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3/14/2009 10:03:26 PM EDT
[#1]
The Kifaru Express is supposed to be small enough to take on a plane and I think the RAID is significantly smaller than that.
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3/15/2009 1:46:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ridewaves][Edited] [#2]
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
It would be nice if the RAID was available in other colors.

Does anyone have a list of which packs will fit under an airline seat?


I've traveled with a RAID, Cobra and Motherlode.  They all fit under the seat.  Check out Tactical Assault Gear's RAID pack... they carry the range of colors.

Note on the RAID packs... the TAG version differs slightly from the ATS/Eagle packs.  

The TAG model omits the top straps/fastex buckles that connect the shoulder straps to the main flap of the pack (going over the top).

The TAG model employs cordura instead of mesh for the interior pockets.

The TAG model comes with a Source hydration bladder. It also has an extra zipper opening by the top carrying handle to access the hydration sleeve.

The TAG model has 2 metal rod inserts instead of a frame insert.

TAG uses a shorter, but longer rectangle shaped velcro panel whereas Eagle/ATS has a taller more squareish(but not quite) panel.

The PALS webbing is set up differently...  Eagle/ATS has an odd number of columns stiched in(i think its 7 on the main panel)... so if you wanted to attach a pouch with 2 attachment points/malice clips right next to each other(like a mag pouch), it would be one row off center.  The TAG version has an even number... 6 or 8... I cant recall off the top of my head.  This can affect your setup depending on which pouches you want to use.

I've had maybe 5 different RAIDS... including the original Eagles... all are excellent, but I prefer the TAG version.  I've actually found that the ATS Cobra fills my needs the best.  Its big enough but not too big that its too bulky or that you end up filling it with too many things.  
...and how can man die better, than facing fearful odds; for the ashes of his fathers and the temples of his gods?
SGT Steven Checo
OEF 21 DEC 02
3/15/2009 4:28:23 PM EDT
[#3]
I see ATS has some RAIDs for like $100. Are those defects or seconds? They normally run twice that much.
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3/16/2009 9:33:47 PM EDT
[#4]
They're fine. I just got mine in this week. I think it was the coloring was a little off. They're not defective in any way. And a really good price right now....
The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental. -John Steinbeck
4/16/2009 7:30:00 PM EDT
[#5]





Did anyone end up picking one of these up?

I love my CB Talon but I still wonder if this pack wouldn't be a major upgrade, especially if you don't beat on a bag so much that any quality difference wouldn't be noticed?

The Talon is a great bag. I use mine everyday and it's never failed. A few shortcomings I've noticed:

Could use either more internal organizing pockets or internal MOLLE straps to add your own pockets. I don't know how common this is but it'd be the bomb.



 
"Does the Pope shit in the woods?"
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1/27/2011 1:24:37 PM EDT
[#6]
Bump for interest.
10/14/2011 4:47:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 59Bassman][Edited] [#7]
Any interesting new packs out there?  I'm looking at putting together a small (~2000 - 2500 in^2) general-use backpack with MOLLE capability if possible.  Solid green (ranger, OD, foliage), not black or camo for sure.
10/22/2011 1:15:52 PM EDT
[#8]
Originally Posted By qualityhardware:
Anyone tried out the packs from Mystery Ranch?


I just got this:







The framed back is very nice.

10/28/2011 10:42:01 PM EDT
[#9]
Kifaru G1 Marauder and Eagle AIII


Mystery Ranch Sweet Pea and Marauder


Sweet Pea and AIII
4/5/2012 1:56:36 AM EDT
[#10]
Any opinions or experience with the 5.11 RUSH 72?

http://www.511tactical.com/All-Products/Bags-Backpacks/Backpacks/RUSH-72-Backpack.html


4/5/2012 3:19:28 AM EDT
[#11]
I have a 24. Well made and thought out design if you like lots of organization. Never seen the 72 in person
John Willis OSOE http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_109/929579_John_Willis__OSOE.html
4/12/2012 11:34:24 AM EDT
[#12]
I have a Tac OD Rush 72 that Ive been dragging around Afghanistan for the last 10 months and you can barely tell its been used. Granted its around a FOB and on Helo's etc, not ground pounding. But IMO its a sturdy pack, well worth the money.
4/13/2012 12:57:15 AM EDT
[#13]
happy with my camelbak.. 3 day...
4/14/2012 10:25:25 PM EDT
[#14]
I came here looking for a bag I could use as a range bag, this thread is useless none of the links work and everything is old.
4/14/2012 10:26:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Aimless][Edited] [#15]







Originally Posted By Tango_6:




I came here looking for a bag I could use as a range bag, this thread is useless none of the links work and everything is old.




Good point. I will take care of this









how much you looking to spend?







for just a pack to take to the range the Eagle A3 packs from Natchezz are a great deal. There are two kinds, one is the regular size with molle loops, the other is a "long" bag that is a little taller. Might be easier to fit stuff like spotting scopes in the long. They run about  $ 80




This is a great pack for $ 60 http://store.tssi-ops.com/p-988-patriot-small-assault-pack.aspx but kind of short for a range pack.


 
John Willis OSOE http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_109/929579_John_Willis__OSOE.html
4/14/2012 10:44:10 PM EDT
[#16]
Tag



Aimless let me know if you need help fixing this thread.


 
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-Natty_Bumppo
4/15/2012 3:26:18 AM EDT
[#17]



Originally Posted By bcauz3y:


Tag



Aimless let me know if you need help fixing this thread.

 


I would be glad for help. I don't know if the thread can be fixed or if we should start over

 
John Willis OSOE http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_109/929579_John_Willis__OSOE.html
4/15/2012 5:19:19 AM EDT
[#18]
Used to have a real nice tactical gear thread that had all these things cataloged by type of gear and a link to the review. Think you banned that OP bout a year or so ago because he wasn't disclosing some financial affiliation he had with a dealer. Not sure but his name aint around anymore. But the idea of a kind of "gear locker" thread would be awesome
ibreakthings
Quite possibly the best thread ever: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1268335_Three_percenters.html&page=2
4/15/2012 8:24:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Aimless][Edited] [#19]
Might be easiest to do one thread with just one post per pack, then a link to a separate thread about that pack, otherwise the pack descriptions get broken up with pages of discussion. I have a ridiculously large number of packs I have picked up over the years. I have to admit photographing them all sounds like a bit of a pain



We should probably have a format like

pack purchased: date

price paid:

use of pack: ie military, police, hiking, commuting, hunting etc



John Willis OSOE http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_109/929579_John_Willis__OSOE.html
4/16/2012 8:54:35 PM EDT
[#20]




Originally Posted By Aimless:

Might be easiest to do one thread with just one post per pack, then a link to a separate thread about that pack, otherwise the pack descriptions get broken up with pages of discussion. I have a ridiculously large number of packs I have picked up over the years. I have to admit photographing them all sounds like a bit of a pain





We should probably have a format like


pack purchased: date


price paid:


use of pack: ie military, police, hiking, commuting, hunting etc








And this will start when?  great idea
4/17/2012 10:17:04 AM EDT
[#21]
Have the 5.11 72hr rush and like it a lot. Now just normal civilian use and traveling. Going to add a Moab 10 to it. Also have one of  lapolicegears 3 day packs in od and it's ok but for $30 can't be beat in my opinion.
4/17/2012 10:27:52 AM EDT
[#22]



Originally Posted By Aimless:


Might be easiest to do one thread with just one post per pack, then a link to a separate thread about that pack, otherwise the pack descriptions get broken up with pages of discussion. I have a ridiculously large number of packs I have picked up over the years. I have to admit photographing them all sounds like a bit of a pain



We should probably have a format like

pack purchased: date

price paid:

use of pack: ie military, police, hiking, commuting, hunting etc





I agree.



Might want to include some pros/cons in there too, so someone can easily make a decision at a glance.



We might also considering further defining what a 3 day pack is.





 
...I do understand that it is the profession that all others are expert save the people actually embroiled in it.
-Natty_Bumppo
4/17/2012 10:35:36 AM EDT
[#23]
I'd just include any military type pack. The larger military packs and Kifaru, granite gear etc aren't really assault/three day packs but we can include them.
John Willis OSOE http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_109/929579_John_Willis__OSOE.html
4/17/2012 8:11:12 PM EDT
[#24]
Originally Posted By Aimless:
I'd just include any military type pack. The larger military packs and Kifaru, granite gear etc aren't really assault/three day packs but we can include them.


Look how about you guys start with the standard issue mil pack. And than work from there. Up through the ranks so to speak. Eventually getting to the OMFG thats an expensive pack!!  And oh ya define what a  3 day pack actually is. And maybe briefly covering what you would normally carry in one. Or of course you could just tell me to STFU
4/17/2012 8:17:37 PM EDT
[#25]



Originally Posted By Aimless:


I'd just include any military type pack. The larger military packs and Kifaru, granite gear etc aren't really assault/three day packs but we can include them.


sounds good to me.
 
...I do understand that it is the profession that all others are expert save the people actually embroiled in it.
-Natty_Bumppo
4/19/2012 1:11:54 AM EDT
[#26]
I recently acquired a TAG Sniper Bag - http://www.tacticalassaultgearstore.com/sniperpack.aspx . I haven't had time to set it up yet. I do love the amount of webbing inside and out it has. Plenty spacious too. I've never set up a bag like this before. I don't even know where to start. Mainly have it for patrol/bob/backpacking. Do any of you keep things like MREs, sleeping bags, and tents, other extended stay items in there packs? or is that over kill?

I wanna use the first smaller pocket for soft goods (every day clothing). And the second pocket for accessories (extra mags, med gear, tools and gun tools, rope, etc.)
4/19/2012 8:17:18 PM EDT
[#27]
Originally Posted By Elements223:
I recently acquired a TAG Sniper Bag - http://www.tacticalassaultgearstore.com/sniperpack.aspx . I haven't had time to set it up yet. I do love the amount of webbing inside and out it has. Plenty spacious too. I've never set up a bag like this before. I don't even know where to start. Mainly have it for patrol/bob/backpacking. Do any of you keep things like MREs, sleeping bags, and tents, other extended stay items in there packs? or is that over kill?

I wanna use the first smaller pocket for soft goods (every day clothing). And the second pocket for accessories (extra mags, med gear, tools and gun tools, rope, etc.)


Dear god! 280.00?
4/19/2012 8:47:51 PM EDT
[#28]
I found it for cheaper online. I paid $200. Figured it was $20 more than the ATS Raid pack, and was bigger so I got it.
12/30/2012 5:35:33 PM EDT
[#29]
I've been looking for this type of thread for days, glad I finally found it before posting something in the survival forum.  I'm looking for a pack to use as my first BOB; lots of info in the survival forum about what should go in one, but not a lot on the packs themselves.

I've been looking at a few:

5.11 RUSH 72
TAG Sentinel or Sniper
Voodoo Tobago
Condor Large Assault Pack

TAG and 5.11 seem to have good reputations, not sure about Voodoo or Condor.  They are definitely cheaper - not sure if that correlates to quality or if it's overseas manufacturing that gets the price down.  Looking for any opinions on those, or others to consider.

Is there a general rule of thumb as far as capacity goes?  I read in another thread if the bag is over 3000 (or maybe 3500) cu. in., you should really have some sort of framing - is that accurate?

Thanks,
Tom
8/24/2013 1:01:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dasboots][Edited] [#30]
Good read.  Lots of information since I am also in the market fo a back pack.  Newbie.  Late comer. Thanks.
8/26/2013 12:20:46 AM EDT
[#31]
So I take it the AIII packs are never going to see production again?
7/23/2015 1:12:28 PM EDT
[#32]
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So I take it the AIII packs are never going to see production again?
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I've been wondering about this myself. The Blackhawk produced bags appear to be in production, or at least in stock many places. I'd like an Eagle AIII in multicam with molle but I'm having a hell of a time finding one.
2/29/2016 3:57:23 PM EDT
[#33]
anyone have any experience with the direct action dust pack?

I saw them on amazon, I wanna turn it into a EDC pack.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VL8BIR4/ref=s9_simh_gw_g200_i2_r?ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=1TPPVV0EHKYQPVQ4ECYW&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2079475242&pf_rd_i=desktop
"All that matters is that she is wet and roaring to go and you do your part as a Patriotic American and pound that pussy like the Marines pounded Iwo Jima. " - Miami_JBT
2/29/2016 4:51:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AJ66TEXAS][Edited] [#34]
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Originally Posted By Tohbii:
anyone have any experience with the direct action dust pack?

I saw them on amazon, I wanna turn it into a EDC pack.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VL8BIR4/ref=s9_simh_gw_g200_i2_r?ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=1TPPVV0EHKYQPVQ4ECYW&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2079475242&pf_rd_i=desktop
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It's a great bag, it's just big enough to carry what I need. I was between the Dust and one of the many versions of Tactical Tailor's Removable Operator Pack. I ended up rolling the dice because the Dust was just a tiny bit wider and this able to hold my ballistic panel (rectangular black thing) and it has much better organization. It's been about a year and I've abused the hell out of it and the workmanship is outstanding. Last pic has money for an idea for how compact of a pack it really is











2/29/2016 7:12:52 PM EDT
[#35]
I saw those on Amazon they're from Poland?
2/29/2016 7:43:55 PM EDT
[#36]
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I saw those on Amazon they're from Poland?
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im not sure where theyre from, apparently the company is relatively new but its getting great reviews from every resource
"All that matters is that she is wet and roaring to go and you do your part as a Patriotic American and pound that pussy like the Marines pounded Iwo Jima. " - Miami_JBT
2/29/2016 7:56:24 PM EDT
[#37]

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im not sure where theyre from, apparently the company is relatively new but its getting great reviews from every resource

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Originally Posted By Aimless:

I saw those on Amazon they're from Poland?






im not sure where theyre from, apparently the company is relatively new but its getting great reviews from every resource

Somewhere in Eastern Europe
Packs look okay.
3/1/2016 2:05:13 PM EDT
[#38]
Holy thread recovery batman! I had no Idea this thread existed...good thread.

Aimless, did that "gear locker" thread ever get started like you and another poster discussed on page 13?
3/1/2016 4:34:07 PM EDT
[#39]
So hopefully this is not too far off topic, what makes an assault pack 3-day vs 1-day?  I see them listed as both, my ATS Cobra is listed as a 1-day.  Works great as a laptop bag, though.
3/1/2016 9:47:05 PM EDT
[#40]
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So hopefully this is not too far off topic, what makes an assault pack 3-day vs 1-day?  I see them listed as both, my ATS Cobra is listed as a 1-day.  Works great as a laptop bag, though.
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size generally, but im not sure where you draw the line between pack sizes
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3/2/2016 9:25:42 AM EDT
[#41]
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Somewhere in Eastern Europe Packs look okay.
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Originally Posted By Tohbii:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
I saw those on Amazon they're from Poland?



im not sure where theyre from, apparently the company is relatively new but its getting great reviews from every resource
Somewhere in Eastern Europe Packs look okay.


They're a Polish outfit, an upscale off-shoot of a company called Helikon-Tex.
3/3/2016 9:42:01 AM EDT
[#42]
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Originally Posted By oversteer:
So hopefully this is not too far off topic, what makes an assault pack 3-day vs 1-day?  I see them listed as both, my ATS Cobra is listed as a 1-day.  Works great as a laptop bag, though.
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The ability to carry 3 days worth of gear. So, size.
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10/3/2016 11:15:09 PM EDT
[#43]





My LBT pack, with a magazine pouch by LBT, and a utility pouch by Grey Ghost Gear.






7/7/2021 9:47:18 PM EDT
[#44]
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Originally Posted By AJ66TEXAS:



It's a great bag, it's just big enough to carry what I need. I was between the Dust and one of the many versions of Tactical Tailor's Removable Operator Pack. I ended up rolling the dice because the Dust was just a tiny bit wider and this able to hold my ballistic panel (rectangular black thing) and it has much better organization. It's been about a year and I've abused the hell out of it and the workmanship is outstanding. Last pic has money for an idea for how compact of a pack it really is

http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t374/aj077texas/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0373_zpsh0pyiuiq.jpg

http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t374/aj077texas/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0391_zpsahcq6ehq.jpg

http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t374/aj077texas/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0382_zpsdcxdoyf3.jpg





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I saw this one and almost went for the bigger one, the Ghost. Any feedback on that one?
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2/14/2023 8:40:44 AM EDT
[#45]
its been a few years - bump for some newer packs
5/29/2023 8:35:22 PM EDT
[#46]
Bump
3/9/2026 7:10:15 PM EDT
[#47]
3 year bump
4/25/2026 8:33:02 PM EDT
[#48]
Just got my 3-day assault pack back from Mystery Ranch.  Issued in 2012 on deployment, and back in January I finally sent it in for a zipper repair.  They replaced the y-zipper for the main compartment and the two zippers on the top portion, all under warranty (even though I never bought the thing myself) and even included new nylon webbing straps and buckles.

There was a decent wait as they're prioritizing backcountry firefighters' gear (as well they should be) but I didn't need it for anything so I wasn't worried.

I also have a NICE frame with both Crew Cab and Wolf Alpha (with a couple Pups that I use as ammo totes for the range now ) and those have been excellent (though used far less, so understandably not suffering any zipper or other wear issues at all).

It isn't cheap, but the fact they'll replace the zippers almost 15 years on is pretty impressive.

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