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5/14/2019 4:23:17 PM EDT
[#1]
30 round magazines available on globals website.

https://globalordnance.com/grand-power-magazine-9mm-30rd-fits-sp9a1-stribog-black-finish-sp9a1mag30-upc-8588005940177/
5/14/2019 8:18:20 PM EDT
[#2]
HB industries non recip kit for stribog in stock.

https://hbindustries.net/store/shop/gp-stribog-non-reciprocating-bolt-conversion/
5/16/2019 6:27:28 AM EDT
[#3]
Tri-lug and tri-lug/threaded barrels for the stribog available for preorder from In Lead We Trust. Will ship next week. They also have a disassembly tool.

https://inleadwetrust.com/product/tri-lug-barrel-for-grand-stribog-sp9-sp9a1/
5/17/2019 11:23:38 AM EDT
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In Lead We Trust says he is going to make a delayed blowback kit for the A1.
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5/17/2019 11:59:52 AM EDT
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No details yet but good news indeed.
5/17/2019 5:25:27 PM EDT
[#6]
It's crazy how much better the Stribog looks with a PROPER LENGTH barrel, three lug or not.

How Grand Power hasn't fixed that, I have no idea.
5/17/2019 7:59:48 PM EDT
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It's crazy how much better the Stribog looks with a PROPER LENGTH barrel, three lug or not.

How Grand Power hasn't fixed that, I have no idea.
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Proper length?
5/28/2019 5:07:25 PM EDT
[#8]
Stribog KES stock/brace are in stock.

https://stenparts.com/product/kes-grand-power-stribog-sp9/
6/5/2019 9:02:38 AM EDT
[#9]
Can someone give a calipered measurement of the polymer charging handle shuttle on the stribog?

I need the total length.

Thanks
6/5/2019 10:05:06 AM EDT
[#10]
5cm long
2cm wide
And the channel cut into it is a hair under 1cm in diameter x 3.5 cm length.
6/5/2019 12:34:22 PM EDT
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5cm long
2cm wide
And the channel cut into it is a hair under 1cm in diameter x 3.5 cm length.
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Many thanks to you sir.
6/5/2019 1:07:23 PM EDT
[#12]
Likewise.  Gonna have to compare this to my homemade one to see how close I got...
6/5/2019 2:36:27 PM EDT
[#13]
If anyone needs the non-reciprocating shuttle design, ive linked to a solidoworks edrawing for it
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q6pvmh1hfjpsidc/shuttle.EPRT?dl=0

I don’t have the edrawing app installed so I can’t verify all the dimensions show up correctly. I did make it in inches vs metric and If it’s not letting you see thousandths of an inch accuracy, let me know and I’ll tweak some settings and try again. There’s a couple of oddities that weren’t readily apparent before I removed it from the gun. There’s a slight taper in the height between the charging handle hole and the slot which reduces the height slightly and I’m not entirely sure this is needed. The 2nd thing are 2 dimples towards the front (open end of the slot) that may just be used to keep it in the receiver when the handle is removed.  I would start by just doing a rectangle with the handle hole and the slot and testing it’s function. If it’s getting caught up or acting funny, then do the taper and dimples.  Additionally you may get away with not doing the slot.

As for material, I’d suggest using delrin/acetal since it’s almost on par with aluminum for strength, fairly heat resistant, a low coefficient of friction, and of course is easily sourceable.
6/5/2019 3:43:38 PM EDT
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If anyone needs the non-reciprocating shuttle design, ive linked to a solidoworks edrawing for it
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q6pvmh1hfjpsidc/shuttle.EPRT?dl=0

I don’t have the edrawing app installed so I can’t verify all the dimensions show up correctly. I did make it in inches vs metric and If it’s not letting you see thousandths of an inch accuracy, let me know and I’ll tweak some settings and try again. There’s a couple of oddities that weren’t readily apparent before I removed it from the gun. There’s a slight taper in the height between the charging handle hole and the slot which reduces the height slightly and I’m not entirely sure this is needed. The 2nd thing are 2 dimples towards the front (open end of the slot) that may just be used to keep it in the receiver when the handle is removed.  I would start by just doing a rectangle with the handle hole and the slot and testing it’s function. If it’s getting caught up or acting funny, then do the taper and dimples.  Additionally you may get away with not doing the slot.

As for material, I’d suggest using delrin/acetal since it’s almost on par with aluminum for strength, fairly heat resistant, a low coefficient of friction, and of course is easily sourceable.
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Wow, you did not have go though all of that. I am in the process of modeling a new shuttle design to accept a SCAR folding charging handle. Should be pretty cool.
6/6/2019 2:50:39 PM EDT
[#15]
Modeled a charging handle block/shuttle for the stribog that will accept SCAR charging handles. As pictured I want to try a folding handle.



6/6/2019 7:44:02 PM EDT
[#16]
Looks great. Are you going to be 3D printing it or do you have a lot of work ahead of you milling it?
6/6/2019 8:52:53 PM EDT
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Looks great. Are you going to be 3D printing it or do you have a lot of work ahead of you milling it?
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SLS 3D printing in nylon 12. Should be here on the 18th.
6/10/2019 1:17:14 PM EDT
[#18]
@60-Driver

How did you attach the B&T stock? Did you use the base that came with the SBT brace that you modified? Does anyone make that base or do you have to buy that whole brace assembly to get it?

Thanks
6/10/2019 1:57:26 PM EDT
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@60-Driver

How did you attach the B&T stock? Did you use the base that came with the SBT brace that you modified? Does anyone make that base or do you have to buy that whole brace assembly to get it?

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See top of page 8 in the other thread.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/STRIBOG-SP9A1/48-490394/?page=7
6/10/2019 4:09:46 PM EDT
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@60-Driver

How did you attach the B&T stock? Did you use the base that came with the SBT brace that you modified? Does anyone make that base or do you have to buy that whole brace assembly to get it?

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HBI sells an adapter for the B&T stock. $90 for just the adapter, or $170 with the folding B&T (type) brace. HBI Adapter
6/10/2019 6:39:39 PM EDT
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@60-Driver

How did you attach the B&T stock? Did you use the base that came with the SBT brace that you modified? Does anyone make that base or do you have to buy that whole brace assembly to get it?

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I modified the existing Stribog backplate (shaved it down), then reprofiled the existing SBT brace to better fit the lines of the Stribog (see first page of this thread).  I connected them together with flathead socket screws.

I went through all this trouble before HBI came out with their adapter which is a one piece design.  It looks great and direct plug & play.  I'd rather go that route than try to modify parts again.
6/12/2019 2:28:21 PM EDT
[#22]
How did you remove the logo?

I hate that billboard
6/12/2019 3:10:03 PM EDT
[#23]
It's still there, maybe just colored black?
6/12/2019 9:53:05 PM EDT
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How did you remove the logo?

I hate that billboard
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 Which logo are you referring to?
6/12/2019 10:36:48 PM EDT
[#25]
Can anyone explain 922r and how it applies to adding a b&t stock? I've heard rumblings it's a concern.

Thanks for the help.
6/12/2019 10:58:50 PM EDT
[#26]
sbr-ing a foreign gun is technically making a new firearm so 922r should be observed. I’ve heard counter claims however but I can’t quite recall their arguments.... maybe something about the wep you make it into has to have an exact duplicate outside the US for non sporting purposes so going with a stock not available via GP factory might count). With that said, (Don’t take my advice, I’m not a lawyer) as far as I know no ones ever been prosecuted specifically for 922r.
6/12/2019 11:02:13 PM EDT
[#27]
The side of your gun looked like it didn't have the giant logo on the side in white
6/12/2019 11:56:34 PM EDT
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The side of your gun looked like it didn't have the giant logo on the side in white
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Ohh.  Yeah it's still there, crappy florescent lighting probably washed it out in the pics.
6/13/2019 12:22:03 AM EDT
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Can anyone explain 922r and how it applies to adding a b&t stock? I've heard rumblings it's a concern.

Thanks for the help.
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Below is what I posted in the other Stribog thread and how I interpret 922r compliance.  With all my mods, to include several US made parts, I think I'm well under the 10-part maximum.  If you switched to AR FCG components and added an ILWT barrel, I think you'd be under as well.

To my knowledge there is no "official" (ATF vetted) parts count. But with Global Ordnance now importing, that may change. Here's my interpretation of 922r parts in the Stribog (posted from page 12):

Of the 20 parts ATF has listed, an SP9A1 SBR would have 13 (so replacement of 3 with US manufactured parts to meet the 'no more than 10 imported parts' stipulation)

"IMPORTED" PARTS STRIBOG HAS/USES:
(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
(2) Bolts
(3) Pistol grips
(4) Magazine bodies
(5) Followers
(6) Floorplates
(7) Barrels
(8) Mounting blocks (trunions)
(9) Butt stocks
(10) Trigger housings
(11) Triggers
(12) Hammers
(13) Disconnectors

STRIBOG DOESN'T HAVE OR USE THE FOLLOWING:
(14) Sears
(15) Barrel extensions
(16) Muzzle attachments
(17) Bolt carriers
(18) Operating rods
(19) Gas pistons
(20) Forearms, hand guards

It seems logical that if you replace the trigger, hammer, and disconnector with AR components, you're covered. Anything more is gravy. Again, my interpretation only.

Additionally, since the "pistol grip" is an integral part of the lower "receiver", one could argue that it's not a separate item, thereby reducing the total number of imported parts to 12. However, one can also argue the Stribog's charging block counts as "bolt carrier".

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