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3/20/2015 6:22:12 PM EDT
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Great idea with the case in the cardboard delirious1.



What are the guys who have the 19mm MKII using for a front lens flip up cover?
3/20/2015 6:26:36 PM EDT
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Great idea with the case in the cardboard delirious1.



What are the guys who have the 19mm MKII using for a front lens flip up cover?

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3/20/2015 6:29:47 PM EDT
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Your welcome.   I've seen a few videos where you can watch where the bullet hits the box and it makes a heat signature.   I think you can do the same thing but I'm going to sight mine in at 100 yards where this is difficult to see.   Hand warmers work really well at 100 yards but the spent case method might get you better, focal landmarks.
3/20/2015 6:31:14 PM EDT
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Thank you UNV.
3/20/2015 7:25:28 PM EDT
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I need to stop for a minute and say how thankful I am for the customer service at TNVC.  I've been taken care of above and beyond by this company.   I have no affiliation. Just a customer.   They just do customer service really well.    Like to also thank UNV for all the videos and posts that has made it easier to learn the MK II.  Made it easier to to a lot of things.    I appreciate you both.
3/20/2015 11:24:34 PM EDT
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I will put together a quick video to demonstrate the on-shot-zero and reticle position recall to explain.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d6/tnadair/ARFCOM/EE6420EA-BA56-4EE0-9C04-C9DDE4E984F1_zpshrz2u769.jpg  



Any ETA on this?
Finally got around to it.
https://youtu.be/C9CrYKYJlBQ

   


Extremely cool video, thanks for posting.
3/22/2015 6:57:09 AM EDT
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Is this thing (IR Hunter) rated for air rifles?  Something along the line of the AirForce Escape?

And does anyone know specifically which LaRue mount the IR Hunter is using?  I would like to swap it out with a Bobro if Bobro makes an interchangeable mount with the LaRue on the IR Hunter.  Nothing wrong with the LaRue, please don't start any such discussions here, completely unnecessary.
3/22/2015 11:17:57 AM EDT
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Is this thing (IR Hunter) rated for air rifles?  Something along the line of the AirForce Escape?



And does anyone know specifically which LaRue mount the IR Hunter is using?  I would like to swap it out with a Bobro if Bobro makes an interchangeable mount with the LaRue on the IR Hunter.  Nothing wrong with the LaRue, please don't start any such discussions here, completely unnecessary.
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The only one that might possibly fit is this one http://www.bobroengineering.com/view/product/6/

 
The issue is the profile of the battery housing. It may or may not have enough room to clear the mount. I went ahead and ordered one so I can see if it fits.






3/22/2015 2:02:42 PM EDT
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Is this thing (IR Hunter) rated for air rifles?  Something along the line of the AirForce Escape?

And does anyone know specifically which LaRue mount the IR Hunter is using?  I would like to swap it out with a Bobro if Bobro makes an interchangeable mount with the LaRue on the IR Hunter.  Nothing wrong with the LaRue, please don't start any such discussions here, completely unnecessary.
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We use a Larue L681 but the interface on the sight is the same as a Trijicon ACOG so most ACOG systel mounts will work if they can clear the battery compartment.

As for the Air Gun question we have not tested it and from my understanding certain air guns have been know to destroy day scopes. I would be cautious if you try.

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3/22/2015 2:26:29 PM EDT
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Since the IR Hunter does not collimate and uses a shift principle for its clip-on mode it will perform different then a CNVD or T70. I have found that it works best at 1.5x but it will also work from 1x up to 4x depending on the specific optics. With a variable optic you can set it at your desired magnification so this is ideal If you have a fixed optic then you are stuck with the magnification you have. One thing about the IR Hunter and the new IR Patrol M300W is that they so work as clip-on systems and as dedicated sights they are perfect, not sure if other sights can say the same and at double the price.

To better explain if I have a 1-4x variable I can set it to 1.5x which seems to be typically ideal. If I was to magnify and go to 3 or 4x then I would be zooming into the display and thus breaking down my resolution.  The best comparison is your TV, there is an optimum distance for the best picture, too far away and it is difficult to see and too close and you see the individual RGB pixels.

Day optics we have ran with the IR Hunter and IR Patrol M300W:
  Elcan Spectre DR 1-4 set to 1x - this is our favorite hands down
  Vortex Razor  1-6x
  Night force NSX 1-4x
  Leupold Mark IV 3.5-12x
  Nightforce NSX 2.5-10x
  Trijicon SRS
  EOTech 512


Food for thought - If you are spending this much for a thermal sight then it seems spending a little more to have the best compatible day sight is logical.

ScottIRD
3/22/2015 4:48:48 PM EDT
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Sorry for the delay.  Dark along the bottom is a down comfort, to the right of the front sight post is a radio with it's antenna sticking up.  Everything above the bed is a glass window reflecting into an air conditioned room.

3/23/2015 5:40:26 AM EDT
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Has anyone tried a rail riser for mounting their MKII?  It sits a little lower than I like.
3/23/2015 3:25:12 PM EDT
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Spring powered airguns are known scope killers.  Pneumatic are
essentially recoil-less.  Then when you go to pcp or co2, these are
pneumatic, but with very controlled air discharge to increase shot
count & a relatively heavy high pressure cylinder to hold the air, so even less recoil.
While my post is worthless regarding your warranty.  It would be a fairly sad day if the recoil of a pcp would hurt one of these scope.  fwiw I hope to put my patrol (when I get one that is) on a Prod occasionally for rat hunting.  (the escape is designed for higher power, but I think the Prod will have better ergonomics).





 
3/23/2015 9:15:33 PM EDT
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Scott, el al:

Anyone try a Leupold M6C1 with the IR Hunter Mark 2? 1-6x?

Also, my IR Hunter Mark 2 has numbers on the screen when in CO mode, and ZC mode...anyone ne know what's up with that?

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3/23/2015 10:41:33 PM EDT
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Also, my IR Hunter Mark 2 has numbers on the screen when in CO mode, and ZC mode...anyone ne know what's up with that?





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The numbers are indicators for your menu icons.




 
First digit is your left turret, second is top turret, third is right turret.


That said, just click through the levels on your MK II in co mode and it will all make sense.


 
3/24/2015 1:45:55 AM EDT
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Hello Scott, since we have you here briefly, I want to shoot off a question before you leave.

What kind of extended/exterior power options are you guys developing for the IR Hunter and how quickly will it hit the market?  If you guys are taking suggestions, I really think an adapter for the usb power packs that are common for electronics would be an excellent way to go.

Maybe a battery compartment adapter/cap that has the usb socket on the outside and the circuitry needed to convert the voltage or amp on the inside of it, resting in the battery compartment?  The internals would be connected with the cap and be stick-like in shape and fit into the battery compartment when screwed on.  

Just throwing ideas out there.
3/24/2015 10:01:31 AM EDT
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Hello Scott, since we have you here briefly, I want to shoot off a question before you leave.

What kind of extended/exterior power options are you guys developing for the IR Hunter and how quickly will it hit the market?  If you guys are taking suggestions, I really think an adapter for the usb power packs that are common for electronics would be an excellent way to go.

Maybe a battery compartment adapter/cap that has the usb socket on the outside and the circuitry needed to convert the voltage or amp on the inside of it, resting in the battery compartment?  The internals would be connected with the cap and be stick-like in shape and fit into the battery compartment when screwed on.  

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Scott will speak for himself.  I did call on this issue.  It's on the backburner because of the patrol units being in production.  So, I was told it was set aside for now but no ETA.

Scott...if you are reading this.   Please look into making some presets for the IR hunter for reticles or at least have the ability to see X,Y coordinates.

I'd also like a battery extender option.
3/24/2015 10:06:37 AM EDT
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Does the optic hold the zero when you replace the batteries?
3/24/2015 10:07:53 AM EDT
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3/24/2015 7:55:05 PM EDT
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Re: numbers is co modeThe numbers are indicators for your menu icons.
  First digit is your left turret, second is top turret, third is right turret.

Do the number ever go away? I noted that they we me I information, but I have noted them turning off...

That said, just click through the levels on your MK II in co mode and it will all make sense.
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Anyone try a Leupold M6C1 with the IR Hunter Mark 2? 1-6x?

Also, my IR Hunter Mark 2 has numbers on the screen when in CO mode, and ZC mode...anyone ne know what's up with that?

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Re: numbers is co modeThe numbers are indicators for your menu icons.
  First digit is your left turret, second is top turret, third is right turret.

Do the number ever go away? I noted that they we me I information, but I have noted them turning off...

That said, just click through the levels on your MK II in co mode and it will all make sense.



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Anyone try a Leupold M6C1 with the IR Hunter Mark 2? 1-6x?



Also, my IR Hunter Mark 2 has numbers on the screen when in CO mode, and ZC mode...anyone ne know what's up with that?



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Re: numbers is co modeThe numbers are indicators for your menu icons.

  First digit is your left turret, second is top turret, third is right turret.



Do the number ever go away? I noted that they we me I information, but I have noted them turning off...



That said, just click through the levels on your MK II in co mode and it will all make sense.







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Level 8 will have a setting for how long the icons show before they disappear. I think it's 8 seconds, 15 seconds, or never but I don't have a unit to look at the moment.

 
3/25/2015 12:39:06 AM EDT
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What kind of extended/exterior power options are you guys developing for the IR Hunter and how quickly will it hit the market?  If you guys are taking suggestions, I really think an adapter for the usb power packs that are common for electronics would be an excellent way to go.

Maybe a battery compartment adapter/cap that has the usb socket on the outside and the circuitry needed to convert the voltage or amp on the inside of it, resting in the battery compartment?  The internals would be connected with the cap and be stick-like in shape and fit into the battery compartment when screwed on.  

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We are in our first production run of battery extenders, we expect them by the first week of April. They are finished being machined and now being nickel plated and hard anodized. They are $99 retail and should get you around 6 hours at 60hz and over 8hrs at 30hz.
In the ir hunter on level 8 you will find a setting for the extender which all it does is makes the battery indicator more accurate when using 3 batteries. In the new IR patrol we auto detect if you have 1 or 2 batteries.

On another note we just did some battery life testing and were surprised at how much more we got at 30hz. We ran on one energizer CR123 at 60hz with it lasting 1 hour and 55 minutes, then at 30hz we ran for 2 hours and 50 minutes. I still like the 60hz.

As for external battery packs we do not make one and our factory policy is we do not recommend anyone doing this. That's the official response.
3/25/2015 3:02:43 AM EDT
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We are in our first production run of battery extenders, we expect them by the first week of April. They are finished being machined and now being nickel plated and hard anodized. They are $99 retail and should get you around 6 hours at 60hz and over 8hrs at 30hz.
In the ir hunter on level 8 you will find a setting for the extender which all it does is makes the battery indicator more accurate when using 3 batteries. In the new IR patrol we auto detect if you have 1 or 2 batteries.
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Thanks for your prompt reply, Scott, really appreciate how quickly you guys are getting these products and accessories out the door, much faster than other companies in the game.

So the IR Hunter is able to take the voltage of up to 3 cr123 batteries at once?  With a typical cr123 battery coming in fresh at ~3.3 volts, 3 batteries at a time would add up to ~ 10 volts.  

Can the IR Hunter handle between 9~10 volts?  Or did I mess up on the math somewhere?
3/25/2015 11:14:05 AM EDT
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I have the same question also?
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the answer is yes, it can handle 10 volts. ...according to my conversation with IRdefense.
3/25/2015 1:27:04 PM EDT
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Well if it can't they look like morons and will be replacing a lot of units under warranty. So I think it is safe to say it is tested and will work safely.

Glad to see this is finally coming out, I have been wanting it since it first was mentioned.
3/25/2015 3:10:27 PM EDT
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I'm super glad to hear about the battery extenders!

Scott:

Any news on when the IR Hunter Mark 2 specific download / video cable will be available?

GB

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3/25/2015 3:18:51 PM EDT
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I'm super glad to hear about the battery extenders!



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Any news on when the IR Hunter Mark 2 specific download / video cable will be available?



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They are available now.

 
3/25/2015 3:39:08 PM EDT
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Yes. IRDACC-9704 available here. I haven't seen the software to download images yet, so until that is ready the download cable won't do much for you. I know the software will be available fairly soon. No firm eta on that.


 
3/25/2015 4:19:55 PM EDT
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Yes. I haven't seen the software to download images yet, so until that is ready the download cable won't do much for you. I know the software will be available fairly soon. No firm eta on that.  



Got it, so the cable is available, but the unit requires special software; IR Hunter MK 2 doesn't currently detect as a USB camera / storage device.

Still. They'll eventually update it, and the cable will be helpful!

(Thanks for the quick reply!)

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3/25/2015 6:38:39 PM EDT
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the answer is yes, it can handle 10 volts. ...according to my conversation with IRdefense.
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the answer is yes, it can handle 10 volts. ...according to my conversation with IRdefense.



This is a game-changing piece of information and I really need to hear it from UNV or Scott at IRD because if the IR Hunter can take 3 cr123 batteries, meaning ~10 volts, then it can easily take 2 rechargeable cr123 batteries without problems since they are only ~7.6 volts.


This is a make or break development for me, as I have been looking for a rechargeable-power solution for this scope since the DAY IT WAS ANNOUNCED!  If I can safely use 2 rechargeable cr123s, and from the news about it taking 3 primary 123s, it indeed can, then I I am in.

Scott, UNV, can you guys confirm about the safety ratings up to between 9~10 volts?  Thank you.
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Well if it can't they look like morons and will be replacing a lot of units under warranty. So I think it is safe to say it is tested and will work safely.

Glad to see this is finally coming out, I have been wanting it since it first was mentioned.
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Can the IR Hunter handle between 9~10 volts?  Or did I mess up on the math somewhere?


Well if it can't they look like morons and will be replacing a lot of units under warranty. So I think it is safe to say it is tested and will work safely.

Glad to see this is finally coming out, I have been wanting it since it first was mentioned.


Me too!  Can I get a confirmation from Scott that the Hunter is safely rated up to ~7.8 volts for rechargeable cr123s as far as voltage is concerned?  I believe the biggest/only issue with rechargeables has been the high voltage they carry over the primary (non-rechargeable) cr123s.  

This is GREAT news!
3/25/2015 7:02:33 PM EDT
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This is a game-changing piece of information and I really need to hear it from UNV or Scott at IRD because if the IR Hunter can take 3 cr123 batteries, meaning ~10 volts, then it can easily take 2 rechargeable cr123 batteries without problems since they are only ~7.6 volts.





This is a make or break development for me, as I have been looking for a rechargeable-power solution for this scope since the DAY IT WAS ANNOUNCED!  If I can safely use 2 rechargeable cr123s, and from the news about it taking 3 primary 123s, it indeed can, then I I am in.



Scott, UNV, can you guys confirm about the safety ratings up to between 9~10 volts?  Thank you.
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the answer is yes, it can handle 10 volts. ...according to my conversation with IRdefense.






This is a game-changing piece of information and I really need to hear it from UNV or Scott at IRD because if the IR Hunter can take 3 cr123 batteries, meaning ~10 volts, then it can easily take 2 rechargeable cr123 batteries without problems since they are only ~7.6 volts.





This is a make or break development for me, as I have been looking for a rechargeable-power solution for this scope since the DAY IT WAS ANNOUNCED!  If I can safely use 2 rechargeable cr123s, and from the news about it taking 3 primary 123s, it indeed can, then I I am in.



Scott, UNV, can you guys confirm about the safety ratings up to between 9~10 volts?  Thank you.
DO NOT USE RECHARGEABLE CR123A batteries. I have tried the good, the bad, the really bad(there are no great) rechargeable CR123A batteries. In the end because of high risk of failure, fire, and equipment damage I decided on using lithium CR123s. Keep in mind that using rechargeables could save us literally thousands of dollars per year with our rental pool, but the risk of damaging equipment and the awful run time just aren't worth it. Trust me.

 



We are working on an external power pack that will work with the MK I, MK II, IR Patrol, and a number of other units out there.
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DO NOT USE RECHARGEABLE CR123A batteries. I have tried the good, the bad, the really bad(there are no great) rechargeable CR123A batteries. In the end because of high risk of failure, fire, and equipment damage I decided on using lithium CR123s. Keep in mind that using rechargeables could save us literally thousands of dollars per year with our rental pool, but the risk of damaging equipment and the awful run time just aren't worth it. Trust me.  

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Okay, I understand your concern about the reliability of rcr123s, and appreciate your heads up, I know IRD will NOT warranty their scopes if I use rcr123s in them.  But as far as the voltage is concerned, since the IR Hunter is able to take up to 10 volts, the ~8 volts of two rcrs will be acceptable, no?

The concerns of risks of fire or failure are only RISKS, not voltage incompatibility, no?

If I ever run out of cr123s, i would like to have a fallback option that is at least workable IN THEORY.



can you also elaborate more on the external power pack you keep on refering to?  will it be rechargeable in nature? Primary still?  

Thank you.
3/25/2015 9:07:06 PM EDT
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Scott will more than likely be along to confirm the IR Hunter can accept 10 volts.  I have this info in an email from their engineer,,, but I know and accept you want to hear it for them.  When they do confirm, they will tell you the same.  That rechargeables are not recommended.    Why?  Prolonged use and they can heat up and rupture.    I don't plan on using them.  But off the record, I fly helicopters.   Rechargeable lithium batteries.   When I do, I limit my time with them to 50% discharge and only run them under hard conditions 4 minutes for smaller copters and 6-7'minutes for larger helis.   Lipos, don't like heat.   So.... Having said that.  If you want to run lithium rechargeables in you IR hunter......knowing you could torch a 6,0000 plus piece of equipment.....run them for a short period of time and not constantly and keep rotating them throughout the night when you are using them.   That would cut down on heat and possible rupture.   Use at your own risk.

Personally, an external battery is a better option and I'll wait for that.   If you feel inclined, drill a whole in the battery cap and use a wooden cylinder block and wire positive and negative terminals on each end of the battery, wooden dowl battery substitute.   Attach that to an output that can deliver the appropriate starting voltage.  I'll have to look at that email to tell you what that is.      I've done this with my old cuddeback cameras with external packs and it works fine.   That way, there's no risk of battery rupture at the MK II

Edit:  you need at least a constant 3.6 volts for the regulator to function properly in the iR hunter unit.  It regulates the voltage down for the IR hunter at a constant 3.3 volts for normal use. 10 volts, which is three cr123a, is reduced by the regulator and it emits a constant 3.3 volts.  

I asked about using a rechargeable 18650 battery which is commonly used to replace two cr123a in LED lights.   The voltage is ok at first.  But as the 18650 discharges, it falls below 3.6 volts. , normal stating voltages are 3.7 volts.   The regulator needs a headroom of .3 volts above 3.3 volts to function properly.  Two cr123a starts at 6 volts and when almost discharged are at 4 volts.

Here's the cuddeback workaround.  You could possibly do this for the IR hunter if you get voltage and amperage correct.  It's your 6,000 plus piece of equipment.
http://discussions.texasbowhunter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196588
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No worries, it's not my first day using lithium-ions, all of the quality lithium-ions these days (AWs, Nitecore, even Olight) have discharge protection and triple over-heat protection built in; these batteries will stop their internal chemicals reactions before they over heat.



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Yeah, no kidding, man, but have you heard of anything from UNV besides "something is being worked on right now?"   What will the external battery run on?  RCRs? 18650? usb power packs?    Unitl I hear from them, I have to plan for a case when there are no primary batteries around and it's either rechargeable or no juice.  You get what I mean?

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Now this is meat right here.  I see, so what would happen when the batteries fall below 3.6 volts?  If the unit simply stops running, then there obviously won't be any damage as it is simply out of juice?

If the unit keeps on going, but the regulator is no longer regulating, then the raw 3.5 or 3.4 volts are only .1 or .2 volts above the 3.3 volt working voltage of the IR Hunter.  Will .1 or .2 volts over the specification damage the unit?  I know I would not care to find out with mine unit, but like I said, if it is a situation between rechargeables or no juice, I will have a choice to make, and I want to make an informed choice when $6,000 will be on the line.  This is why I keep on asking.


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I asked about using a rechargeable 18650 battery which is commonly used to replace two cr123a in LED lights.   The voltage is ok at first.  But as the 18650 discharges, it falls below 3.6 volts. , normal stating voltages are 3.7 volts.   The regulator needs a headroom of .3 volts above 3.3 volts to function properly.  Two cr123a starts at 6 volts and when almost discharged are at 4 volts.
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I know 18650 would not work from the start, as I use them all the time and their starting voltage was too low, although this was before I heard about IR Hunter's voltage regulator from you in this post.

I believe RCR123s do not share this problem with 18650s, as their voltage stay above 1.8 volts even when they are discharged (protected batter cells auto-shutdown)?
I don't know how much you know about rcr123s, but I will go make sure.  Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks a ton for your helpful information, Delirious, you should get a discount from UNV or IRD for contributing so much.  
3/26/2015 12:02:23 PM EDT
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Okay, I understand your concern about the reliability of rcr123s, and appreciate your heads up, I know IRD will NOT warranty their scopes if I use rcr123s in them.  But as far as the voltage is concerned, since the IR Hunter is able to take up to 10 volts, the ~8 volts of two rcrs will be acceptable, no?
The concerns of risks of fire or failure are only RISKS, not voltage incompatibility, no?
If I ever run out of cr123s, i would like to have a fallback option that is at least workable IN THEORY.
can you also elaborate more on the external power pack you keep on refering to?  will it be rechargeable in nature? Primary still?  
Thank you.
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DO NOT USE RECHARGEABLE CR123A batteries. I have tried the good, the bad, the really bad(there are no great) rechargeable CR123A batteries. In the end because of high risk of failure, fire, and equipment damage I decided on using lithium CR123s. Keep in mind that using rechargeables could save us literally thousands of dollars per year with our rental pool, but the risk of damaging equipment and the awful run time just aren't worth it. Trust me.  
We are working on an external power pack that will work with the MK I, MK II, IR Patrol, and a number of other units out there.




Okay, I understand your concern about the reliability of rcr123s, and appreciate your heads up, I know IRD will NOT warranty their scopes if I use rcr123s in them.  But as far as the voltage is concerned, since the IR Hunter is able to take up to 10 volts, the ~8 volts of two rcrs will be acceptable, no?
The concerns of risks of fire or failure are only RISKS, not voltage incompatibility, no?
If I ever run out of cr123s, i would like to have a fallback option that is at least workable IN THEORY.
can you also elaborate more on the external power pack you keep on refering to?  will it be rechargeable in nature? Primary still?  
Thank you.
I can not speak for IRD, so I will have to go with their official response. IRD does not make external power supplies and does not recommend anyone doing so.
We see the need for an external power supply solution and will bring one to market. We have done it for other thermal systems and take many precautions to ensure that there is no possibility of damaging the scope when you use the external power supply correctly. The only things I can tell you for sure at this point are that it will be a rechargeable power supply, it will work across multiple systems, and be compatible with any 5v USB power source. As far as the details on the form, size, weight, connector and all that we are still in the development and testing a few options. I will make sure to keep everyone posted. Glad to hear there is interest in the product.





 
 
 
3/26/2015 12:22:45 PM EDT
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I can not speak for IRD, so I will have to go with their official response. IRD does not make external power supplies and does not recommend anyone doing so.



We see the need for an external power supply solution and will bring one to market. We have done it for other thermal systems and take many precautions to ensure that there is no possibility of damaging the scope when you use the external power supply correctly. The only things I can tell you for sure at this point are that it will be a rechargeable power supply, it will work across multiple systems, and be compatible with any 5v USB power source. As far as the details on the form, size, weight, connector and all that we are still in the development and testing a few options. I will make sure to keep everyone posted. Glad to hear there is interest in the product.

     
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DO NOT USE RECHARGEABLE CR123A batteries. I have tried the good, the bad, the really bad(there are no great) rechargeable CR123A batteries. In the end because of high risk of failure, fire, and equipment damage I decided on using lithium CR123s. Keep in mind that using rechargeables could save us literally thousands of dollars per year with our rental pool, but the risk of damaging equipment and the awful run time just aren't worth it. Trust me.  



We are working on an external power pack that will work with the MK I, MK II, IR Patrol, and a number of other units out there.





Okay, I understand your concern about the reliability of rcr123s, and appreciate your heads up, I know IRD will NOT warranty their scopes if I use rcr123s in them.  But as far as the voltage is concerned, since the IR Hunter is able to take up to 10 volts, the ~8 volts of two rcrs will be acceptable, no?



The concerns of risks of fire or failure are only RISKS, not voltage incompatibility, no?



If I ever run out of cr123s, i would like to have a fallback option that is at least workable IN THEORY.
can you also elaborate more on the external power pack you keep on refering to?  will it be rechargeable in nature? Primary still?  



Thank you.
I can not speak for IRD, so I will have to go with their official response. IRD does not make external power supplies and does not recommend anyone doing so.



We see the need for an external power supply solution and will bring one to market. We have done it for other thermal systems and take many precautions to ensure that there is no possibility of damaging the scope when you use the external power supply correctly. The only things I can tell you for sure at this point are that it will be a rechargeable power supply, it will work across multiple systems, and be compatible with any 5v USB power source. As far as the details on the form, size, weight, connector and all that we are still in the development and testing a few options. I will make sure to keep everyone posted. Glad to hear there is interest in the product.

     




 



Definitely interested here as well, thanks for the info.
3/26/2015 1:33:54 PM EDT
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a 123a battery, duracell type is 1400mah.  You use two of those (or up to 3).   I would think that any external rechargable power supply with 5 v  2.8 amps would be fine for use as an external battery.  What's needed is a cap for the MK II with a plug and a USB cable.  

Something like this would be cheap

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H9BEC8E?psc=1
3/26/2015 4:30:20 PM EDT
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UNV, buddy, you just earned some money coming your way.  

If you need some suggestions, i will tell you what i posted in the other thread:  Use a battery cap that still screws into the battery housing, but has an usb socket on the outside, and a stick-shaped processing unit on the inside that has dimensions that will allow it to contact/fit the batter housing when the cap is screwed in. PLEASE DO BRING THIS TO THE MARKET, WHATEVER IT LOOKS LIKE!
3/26/2015 4:35:23 PM EDT
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a 123a battery, duracell type is 1400mah.  You use two of those (or up to 3).   I would think that any external rechargable power supply with 5 v  2.8 amps would be fine for use as an external battery.  What's needed is a cap for the MK II with a plug and a USB cable.  

Something like this would be cheap

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H9BEC8E?psc=1
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I personally prefer this, but yes, we are on the same page

http://www.amazon.com/New-Trent-PowerPak-14000mAh-Smartphones/dp/B00GK745L2/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427401997&sr=8-1-fkmr2&keywords=Trent+extreme+power+pack+usb
3/26/2015 7:30:56 PM EDT
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Is there a curved eye piece for the MKII?  Something like the eye piece on a pvs-14 or the IR Patrol.





3/26/2015 10:22:48 PM EDT
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You can use pvs14 eye pieces on the MK2.  I've even been able to use a pvs14 camera adapter on it.
3/26/2015 10:28:09 PM EDT
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If you need some suggestions, i will tell you what i posted in the other thread:  Use a battery cap that still screws into the battery housing, but has an usb socket on the outside, and a stick-shaped processing unit on the inside that has dimensions that will allow it to contact/fit the batter housing when the cap is screwed in. PLEASE DO BRING THIS TO THE MARKET, WHATEVER IT LOOKS LIKE!
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Oh man! ...a quote an engineer can drive a truck through!! Woooooot!

I'm thinking Exide XMC-31 deep cycle marine battery, and a WW II Army surplus 5volt step down transformer... and an ATV...

...but the ATV will have to be electric too, or scare all of the critters away!  BUT: you get the added bonus of shooting on the move without a mini-gun!

I can build you that for $20,000, and Ill through in the camouflage paint job for not additional charge! Multicam (tm) even!

Man, that sucker probably run for 10days!

-grin-

In all seriousness there are a fair number of USB Li-ion charge packs out there, and a number of them put out ~5v @ 2.1A.  I'd be curious as to what the actual current draw on the Mark 2 is? I'm gonna guess about 1500mA peek... But we'd need to test that...

2.1A is what an iPad charger typically is FWIW, which is why so many of the packs are made to that spec, but they will charge with an iPhone charger... Albeit slowly... so we'd have to make sure whatever it is has tight tolerances.

Though.... We could use decent Li-ion rechargables in PARALLEL, which might occupy the same overall dementions as the afore mentioned 5v USB packs.  Also, you then have significantly less rapid current drain, risking far less wear and tear on the batteries, and therefore catastrophic cheap ass li-ion failure.

...something like a PAS-29 external battery pack... Of course there is the whole "attached to he back of your helmet issue..."

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3/26/2015 10:54:58 PM EDT
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Aw man.... You have NO idea how pissed off I am that they haven't created the flux capacitor or, more importantly, Mr Fusion!!

Damnit!

A beer can powered IR Hunter Mark II and ATV hog destroying Delorian platform...

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3/26/2015 11:24:23 PM EDT
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Found these two videos, notice the one with a "cheap SD" card doesn't show the full reticle while the HD SD card does and seems cleaner.

What do y'all think?  Am I just wanting to see a better image in the HD card video is there really any difference in the media used as it pertains to video recorded digitally.

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Found these two videos, notice the one with a "cheap SD" card doesn't show the full reticle while the HD SD card does and seems cleaner.





What do y'all think?  Am I just wanting to see a better image in the HD card video is there really any difference in the media used as it pertains to video recorded digitally.





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Definitely a difference, noticeably cleaner image. Thanks for the headsup, off to Amazon for an HD SD card.


 



Which HD SD card are you using for the comparison? Max size?

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