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| I've been trying them out and reaalize I really like it and dont mind using it slung too. I think im going to just use single point exclusively now. |
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Originally Posted By GlockPride: If you use them on really short guns like a small smg they can be okay to good. Anything longer and you hate your nuts, especially when/if you’re running. ^This. I tried a single point for a bit in the military, and I liked it until we were running transition drills and every time I dropped the rifle to draw my pistol, my rifle would whack me in the junk. I went to two-point after that and never looked back. |
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It’s very video game not very usefull. It’s annoying in fact a silent sling is better I can fast draw a M16 using a usgi silent sling My fav Setuk is a 2 point double bungeeio with adjuster. Wide shoulder . Kit bashedn sewn frontal a few different slings. Attached File If I clip it on the back two sling parts it’s kinda like a single. Behaves as a single point is meant to be ….more so it stays stable on you side. No swing about. No gun slapping the nuts action |
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England Swings Like The Pendulum Do... Single Point Slings are ev-en worse. Attached File |
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I did have a fascination with single point slings after reading the Lone Survivor book back in the day. I studied very closely with two people on the team mainly Lt Murphy and Danny Dietz, if I remember their names correctly. Murphy had a CQD plate with a blackhawk (I think at that time the sling itself was made by CQD and not blackhawk). It included a bungee and some HK style hooks. What I noticed is the hooks could be used as a convertible where you put the one hook on the CQD plate, then you put the other hook into the little hole. From my understanding this was a innovation back from the early MP5 days where you can have a convertable sling from one point to two point. Though studying it closely it appears LT Murphy uses the two loops on the plate with each of the hooks which works as well. I believe the bungee is the best method where it can keep it tight to your body and acts more of a "side" where it goes more towards your strong side and it can be really high up. This way it is ready to shoot. The other interesting one I've seen would be from Danny Dietz who appears to use a makeshift boat/heavy duty carabiner and using some lines to tie to the carbineer and the endplate of the CQD plate. One thing interesting is that he uses it similar to Lt Murphy where he would have it more towards the side of his strong arm, and keeping the stock closer to his shoulders. It acts more of a weight bearing than it did as a single point sling. I tried it out myself and it works very well. You can keep the rifle just as you would as a two point sling but you needed to wear a weight bearing vest for it to be effective and needed to have it close to your body. Otherwise it would be hitting you in the nuts repeatedly. I found the CQD sling to be best as you can adjust it to where it is very tight against your body and you can use it as a single point sling that is closer to your shoulders. Some samples: Lt Murphy with the CQD sling (I think before it was made by blackhawk) and you can see he keeps it more to the side and very tight against his body. This is the best method with the bungee cord as it keeps it tight and to the side and you can still use it. It adds a bonus to it that you can use it as a two point convertible. Attached File Here's a photo of Danny Dietz with the makeshift carabiner and fabric that he uses. You can see if he lets it go it acts more of a weight bearing and it sits to the strong side ready to shoot but he can still talk, fast rope, and climb doing this setup. It's very effective from what I've seen. Attached File There's a thing called a Chalker Sling, that comes as a separate unit that I found to act just as good as the Danny Dietz makeshift way. You can use one that is a bit more professional but as I said it requires that you have a weight bearing vest which is annoying but this method is probably the best one. It has a heavy duty hook that can go on the CQD plate or any other plate even a QD one as you can put it on the swivel. Attached File Chalker is somewhat well known. He's a former SEAL Team 6 member and I read his book. I think he gotten more well known due to his time as an advisor for movies. For example, his Chalker Sling is actually featured in the movie End of Days with Arnold where at the end of the movie Arnold gears up for the final battle with the sling in place. Other times he was featured in CNN using the sling as well. He looked too old to be active duty at that time though so I think it was some sort of contractor promo. Keep in mind these guys brought the fight against a sizable enemy. So it would appear to be something that is "combat proven" and not just silly forum stuff. |
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Originally Posted By dalle0001: I did have a fascination with single point slings after reading the Lone Survivor book back in the day. I studied very closely with two people on the team mainly Lt Murphy and Danny Dietz, if I remember their names correctly. Murphy had a CQD plate with a blackhawk (I think at that time the sling itself was made by CQD and not blackhawk). It included a bungee and some HK style hooks. What I noticed is the hooks could be used as a convertible where you put the one hook on the CQD plate, then you put the other hook into the little hole. From my understanding this was a innovation back from the early MP5 days where you can have a convertable sling from one point to two point. Though studying it closely it appears LT Murphy uses the two loops on the plate with each of the hooks which works as well. I believe the bungee is the best method where it can keep it tight to your body and acts more of a "side" where it goes more towards your strong side and it can be really high up. This way it is ready to shoot. The other interesting one I've seen would be from Danny Dietz who appears to use a makeshift boat/heavy duty carabiner and using some lines to tie to the carbineer and the endplate of the CQD plate. One thing interesting is that he uses it similar to Lt Murphy where he would have it more towards the side of his strong arm, and keeping the stock closer to his shoulders. It acts more of a weight bearing than it did as a single point sling. I tried it out myself and it works very well. You can keep the rifle just as you would as a two point sling but you needed to wear a weight bearing vest for it to be effective and needed to have it close to your body. Otherwise it would be hitting you in the nuts repeatedly. I found the CQD sling to be best as you can adjust it to where it is very tight against your body and you can use it as a single point sling that is closer to your shoulders. Some samples: Lt Murphy with the CQD sling (I think before it was made by blackhawk) and you can see he keeps it more to the side and very tight against his body. This is the best method with the bungee cord as it keeps it tight and to the side and you can still use it. It adds a bonus to it that you can use it as a two point convertible. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/365562/ltmurphy_png-3797546.JPG Here's a photo of Danny Dietz with the makeshift carabiner and fabric that he uses. You can see if he lets it go it acts more of a weight bearing and it sits to the strong side ready to shoot but he can still talk, fast rope, and climb doing this setup. It's very effective from what I've seen. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/365562/dannydietz_png-3797548.JPG There's a thing called a Chalker Sling, that comes as a separate unit that I found to act just as good as the Danny Dietz makeshift way. You can use one that is a bit more professional but as I said it requires that you have a weight bearing vest which is annoying but this method is probably the best one. It has a heavy duty hook that can go on the CQD plate or any other plate even a QD one as you can put it on the swivel. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/365562/chalker_sling_png-3797550.JPG Chalker is somewhat well known. He's a former SEAL Team 6 member and I read his book. I think he gotten more well known due to his time as an advisor for movies. For example, his Chalker Sling is actually featured in the movie End of Days with Arnold where at the end of the movie Arnold gears up for the final battle with the sling in place. Other times he was featured in CNN using the sling as well. He looked too old to be active duty at that time though so I think it was some sort of contractor promo. Keep in mind these guys brought the fight against a sizable enemy. So it would appear to be something that is "combat proven" and not just silly forum stuff. That was damn near 20 years ago though. |
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Originally Posted By GlockPride: If you use them on really short guns like a small smg they can be okay to good. Anything longer and you hate your nuts, especially when/if you’re running. This! Used it while in and out of vehicles in Iraq. Worked fine unless you run or have to walk more than 50 meters. |
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| I've got something similar to that one that attaches to the plate carrier. Not sure where it is at the moment to check but I want to say it was called a wolf sling or something goofy like that; black webbing that connected it to your gear and there was a strap with buckle that connected to another that wrapped around the M4 buttstock. It's not very long, I don't think you could switch shoulders without unclipping it. It's still in the bag somewhere amongst my extra unloved junk. |
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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Yeah...single points were pretty popular back in 2008 or so, I saw and even used one when I was in Iraq then. That was damn near 20 years ago though. Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By dalle0001: I did have a fascination with single point slings after reading the Lone Survivor book back in the day. I studied very closely with two people on the team mainly Lt Murphy and Danny Dietz, if I remember their names correctly. Murphy had a CQD plate with a blackhawk (I think at that time the sling itself was made by CQD and not blackhawk). It included a bungee and some HK style hooks. What I noticed is the hooks could be used as a convertible where you put the one hook on the CQD plate, then you put the other hook into the little hole. From my understanding this was a innovation back from the early MP5 days where you can have a convertable sling from one point to two point. Though studying it closely it appears LT Murphy uses the two loops on the plate with each of the hooks which works as well. I believe the bungee is the best method where it can keep it tight to your body and acts more of a "side" where it goes more towards your strong side and it can be really high up. This way it is ready to shoot. The other interesting one I've seen would be from Danny Dietz who appears to use a makeshift boat/heavy duty carabiner and using some lines to tie to the carbineer and the endplate of the CQD plate. One thing interesting is that he uses it similar to Lt Murphy where he would have it more towards the side of his strong arm, and keeping the stock closer to his shoulders. It acts more of a weight bearing than it did as a single point sling. I tried it out myself and it works very well. You can keep the rifle just as you would as a two point sling but you needed to wear a weight bearing vest for it to be effective and needed to have it close to your body. Otherwise it would be hitting you in the nuts repeatedly. I found the CQD sling to be best as you can adjust it to where it is very tight against your body and you can use it as a single point sling that is closer to your shoulders. Some samples: Lt Murphy with the CQD sling (I think before it was made by blackhawk) and you can see he keeps it more to the side and very tight against his body. This is the best method with the bungee cord as it keeps it tight and to the side and you can still use it. It adds a bonus to it that you can use it as a two point convertible. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/365562/ltmurphy_png-3797546.JPG Here's a photo of Danny Dietz with the makeshift carabiner and fabric that he uses. You can see if he lets it go it acts more of a weight bearing and it sits to the strong side ready to shoot but he can still talk, fast rope, and climb doing this setup. It's very effective from what I've seen. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/365562/dannydietz_png-3797548.JPG There's a thing called a Chalker Sling, that comes as a separate unit that I found to act just as good as the Danny Dietz makeshift way. You can use one that is a bit more professional but as I said it requires that you have a weight bearing vest which is annoying but this method is probably the best one. It has a heavy duty hook that can go on the CQD plate or any other plate even a QD one as you can put it on the swivel. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/365562/chalker_sling_png-3797550.JPG Chalker is somewhat well known. He's a former SEAL Team 6 member and I read his book. I think he gotten more well known due to his time as an advisor for movies. For example, his Chalker Sling is actually featured in the movie End of Days with Arnold where at the end of the movie Arnold gears up for the final battle with the sling in place. Other times he was featured in CNN using the sling as well. He looked too old to be active duty at that time though so I think it was some sort of contractor promo. Keep in mind these guys brought the fight against a sizable enemy. So it would appear to be something that is "combat proven" and not just silly forum stuff. That was damn near 20 years ago though. Yeah my Cousin was a coastie in the late 90’s. He showed me his setup, webbing looped into the right shoulder of his LBV. Male QD buckle at the end to mate up with the female end that was attached to butt of his M4. It was pretty high speed back in the day. |
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Originally Posted By jollyg83: Yeah my Cousin was a coastie in the late 90's. He showed me his setup, webbing looped into the right shoulder of his LBV. Male QD buckle at the end to mate up with the female end that was attached to butt of his M4. It was pretty high speed back in the day. |
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Originally Posted By JoeDevola: Then do it. Most of us hate 'em. ETA: and before you ask, the pros & cons of various sling setups have been discussed ad nauseam here and elsewhere. Search, and ye shall find. Have you ever really tried the search function? |
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Originally Posted By JoeDevola: Then do it. Most of us hate 'em. ETA: and before you ask, the pros & cons of various sling setups have been discussed ad nauseam here and elsewhere. Search, and ye shall find. Originally Posted By D_Man: I don't think about them at all. Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Used them in the past. Much like 3 point slings, they offer no benefits over modern 2 points and come with significant downsides. No-go for me when slings like Ferro and ESD exist. |
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Originally Posted By CATM: ^This. I tried a single point for a bit in the military, and I liked it until we were running transition drills and every time I dropped the rifle to draw my pistol, my rifle would whack me in the junk. I went to two-point after that and never looked back. That's why you don't drop it. You use the left hand on the handguard to guide it to the left of your body while your right hand goes for the pistol. Both hands magically get back together in the middle to form your grip at the same time. Works great for short barreled rifles and SMGs. MS4 allows you to go 2 point and cinch it tighter to your body when you need to use both hands. |
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Originally Posted By GlockPride: If you use them on really short guns like a small smg they can be okay to good. Anything longer and you hate your nuts, especially when/if you’re running. For me, AR pistols or something similar. |
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"Chalker is somewhat well known. He's a former SEAL Team 6 member and I read his book. I think he gotten more well known due to his time as an advisor for movies. For example, his Chalker Sling is actually featured in the movie End of Days with Arnold where at the end of the movie Arnold gears up for the final battle with the sling in place. Other times he was featured in CNN using the sling as well. He looked too old to be active duty at that time though so I think it was some sort of contractor promo." The actual OG Chalker sling had its own harness that the sling attachment point clipped into, IE: the P90's on SG1. Here is a pic of Dennis with his original sling. https://jerseytactical.com/products/chalker-sling-2nd-generation |
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Originally Posted By GlockPride: If you use them on really short guns like a small smg they can be okay to good. Anything longer and you hate your nuts, especially when/if you’re running. This. Single points hate testicles. |
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For a carbine or a full sized AR/AK, a single-point pretty much is only good when doing vehicular work (especially in a passenger vehicle). For general, all-around use, you cannot beat a 2 point sling. PDW/SMG/AR pistol...you can get away with a single point, but, it still has its limitations vs a 2 point sing. 3 point slings? Forget about those. My first 'tactical' slings were single point and even though I know they were not really doing me justice, I clung to them for some time. I finally saw the light, converted to 2 point, and have not looked back. |
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Originally Posted By JoeDevola: Then do it. Most of us hate 'em. ETA: and before you ask, the pros & cons of various sling setups have been discussed ad nauseam here and elsewhere. Search, and ye shall find. Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Used them in the past. Much like 3 point slings, they offer no benefits over modern 2 points and come with significant downsides. No-go for me when slings like Ferro and ESD exist. Originally Posted By GlockPride: If you use them on really short guns like a small smg they can be okay to good. Anything longer and you hate your nuts, especially when/if you’re running. All of this. Tried them, hated them on all but my MP5K-N. |
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| I only use single points on my 10.5. If I need it out of the way, I just loop the sling around the VFG or mag, and it'll sit vertically against my chest or at an angle on my left side. Works great, and comes off fast with a single QD ring on the buffer tube lock plate. |
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Originally Posted By EnablerNo1: Great for allowing a long gun to hit you in the nuts. Attached File |
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