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4/27/2026 6:36:05 PM EDT
Anyone else had this happen? Just did a big batch of F1's 2 months ago. All came back approved but one - The charger I am building for my wife. Wanted to put a charger in a youth stock for her tiny child sized ass.

Submitted form 1

Maker - Sturm Ruger
model  - 22 Charger
Serial is correct
Barrel length is correct.

Form 1 was rejected and it says to put the model on the form exactly as it is on the "weapon". Well, big ass letters on the side of the receiver - 22 CHARGER.

Not sure WTF else they want.

Any suggestions?
4/27/2026 6:44:15 PM EDT
[#1]
Resubmit and send a photo.

I’ve had 3 like that.

Waiting on them…again.

Frustrating as hell.
"F*ck it I'm done. Nothing to say other than I'm done giving a f*ck." - xerxes2695 - 1-6-2021 - 1849hrs.

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4/27/2026 6:48:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cryo_tech][Edited] [#2]
Well theres now this whole va ubiqitous deadline on Jul 1 now. Should I call them or is that useless?
4/27/2026 6:53:42 PM EDT
[#3]
I have never called.

Not even sure where to begin on that.

I get you on the Va issues.

Trying to beat them myself.
"F*ck it I'm done. Nothing to say other than I'm done giving a f*ck." - xerxes2695 - 1-6-2021 - 1849hrs.

“If you live here and your allegiance is to another nation, you are an enemy.” - C10 - 6-7-25 - 1816hrs
4/27/2026 6:56:40 PM EDT
[#4]
Yes.

Resubmit and send a photo.


Now with more political fatigue.
4/27/2026 6:59:54 PM EDT
[#5]
There's been a lot of denials posted on ARFCOM lately.

The likely causes are:
1) New, inexperienced form submitters
2) New, inexperienced form reviewers
3) A mixture of 1 and 2.



4/27/2026 7:00:11 PM EDT
[#6]
Just did it along with the Kuna I got back today - rejected. "wrong maker" well it says fucking springfield on the side.

did it this time with pics and HS Produkt.

added pics for both for those who can't read. Guess we will find out if F1's post July 1 get denied in va, because no way this shit gets done in 60 days at the pace they were moving at. These were closer to 70.
4/27/2026 7:01:47 PM EDT
[#7]
Resubmit with photos.

Calling/emailing no longer works like it once did.
4/27/2026 7:03:42 PM EDT
[#8]
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Originally Posted By Mike_Golf:
There's been a lot of denials posted on ARFCOM lately.

The likely causes are:
1) New, inexperienced form submitters
2) New, inexperienced form reviewers
3) A mixture of 1 and 2.



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I've never had a f1 rejected until this batch. I'd say this was 2 because I did that charger form perfectly. And I had about a dozen in that batch that came back right.
I'm not sure what the hell they go on up there. How do they even know it does or doesnt say 22 charger on the side.
4/27/2026 7:56:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cryo_tech:
Well theres now this whole va ubiqitous deadline on Jul 1 now. Should I call them or is that useless?
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If it makes you feel any better, ATF will still approve Virginia Form 1s for rimfire after 01 July.
4/27/2026 10:39:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cryo_tech:
Well theres now this whole va ubiqitous deadline on Jul 1 now. Should I call them or is that useless?
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Calling won't do any good now that you have been denied.


If the ATF is going to stop allowing SBR's in VA, you are too late.   The law goes into effect on 1 July 2026, that's 65 days from now.

According to the Megathread for reporting wait times on the r/NFA reddit current wait time is 62 days.   And it has been going up about 1 day per week for quite a while now.  So by the time 62 days elapse the wait will have gone up 8 more days making the expected wait 70 days.


But the good news is that VA's assault weapons ban is only on Centerfire firearms, not Rimfire.   So your 10-22 won't be banned in July of this year.
4/27/2026 10:41:43 PM EDT
[#11]
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Originally Posted By cryo_tech:
Just did it along with the Kuna I got back today - rejected. "wrong maker" well it says fucking springfield on the side.

did it this time with pics and HS Produkt.

added pics for both for those who can't read. Guess we will find out if F1's post July 1 get denied in va, because no way this shit gets done in 60 days at the pace they were moving at. These were closer to 70.
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Springfield isn't the manufacturer of the Kuna, they are the importer (which should also be allowed but for some reason ATF hasn't been accepting that).   Manufacturer should be HS Produkt.
4/27/2026 10:42:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By costanza:


If it makes you feel any better, ATF will still approve Virginia Form 1s for rimfire after 01 July.
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Has anyone seen anything definitive on Form 1s after 7/1?  Lots of confusion on this, especially on Reditard.  

Lots of arguments/ considerations on allowing them to be approved:
- Making vs manufacturering.
- slapping a lower and upper together is not manufacturering.
- tossing a stock on a PCC is not either.  
- PCC and AR would be considered AW in pistol form already come 7/1, so you are not changing that.
- using AR lower for non-semi auto.
- DOJ wanting to sue VA on AWB.  ATF part of DOJ.  
- Dems wet dream is getting guns registered.
4/27/2026 10:57:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cryo_tech][Edited] [#13]
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Originally Posted By triode:


Has anyone seen anything definitive on Form 1s after 7/1?  Lots of confusion on this, especially on Reditard.  

Lots of arguments/ considerations on allowing them to be approved:
- Making vs manufacturering.
- slapping a lower and upper together is not manufacturering.
- tossing a stock on a PCC is not either.  
- PCC and AR would be considered AW in pistol form already come 7/1, so you are not changing that.
- using AR lower for non-semi auto.
- DOJ wanting to sue VA on AWB.  ATF part of DOJ.  
- Dems wet dream is getting guns registered.
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No. And I just did the 10/22, redid the kuna (pistol is fine IDC but would be nice) and another AR lower today so I guess we will see. I did like 4 AR lowers already 1 10.5, 14.5, a 22LR and a stripped one. I did yet another stripped one today for S&G so I guess we will see.

Logic would dictate you're not making a "new AW" and if it's already an AW then it *should* be legal but logic doesn't fit in the ATF or VA now.

Aslo I guess if you put a tard button in it, it's not an AW? I have no idea and I don't really care because I have like 8 or so AR's before all this anyway and I am not putting tard buttons in any of my stuff. I don't even try and get my head around the count the features game. Though I have always wanted a wood stocked style AR with a bull barrel too. That would be neat and I may try and make one of these lowers I have laying around into that - Im sure somehow that's an AW too - not that I really care because I have the lowers coming out my ears well before some stupid July 1 deadline.

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