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I love the fact that "we" are able to innovate and come up with interesting designs that follow the law. I hate the fact that it is necessary to do so, because of the "law." I honestly might have to buy one just to support that company. |
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Originally Posted By jim:
If one wants a sure fire 50 state legal 223 look for the Remington 7615 Police, pump action with an AR mag well. NO! Now that you have an ARES lower, go to a free state and get some 30's or 40's and hide them well for when you/we need them. Remember, on the first day of the revolution you may not have a machine gun but you may on the second. 
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Originally Posted By coldblue:
Original 16" barrel (chrome lined) and URX 3.1 free-float barrel handguard: <a href="http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/D_A_Lutz/media/SCR%20Phase%201a_zps30mbn6db.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q759/D_A_Lutz/SCR%20Phase%201a_zps30mbn6db.jpg</a> Originally Posted By coldblue:
Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
I think it would look better with a rifle handguard and 18 or 20" barrel. Original 16" barrel (chrome lined) and URX 3.1 free-float barrel handguard: <a href="http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/D_A_Lutz/media/SCR%20Phase%201a_zps30mbn6db.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q759/D_A_Lutz/SCR%20Phase%201a_zps30mbn6db.jpg</a> I'd like to see this offered with a side charging handle instead of the standard style and no forward assist. And maybe top it with a nice 1-4 or 1-6 illuminated scope or an Aimpoint PRO. |
| Someone I know is terribly interested in it if it has a good trigger. He points out that a hunting rifle spends most of its time being carried, rather than being shot, and there's no downside other than missing a shot if you don't immediately bring your hunting rifle into action. Hunting stocks carry well, as opposed to the AR - which is designed to come on point quickly, not to be comfortable to carry around all day. |
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Originally Posted By jim:
If one wants a sure fire 50 state legal 223 look for the Remington 7615 Police, pump action with an AR mag well. Actually, this rifle is banned by name in the CT AWB list (the only non-semi auto to be banned). Either the Bloomberg people who wrote the CT AWB mistook it for a semi-auto, or they just thought a pump action with an AR-15 magazine was too deadly for the peasants. The CT AWB is pretty draconian. Not only is there a list of firearms you had to register (for eventual confiscation), and could no longer buy, there are a whole bunch of restrictions on where you can have/transport/use "AWs". Not only does this rifle give you much of the functionality of an AR15, it allows you to transport it as a regular rifle, and avoid the CT AWB restrictions (Fuck you Governor Dan Malloy, and every Democrat who ever drew breath). And in all honesty, the fact that the recoil spring is in the stock actually violates the AWB (any part of the "action" above the fingers). But, for whatever reason, they are allowing it to be sold in CT. Guess it looks Fudd enough for them. You VA boys better take a good look. The progressive cancer is spreading out of NOVA, and you will be as screwed as CT is, given a few years. |
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I'm not sure what to make of ares armor. After the whole atf raid I wanted to support the company. Bought a few bcgs and spread the word around locally, nice products. But after the whole ousting of the founder of the company and the total cooperation with the Feds by the new ceo. I'm not sure if I want to give them any more money. Maybe they developed this to handjob the atf into letting them stay open. Did they ever turn over all the names of the 80% lower customers or not?
On a side note of the design, for me, with a horn grip an ambi charging handle may finally be useful |
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Originally Posted By Krashdog: I'm not sure what to make of ares armor. After the whole atf raid I wanted to support the company. Bought a few bcgs and spread the word around locally, nice products. But after the whole ousting of the founder of the company and the total cooperation with the Feds by the new ceo. I'm not sure if I want to give them any more money. Maybe they developed this to handjob the atf into letting them stay open. Did they ever turn over all the names of the 80% lower customers or not?
On a side note of the design, for me, with a horn grip an ambi charging handle may finally be useful Two different Ares. Ares Armor was selling the EP Armory 80% lowers, knowing EP Armory never got an ATF Tech Branch Letter, and got raided. Ares Armor is in California. Ares Defense makes the SCR, and the MCR belt fed upper, and apparently screwed over a bunch of NYers who put deposits down on the belt fed uppers before they were built, and supposedly won't refund the deposits, but won't ship to NY claiming the SAFE Act won't let them. Ares Defense is in Florida. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher:
Two different Ares. Ares Armor was selling the EP Armory 80% lowers, knowing EP Armory never got an ATF Tech Branch Letter, and got raided. Ares Armor is in California. Ares Defense makes the SCR, and the MCR belt fed upper, and apparently screwed over a bunch of NYers who put deposits down on the belt fed uppers before they were built, and supposedly won't refund the deposits, but won't ship to NY claiming the SAFE Act won't let them. Ares Defense is in Florida. Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By Krashdog: I'm not sure what to make of ares armor. After the whole atf raid I wanted to support the company. Bought a few bcgs and spread the word around locally, nice products. But after the whole ousting of the founder of the company and the total cooperation with the Feds by the new ceo. I'm not sure if I want to give them any more money. Maybe they developed this to handjob the atf into letting them stay open. Did they ever turn over all the names of the 80% lower customers or not?
On a side note of the design, for me, with a horn grip an ambi charging handle may finally be useful Two different Ares. Ares Armor was selling the EP Armory 80% lowers, knowing EP Armory never got an ATF Tech Branch Letter, and got raided. Ares Armor is in California. Ares Defense makes the SCR, and the MCR belt fed upper, and apparently screwed over a bunch of NYers who put deposits down on the belt fed uppers before they were built, and supposedly won't refund the deposits, but won't ship to NY claiming the SAFE Act won't let them. Ares Defense is in Florida. Thank you for the clarification, I totally thought they were one in the same |
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Originally Posted By Krashdog:
Thank you for the clarification, I totally thought they were one in the same Originally Posted By Krashdog:
Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By Krashdog: I'm not sure what to make of ares armor. After the whole atf raid I wanted to support the company. Bought a few bcgs and spread the word around locally, nice products. But after the whole ousting of the founder of the company and the total cooperation with the Feds by the new ceo. I'm not sure if I want to give them any more money. Maybe they developed this to handjob the atf into letting them stay open. Did they ever turn over all the names of the 80% lower customers or not?
On a side note of the design, for me, with a horn grip an ambi charging handle may finally be useful Two different Ares. Ares Armor was selling the EP Armory 80% lowers, knowing EP Armory never got an ATF Tech Branch Letter, and got raided. Ares Armor is in California. Ares Defense makes the SCR, and the MCR belt fed upper, and apparently screwed over a bunch of NYers who put deposits down on the belt fed uppers before they were built, and supposedly won't refund the deposits, but won't ship to NY claiming the SAFE Act won't let them. Ares Defense is in Florida. Thank you for the clarification, I totally thought they were one in the same The etymology of the name Ares is traditionally connected with the Greek word (are), the Ionic form of the Doric (ara), "bane, ruin, curse, imprecation". |
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Originally Posted By coldblue: Just an update showing the second upper I put together with a 20-inch match stainless Krieger barrel, KAC URX rail forend, LaRue SPR scope mount, KAC back-up iron sights, and my own handguard panel mods:
Needed the cheek piece to line up with the higher scope mounting. <a href="http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/D_A_Lutz/media/20-inch%20heavy%20barrel_zpsnb1oym9e.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q759/D_A_Lutz/20-inch%20heavy%20barrel_zpsnb1oym9e.jpg</a> Sir - why not use lower rings? Any thought to using an 1100 wood stock? |
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Originally Posted By backbencher:
Sir - why not use lower rings? Any thought to using an 1100 wood stock? Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By coldblue: Just an update showing the second upper I put together with a 20-inch match stainless Krieger barrel, KAC URX rail forend, LaRue SPR scope mount, KAC back-up iron sights, and my own handguard panel mods:
Needed the cheek piece to line up with the higher scope mounting. <a href="http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/D_A_Lutz/media/20-inch%20heavy%20barrel_zpsnb1oym9e.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q759/D_A_Lutz/20-inch%20heavy%20barrel_zpsnb1oym9e.jpg</a> Sir - why not use lower rings? Any thought to using an 1100 wood stock? Could have mounted it lower, but that would have cost me another mount or set of rings. As it was, the scope and the LaRue SPR mount were on another AR, and of course the scope was at the perfect height above bore for that lower. yes, I am going to do a second Ares SCR and will op for a wooden Remington 1100 stock, or the optional monte carlo for that one just to be a little different....might even try some sort of wooden forend as well. I think the SCR lower has lots of potential for AR owners with redundant standard AR lowers like me getting bored with more of the same thing. That's why several years ago I cobbled together the buttstock pictured below. Just got tired with a bunch of rifles with the same old black plastic stock. |
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Originally Posted By coldblue: Walnut is their latest option...like?
<a href="http://s258.photobucket.com/user/ColdBlue_2008/media/SCR%20Walnut.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh249/ColdBlue_2008/SCR%20Walnut.jpg</a> Very much. They need to make an internally steel-reinforced wooden lower/stock. |
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Originally Posted By coldblue: Original 16" barrel (chrome lined) and URX 3.1 free-float barrel handguard: http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q759/D_A_Lutz/SCR%20Phase%201a_zps30mbn6db.jpg Originally Posted By coldblue: Originally Posted By jaqufrost: I think it would look better with a rifle handguard and 18 or 20" barrel. Original 16" barrel (chrome lined) and URX 3.1 free-float barrel handguard: http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q759/D_A_Lutz/SCR%20Phase%201a_zps30mbn6db.jpg |
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Originally Posted By coldblue:
Just an update showing the second upper I put together with a 20-inch match stainless Krieger barrel, KAC URX rail forend, LaRue SPR scope mount, KAC back-up iron sights, and my own handguard panel mods: Needed the cheek piece to line up with the higher scope mounting. <a href="http://s1357.photobucket.com/user/D_A_Lutz/media/20-inch%20heavy%20barrel_zpsnb1oym9e.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q759/D_A_Lutz/20-inch%20heavy%20barrel_zpsnb1oym9e.jpg</a> That right there made me want one. And I already have a Mk12 and an SR25! |
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Originally Posted By coldblue:
Some updated photos of my two uppers... <a href="http://s258.photobucket.com/user/ColdBlue_2008/media/2016%20photos/SCR%2020%20Inch%203D.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh249/ColdBlue_2008/2016%20photos/SCR%2020%20Inch%203D.jpg</a> Things that go real KA-BOOM! Outstanding! 
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