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11/23/2015 11:58:57 AM EDT
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Drama, REALLY BUSHMAN???
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Yes, really.  I meant to try translate his valid concerns without the drama.  I failed.  






Also, the camera used has settings, default settings even are settings.  I also understand that you can't tweak the settings to make the picture better for each or else it isn't much of a valid comparison.  I also understand that settings that make the Gen1 show up in a picture may very well make the Gen3 look washed out or over bright.



 








11/23/2015 1:58:45 PM EDT
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Yes, really.  I meant to try translate his valid concerns without the drama.  I failed.  



Also, the camera used has settings, default settings even are settings.  I also understand that you can't tweak the settings to make the picture better for each or else it isn't much of a valid comparison.  I also understand that settings that make the Gen1 show up in a picture may very well make the Gen3 look washed out or over bright.
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Drama, REALLY BUSHMAN???


Yes, really.  I meant to try translate his valid concerns without the drama.  I failed.  



Also, the camera used has settings, default settings even are settings.  I also understand that you can't tweak the settings to make the picture better for each or else it isn't much of a valid comparison.  I also understand that settings that make the Gen1 show up in a picture may very well make the Gen3 look washed out or over bright.


All good Bushman, you failed nothing.  If only this poster would have simply asked the questions as you did initially there would have been no issues. There was LOT's of motives with this one.

Spot on with your "settings" comments as well.  This happens a lot with Gen 2 pics especially.  The G3 images are so bright it sometimes washes out, making the lower gained G2 SHP system look better in pics.
11/23/2015 5:24:57 PM EDT
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Vic, would an HDR photo (High Dynamic Range) help with displaying what the eye sees through the NV device?
11/23/2015 8:09:43 PM EDT
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Vic, would an HDR photo (High Dynamic Range) help with displaying what the eye sees through the NV device?
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There's a problem when our displays can only show 256 different brightness values of green. With night vision HDR imaging would mean reducing the shadows to bring up details, but would that look any better?

Good cameras with good lenses can capture over 12 bits (or even 14 bits when you add a trailing zero to the price) of useful data per color channel (12 bits = 4096 brightness values, 14 = 16384), but the problem of showing them remains. There is work underway to bring more bit depth to screens (televisions will be the first as it's the easiest one to convert, not that much software and hardware to redo) already this year. We might see televisions on Christmas that do this and hopefully work is also underway for PC operating systems & graphics hardware to support more color depth.
12/27/2015 8:56:59 PM EDT
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Man does that gen 1 viper suck. The D300 is about the lowest performing tube I'd feel comfortable even letting somebody use. The gen 2+ SHP actually really impressed me though. That tube is LIGHTYEARS better than the D300, although it clearly has its struggles as well.

I also notice the ITT tube is a bit "brighter" than the L3 tube, although not enough of a difference to pick one over the other. This was an awesome test. Best NV post I've read thus far.
12/27/2015 9:16:29 PM EDT
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Man does that gen 1 viper suck. The D300 is about the lowest performing tube I'd feel comfortable even letting somebody use. The gen 2+ SHP actually really impressed me though. That tube is LIGHTYEARS better than the D300, although it clearly has its struggles as well.

I also notice the ITT tube is a bit "brighter" than the L3 tube, although not enough of a difference to pick one over the other. This was an awesome test. Best NV post I've read thus far.
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The newest L3 Omni 8 was not awared at the time of this review. The modern L3 tubes meet and in many cases exceed the current ITT Omni 7 tubes.

We will be updating this thread in the very near future with the latest tubes. Thank you.

Vic


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