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8/20/2023 7:47:02 PM EDT
[#1]
Oh so these are already out in the wild? not something they're just prototyping right now?
8/20/2023 8:30:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Xanatos903:
Oh so these are already out in the wild? not something they're just prototyping right now?
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According to their comment reply on that post, if your SN starts with an 8 its the new style seen in the video. Been out a couple months.
8/20/2023 8:58:27 PM EDT
[#3]
Thanks. I don't have instagram so I'm only able to see portions of posts.
8/21/2023 5:20:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:


Since you’re a mod can you pull my thread from the NV forum and make it active here? It had a lot of good talk on these devices as well.
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The 37 page "Airsoft grade IR devices on real guns?" thread? Yeah, that needs to be unlocked. There was a wealth of information in that thread and with the recent changes there's really no reason why it should still be locked.
8/21/2023 6:11:19 PM EDT
[#5]
Good Idea.  I will ask.
8/22/2023 7:31:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:




Thanks, gents. I'll give a legit AXON or Hot Button a try and see if they do better in the SOMO-15.
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Originally Posted By Diz:
Yeah the legacy switches are not quite up to par, although the newer ones have improved.  Using an after-market switch with it is small price to pay, I think.

Invisible Sight just sent out another email blast saying the logjam is getting ready to break.  

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Got the legit ModButton Lite on the AK101 with a SOMO-15 last Friday and after 60rds the plug was still in place and the MBL activated the laser without issue.

Planning to run this gun in a night match on Saturday where we'll have dynamic movement, shooting, transitions, etc so we'll see how this SOMO-15 holds up to something more akin to real world use.
8/22/2023 8:14:55 AM EDT
[#7]
Right on.  I've had real good luck with UT switches of all sorts.  Rocking out the Axons as of late.

Bringing back the older thread is a NO GO but maybe we can carefully re-construct some info and leave out the contro stuff.  

I think the PEQ-15 stuff is kosh but the NGAL stuff might be better discussed as Chinese airsoft stuff over at the airsoft/milsim forum.
8/22/2023 9:50:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: French1966][Edited] [#8]
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Originally Posted By doyouquaxu:


According to their comment reply on that post, if your SN starts with an 8 its the new style seen in the video. Been out a couple months.
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Originally Posted By doyouquaxu:
Originally Posted By Xanatos903:
Oh so these are already out in the wild? not something they're just prototyping right now?


According to their comment reply on that post, if your SN starts with an 8 its the new style seen in the video. Been out a couple months.



I have a couple newer Somo ones with the 8 prefix serial number series. I don’t have a frame of reference as to how the old ones were constructed but these do seem to have some visible fibers in the housing material that reminds me of the real peq15 material.

Anyways they’ve held up fine so far but I’m only using on 22lr. The turret feel isn’t consistent between them, but everything else is great. Illuminators are clean and at the widest setting they are pretty much perfect for how I like the illuminator spread. Lasers are co-aligned as well unlike some reports I’ve heard.

I’m happy with them for the money even though I was incredibly skeptical of them before I got them in hand.

8/22/2023 12:27:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Diz:
Right on.  I've had real good luck with UT switches of all sorts.  Rocking out the Axons as of late.

Bringing back the older thread is a NO GO but maybe we can carefully re-construct some info and leave out the contro stuff.  

I think the PEQ-15 stuff is kosh but the NGAL stuff might be better discussed as Chinese airsoft stuff over at the airsoft/milsim forum.
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I had an AXON on it at first, but the T-2 in an RSR mount sits pretty low and the 45deg angled button and surrounding plastic casing of the AXON almost completely obscured the sight picture, so a flat ModButton Lite went on instead.
8/22/2023 2:20:26 PM EDT
[#10]
For sure, if you're not rocking an extended "NV" style mount, then mod buttons are your friend.
8/23/2023 7:58:01 PM EDT
[#11]
Is there any advantage to waiting for the NGAL model or should I just fo on the peq15?
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8/23/2023 10:54:41 PM EDT
[#12]
Well I don’t have a N6A£, real or copy, but I think there is some advantage. Obviously we are waiting to see how they turn out. The Peq-15’s are pretty nice and are about half the price of what the other unit will be. New unit is aluminum anodized housing and appears to be a better build. Let’s see if that ends up being the case.
8/24/2023 6:21:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX:
Is there any advantage to waiting for the NGAL model or should I just fo on the peq15?
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If we had a reasonable expectation that the wrongthink laser would be released in the next couple months, I could see waiting being reasonable. But the laser you have is worth more than the laser you want.
8/24/2023 8:22:26 AM EDT
[#14]
Well based on how these things have run, I'd get a PEQ-15 now and go train.  Could be months before you see the one that cannot be named.
8/24/2023 9:12:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Diz:
Well based on how these things have run, I'd get a PEQ-15 now and go train.  Could be months before you see the one that cannot be named.
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My thought process was if I waited the ngal has a rugged body (aluminum), wider ir beam and I was hoping they beefed up the insides after all the peq15 feedback.

Maybe thinking they beef up the insides is a pipe dream but who knows.
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8/24/2023 7:58:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX:


My thought process was if I waited the ngal has a rugged body (aluminum), wider ir beam and I was hoping they beefed up the insides after all the peq15 feedback.

Maybe thinking they beef up the insides is a pipe dream but who knows.
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The problem with the forbidden one is that there's no way to tell when (or truly, if) it will be commercially available
8/24/2023 8:31:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NewWind:

The problem with the forbidden one is that there's no way to tell when (or truly, if) it will be commercially available
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The real one or the replica?
8/24/2023 9:46:05 PM EDT
[#18]
Well I ordered a peq15.

I plan on running it on my AK so we will see what happens.
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8/25/2023 8:54:49 AM EDT
[#19]
I think that's a good move.  I would like to see the lesson's learned applied to the one who shall not be named, (or SNBN?), but it would seem tracking that shit and applying it to the next model is not high on the to-do list.

One thing I've learned from all this, things get hyped on FB a lot sooner than they are ready to go.  And "Two Weeks" is Chinese for "I don't know when it will be ready, but some time in the future".

If I was a betting man, I'd say some time next year you will finally see the SNBN.  Maybe June?

Until then, we can rock n roll with what we have.
8/25/2023 9:23:26 AM EDT
[#20]
Am I allowed to share email correspondence with the manufacturer of a unit that we are all waiting on to ship?

Turns out there was a slight programming issue with the PCB board and seems to think it will be corrected 'in a few days'.

I got a video of the error, when switchings between AL-DL mode slowly the unit would shut down and have to power back up.

Other than that, the unit looks great! Fingers crossed they finally ship in a week or so!
8/25/2023 11:08:17 AM EDT
[#21]
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Originally Posted By Nachricter:
Am I allowed to share email correspondence with the manufacturer of a unit that we are all waiting on to ship?

Turns out there was a slight programming issue with the PCB board and seems to think it will be corrected 'in a few days'.

I got a video of the error, when switchings between AL-DL mode slowly the unit would shut down and have to power back up.

Other than that, the unit looks great! Fingers crossed they finally ship in a week or so!
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Are you referring to IS or SG?
8/25/2023 11:23:29 AM EDT
[#22]
IS.
8/25/2023 7:13:12 PM EDT
[#23]
How did they not test this at the board level… and instead waited for assembly
8/26/2023 9:49:05 AM EDT
[#24]
This is a common problem with many Chinese LAMs I have tested.  The switch is the weak point.  For whatever reason, a good switch is hard to build.  It will either not go into the next mode, or the previous mode stays on, along with the new mode.  Especially if you hold the fire button down.

I'm thinking it's best to confine this discussion to IS PEQ-15, vs SG PEQ-15.

We can perhaps discuss the IS and SG "SNBN's" as Chinese airsoft kit, over in the airsoft/mil-sim forum .  

IS actually makes a very nice PEQ-15; it's just overshadowed by other stuff he makes.  So it's a question of the SG-15  @ 259, vs the IS-15 @ 780.  It's probably worth that, but then you're getting so close to his other model.
8/30/2023 10:35:01 AM EDT
[#25]
Anyone know if we're allowed to sell these lasers in the EE? I'm going to sell off my IS PEQ and SG PEQ from this thread but don't want to catch a ban hammer lol
8/30/2023 10:37:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AKoch31:
Anyone know if we're allowed to sell these lasers in the EE? I'm going to sell off my IS PEQ and SG PEQ from this thread but don't want to catch a ban hammer lol
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Others have been sold.
8/30/2023 4:19:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AKoch31:
Anyone know if we're allowed to sell these lasers in the EE? I'm going to sell off my IS PEQ and SG PEQ from this thread but don't want to catch a ban hammer lol
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Curious why you couldn't? As long as you were clear in the description as to what they are I think you will be fine. You could always contact an ee mod and ask.
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8/30/2023 11:14:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AKoch31:
Anyone know if we're allowed to sell these lasers in the EE? I'm going to sell off my IS PEQ and SG PEQ from this thread but don't want to catch a ban hammer lol
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My listing got pulled and I got a warning due to it being a "full power laser".  Seems like that EE policy is a holdover from the days when full power laser usually meant stolen goods.  I ended up selling it on a FB night vision group.
8/30/2023 11:38:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Eric_T_Cartman:


My listing got pulled and I got a warning due to it being a "full power laser".  Seems like that EE policy is a holdover from the days when full power laser usually meant stolen goods.  I ended up selling it on a FB night vision group.
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Originally Posted By Eric_T_Cartman:
Originally Posted By AKoch31:
Anyone know if we're allowed to sell these lasers in the EE? I'm going to sell off my IS PEQ and SG PEQ from this thread but don't want to catch a ban hammer lol


My listing got pulled and I got a warning due to it being a "full power laser".  Seems like that EE policy is a holdover from the days when full power laser usually meant stolen goods.  I ended up selling it on a FB night vision group.


I would bring it up to the ee mods. Seems like something that needs to be changed.
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8/31/2023 1:04:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX:


I would bring it up to the ee mods. Seems like something that needs to be changed.
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I tried to sell a real PEQ-2 I no longer needed and got an account warning. Oh well, I guess. I don't sell on other forums and I usually just trash the gear that doesn't sell here. I've always wondered what the inside of one looked like after opening it up with a hammer.
"When you buy a jar of peanut butter do you look at the born on date? No. You buy it, stick your dick in it and go to town" aBADidea

Adapt, improvise and overcome....or fucking die trying.
8/31/2023 1:18:41 PM EDT
[#31]
Can't have the real ones because 'StOleN' can't have the fake ones because 'InTeLlEcTuAl PrOpErTy.'

Checks out.
9/1/2023 12:54:07 PM EDT
[#32]
Just got tracking for all 4 IS NGAL units which were updated to new housing and board. Lets see how fast they arrive.
9/1/2023 1:32:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 100roundclipazine:
Just got tracking for all 4 IS NGAL units which were updated to new housing and board. Lets see how fast they arrive.
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Looking forward to your review!
9/1/2023 1:40:23 PM EDT
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Looking forward to your review!
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Originally Posted By chaas67:
Originally Posted By 100roundclipazine:
Just got tracking for all 4 IS NGAL units which were updated to new housing and board. Lets see how fast they arrive.



Looking forward to your review!


Agreed.  Also, when was your order date?  Thanks.
9/1/2023 2:13:18 PM EDT
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Looking forward to your review!
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Originally Posted By chaas67:



Looking forward to your review!


You guys want it in text on here or should i just record a video and upload it to youtube or something? I have never done a video but easier to talk than type lol.

Originally Posted By fordkicksass:


Agreed.  Also, when was your order date?  Thanks.



11/23/2022……
9/1/2023 2:17:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 100roundclipazine:


You guys want it in text on here or should i just record a video and upload it to youtube or something? I have never done a video but easier to talk than type lol.




11/23/2022……
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Whatever is easiest for you - I’m grateful that you’re willing to give us your impressions on it! 👍
9/1/2023 4:27:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 100roundclipazine:
Just got tracking for all 4 IS NGAL units which were updated to new housing and board. Lets see how fast they arrive.
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Same.
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9/1/2023 5:02:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chaas67:


Whatever is easiest for you - I’m grateful that you’re willing to give us your impressions on it! 👍
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Whatever is easiest for you - I’m grateful that you’re willing to give us your impressions on it! 👍


Ill see what works, unfortunately I sold the scar 20 so i cant test it on the scar unless I find someone local who wants to throw it on and beat it up a bit. I have a 416 on hand so ill throw it on that and a rattler as ive slimmed down the collection lol.


Originally Posted By kilroymcb:
Same.


I keep refreshing the tracking

He said this would be fast ass fedex, i have a sneaking suspicion that the tracking was generated to ease the tension but the units may still be under production.
I will give the benefit of the doubt. These better be the best lams ive ever used.
9/1/2023 5:10:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 100roundclipazine:


Ill see what works, unfortunately I sold the scar 20 so i cant test it on the scar unless I find someone local who wants to throw it on and beat it up a bit. I have a 416 on hand so ill throw it on that and a rattler as ive slimmed down the collection lol.




I keep refreshing the tracking

He said this would be fast ass fedex, i have a sneaking suspicion that the tracking was generated to ease the tension but the units may still be under production.
I will give the benefit of the doubt. These better be the best lams ive ever used.
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Boy, you ain't kidding. He quoted 6 weeks when I first paid for it... its been 8 months. LOL.

I was actually able to procure a real PEQ-15 in the interim.
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9/1/2023 5:20:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kilroymcb:
Boy, you ain't kidding. He quoted 6 weeks when I first paid for it... its been 8 months. LOL.

I was actually able to procure a real PEQ-15 in the interim.
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I sold both fp peqs for 4 of these and it better be worth it.
Passed up 4 crazy priced LA5s for this shit.
9/1/2023 6:45:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 100roundclipazine:


Ill see what works, unfortunately I sold the scar 20 so i cant test it on the scar unless I find someone local who wants to throw it on and beat it up a bit. I have a 416 on hand so ill throw it on that and a rattler as ive slimmed down the collection lol.




I keep refreshing the tracking

He said this would be fast ass fedex, i have a sneaking suspicion that the tracking was generated to ease the tension but the units may still be under production.
I will give the benefit of the doubt. These better be the best lams ive ever used.
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That's exactly what happened to me. Never given to fedex and my first tracking number was generated in January. It actually shipped in MAY
9/1/2023 7:08:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 100roundclipazine:


I sold both fp peqs for 4 of these and it better be worth it.
Passed up 4 crazy priced LA5s for this shit.
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Oof. I’m sorry for your loss
9/1/2023 7:44:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By French1966:


Oof. I’m sorry for your loss
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Originally Posted By 100roundclipazine:


I sold both fp peqs for 4 of these and it better be worth it.
Passed up 4 crazy priced LA5s for this shit.


Oof. I’m sorry for your loss


My thoughts exactly
9/1/2023 8:24:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Diz:the one who shall not be named, (or SNBN?)
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Just call them Voldemort.
9/1/2023 10:10:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-:


My thoughts exactly
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Who the hell trades out full power proven units for units made in some Chinese guys closet?

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9/2/2023 12:27:45 AM EDT
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Who the hell trades out full power proven units for units made in some Chinese guys closet?

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I dont think it would be so much of a trade as  
Let me sell this unit for $2K, buy four Chong units and take the leftover $1K to buy something nice.

US full power units are grossly overpriced as has been discussed many times. And some people want to equip multiple firearms with IR that aren't necessarily their first line guns.
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9/2/2023 7:29:23 AM EDT
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Who the hell trades out full power proven units for units made in some Chinese guys closet?

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I can easily go find another fp laser.
This was a value thing, I had the ability to outfit more guns with lasers without spending exorbitant amounts.  
Not like im betting my life with these.
9/2/2023 7:36:37 AM EDT
[#48]
That's very true.  I have 2 x ATPIAL's sitting on the shelf right now, with 4 x SG-15's on rifles.  To each his own.  

These are nice place-holders until IS can fill my order.
9/3/2023 11:38:41 AM EDT
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Somogear's "eagerly anticipated aluminum laser" is now up for sale at Paragon Armory, their US distributor. They ship in early October.

Just ordered one, will post details once it arrives.
9/3/2023 10:52:46 PM EDT
[#50]
IS has to be shittin bricks right now. If the SoMo unit turns out to be a duty grade device I’d imagine it will kill their sales. The likely hood of the SoMo being duty grade may not be great but they have improved the PEQ quite a bit lately. Who knows. Looks like we will find out soon enough.

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