also, it’s a weekly deal so I don’t know how long the price will last. I have one that I honestly love to shoot. Already did the form 1 and Made it into an SBR. Only down side is if you are planning this route DSA used a pistol lower on this so if you want to eventually put a stock on it you’ll have to swap out the lower for a traditional lower. Here’s mine after converting to a SBR with a Rugged Radiant 762 suppressor. Attached File |
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Before doing the SBR paperwork I took it to the shooting range to make sure it w ok I’ll reliably shoot and was very happy with the results. I hadn’t gotten my suppressor yet so shooting was done with just the flash hider as it came from the factory. I was expecting a huge fireball or it be obnoxiously loud or uncontrollable/uncomfortable recoil and I didn’t notice any of those things. I hadn’t put any sights on it either and was just sighting down the top of the pistol to aim and was only shooting at an indoor range at 20 yards and was able to keep all my shots inside a 3”-4” circle. |
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Originally Posted By Jozsi: Who has this in stock now? https://www.dsarms.com/p-17308-hirtenberger-762x51mm-nato-147-grain-fmj-400-round-can-on-stripper-clips-in-bandoliers.aspx Shipping is expensive though. This is a better deal. Free shipping and I don't think they are charging tax. https://max-arms.com/product/fn-7-62-x-51-nato-linked-500rds-surplus-ammo-copy/ |
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Originally Posted By Princeton: Just checked and no longer on sale!!! https://www.dsarms.com/p-17540-ds-arms-sa58-fal-primary-pistol-825-barrel-762x51mm.aspx The catch? It’s a pistol with an 8” barrel! Also, it’s a weekly deal so I don’t know how long the price will last. I have one that I honestly love to shoot. Already did the form 1 and Made it into an SBR. Only down side is if you are planning this route DSA used a pistol lower on this so if you want to eventually put a stock on it you’ll have to swap out the lower for a traditional lower. Here’s mine after converting to a SBR with a Rugged Radiant 762 suppressor. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1241/IMG_1269_jpeg-3199955.JPG Op, which top rail did you purchase for your gun? I looked on DSA’s site and they have quite a few different ones available. |
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Originally Posted By onealphay2k: Op, which top rail did you purchase for your gun? I looked on DSA’s site and they have quite a few different ones available. @onealphay2k When I bought my pistol I got a different model from Atlantic Arms that came with the rail cover: https://atlanticfirearms.com/sa58-fal-tactical-pistol DSA Arms does sell a Para Railed top cover, that is most likely what you would need. To be sure though I’d call their customer service and ask which one exactly since there are a couple different ones. Here is a link to one of them that I think should work to replace the non railed cover that comes with the pistol in the original post: https://www.dsarms.com/p-12544-dsa-fal-sa58-extreme-duty-para-scope-mount-standard-length-model-includes-hardware.aspx |
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Originally Posted By Princeton: @onealphay2k When I bought my pistol I got a different model from Atlantic Arms that came with the rail cover: https://atlanticfirearms.com/sa58-fal-tactical-pistol DSA Arms does sell a Para Railed top cover, that is most likely what you would need. To be sure though I’d call their customer service and ask which one exactly since there are a couple different ones. Here is a link to one of them that I think should work to replace the non railed cover that comes with the pistol in the original post: https://www.dsarms.com/p-12544-dsa-fal-sa58-extreme-duty-para-scope-mount-standard-length-model-includes-hardware.aspx Originally Posted By Princeton: Originally Posted By onealphay2k: Op, which top rail did you purchase for your gun? I looked on DSA’s site and they have quite a few different ones available. @onealphay2k When I bought my pistol I got a different model from Atlantic Arms that came with the rail cover: https://atlanticfirearms.com/sa58-fal-tactical-pistol DSA Arms does sell a Para Railed top cover, that is most likely what you would need. To be sure though I’d call their customer service and ask which one exactly since there are a couple different ones. Here is a link to one of them that I think should work to replace the non railed cover that comes with the pistol in the original post: https://www.dsarms.com/p-12544-dsa-fal-sa58-extreme-duty-para-scope-mount-standard-length-model-includes-hardware.aspx Thank you. Mine should be here tomorrow, so thanks again for the heads up. Another question. Is it possible to use the existing lower receiver and add the Para stock once the form 1 comes through, or do you need to replace it by buying one with the Para Kit? I was also looking at another option from StormWerkz which allows you to use any 1913 stock, but I think I read that the lower receiver on the pistol is different from a standard one. |
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Originally Posted By onealphay2k: Thank you. Mine should be here tomorrow, so thanks again for the heads up. Another question. Is it possible to use the existing lower receiver and add the Para stock once the form 1 comes through, or do you need to replace it by buying one with the Para Kit? I was also looking at another option from StormWerkz which allows you to use any 1913 stock, but I think I read that the lower receiver on the pistol is different from a standard one. Originally Posted By onealphay2k: Originally Posted By Princeton: Originally Posted By onealphay2k: Op, which top rail did you purchase for your gun? I looked on DSA’s site and they have quite a few different ones available. @onealphay2k When I bought my pistol I got a different model from Atlantic Arms that came with the rail cover: https://atlanticfirearms.com/sa58-fal-tactical-pistol DSA Arms does sell a Para Railed top cover, that is most likely what you would need. To be sure though I’d call their customer service and ask which one exactly since there are a couple different ones. Here is a link to one of them that I think should work to replace the non railed cover that comes with the pistol in the original post: https://www.dsarms.com/p-12544-dsa-fal-sa58-extreme-duty-para-scope-mount-standard-length-model-includes-hardware.aspx Thank you. Mine should be here tomorrow, so thanks again for the heads up. Another question. Is it possible to use the existing lower receiver and add the Para stock once the form 1 comes through, or do you need to replace it by buying one with the Para Kit? I was also looking at another option from StormWerkz which allows you to use any 1913 stock, but I think I read that the lower receiver on the pistol is different from a standard one. The pistol lower is different. I created a prototype 1913 rear adapter for the pistol lower, will be ready soon: Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By DocGP: That was the first thing that came to my mind also!! Doc Originally Posted By DocGP: Originally Posted By tooldforthis: funny how times change years ago the DSA FAL was considered a copy Like saying a "real fake Rolex" Now...... That was the first thing that came to my mind also!! Doc That’s why when I made this post I specifically said “Real DSA FAL” I know not everyone thinks DSA guns are true traditional FAL’s. I think the FAL is the only gun where people would rather have a parts kit built on a quality receiver instead of a factory built gun. Maybe AK’s too I guess. |
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Originally Posted By Princeton: That’s why when I made this post I specifically said “Real DSA FAL” I know not everyone thinks DSA guns are true traditional FAL’s. I think the FAL is the only gun where people would rather have a parts kit built on a quality receiver instead of a factory built gun. Maybe AK’s too I guess. depends which factory made them FN seems pretty good at it, not heard a lot of complaints on what they made |
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Originally Posted By ERNURSE: Hirtenberger is the best hands down. its worth the price GGG is the best surplus I've ever run through my rifles. Hirtenberger is indeed good. |
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Updated price 09/13/2024 Incredibly- $899 Tempted to buy a 2nd one at that price!!! https://www.dsarms.com/p-17540-ds-arms-sa58-fal-primary-pistol-825-barrel-762x51mm.aspx |
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Got mine last night, crazy little pistol. Trigger is insanely bad gives me a project to work on. Thanks to Yamaha Warrior… great adapter, should be a fun toy with a brace. |
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Originally Posted By sdc360: Got mine last night, crazy little pistol. Trigger is insanely bad gives me a project to work on. Thanks to Yamaha Warrior… great adapter, should be a fun toy with a brace. Can any FAL trigger be as bad as an HK91 trigger? |
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Took the pistol out yesterday. What a blast! Ran 80 flawless rounds down range. True to aim. Recoil was very manageable. Handguards started to warm up a little, after 40 relatively successive rounds. Bottom line, happy with the purchase. Great value. Will switch out pistol grip to the SAW type. Will also be installing a pistol brace. Agreed, the trigger leaves something to be desired...  |
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Originally Posted By Dirty_Robster: Whats the best way to convert one of these to a sbr? The para kit only way to go about it? DSA sells a pic rail end specifically for these. It was like $50 shipped. https://www.dsarms.com/p-17575-dsa-picatinny-end-cap-for-fal-sa58-pistol-lower-trigger-frame.aspx |
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Originally Posted By tortilla-flats: I'm literally just becoming aware of this and the entire idea of a pistol 308. Is there a round that has good terminal ballistics out of an 8" barrel? With mine, 168gr fgmm is 1900fps. My handloads I went up to 2050fps with 168gr. Federal 130gr varmint was 2200fps, this bullet is the Speer 130gr HP and expands well at 300blk velocities. Have not tried any 110gr loads yet. I loaded some up but haven't Chrono'd them yet. They are 52gr of ramshot xterminator using a 110gr ttsx. I'm gonna guess around somewhere around 2400fps. Most bullets will expand around 1800fps for ballistic tips, hollow points, etc. according to most manufacturers. So 250 yards for the 110gr Barnes, 200 yards for 130gr Speer HP, heavier rounds will be shorter. |
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